Mazda sticks with rotary power

[Leonidae@MFT]

Any RX-model should come with manual.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

300hp, 8,000rpm redline, 50/50 weight distribution & < 2600lbs w/ 6 speed manual. How those specifics are achieved, I don't really care.

In a dream world, it would be an n/a 2 rotor with a torque-filling hybrid system with good regen. However...I've not yet seen a hybrid attached to a manual gearbox...

 

[Grandea GTR]

However...I've not yet seen a hybrid attached to a manual gearbox...

Universally? There's the CR-Z.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Universally? There's the CR-Z.

Ah, I felt like I was forgetting one.

 

[NoizeboyMugen]

Probably a little late to the party but speedhunters did an article on the announcement of the car and there's a very cool little tidbit at the end. It reads "There’s no mention of what engine might power the concept, but with Mazda confirming that a classic rotary Cosmo Sport 110S – a model than turns 50 in 2017 by the way – will be on display, it's hard not to get just a little bit excited..." Me thinks the rotary is back in business

 

[CodeRedR51]

Probably a little late to the party but speedhunters did an article on the announcement of the car and there's a very cool little tidbit at the end. It reads "There’s no mention of what engine might power the concept, but with Mazda confirming that a classic rotary Cosmo Sport 110S – a model than turns 50 in 2017 by the way – will be on display, it's hard not to get just a little bit excited..." Me thinks the rotary is back in business

I mentioned that on the last page.

 

[NoizeboyMugen]

I mentioned that on the last page.

Whoops Soooooo everyone should just ignore that post I made lol Carry on

 

[el fayce]

http://jalopnik.com/that-mysterious...t-might-just-hav-1736908069?rev=1445001988537

 

[CodeRedR51]

http://jalopnik.com/that-mysterious...t-might-just-hav-1736908069?rev=1445001988537

Ah yes, the Jalopnik comment section. Everyone thinks they're a comedian.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

Ah yes, the Jalopnik comment section. Everyone thinks they're a comedian.

That's what happens when there's a Comment of the Day award.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

I really hope that, stylistically, it's a rwd coupe form of the Mazda6/3.

Idealistically, I'd love for it to be a rotary. But even a 2.5 skyactiv with either a hybrid system or a turbo would be great.

 

[Robin]

Totally looks like an Aston Martin creation from those shots, they need to 'Mazda it up'.

 

[CodeRedR51]

I wouldn't look to much into those renderings since they are not official.

 

[05XR8]

Mazda may come up with a totally new design language with this coupe..

 

[Frenzyhero]

edit

 

[20832]

Mazda may come up with a totally new design language with this coupe..

Doubt it, or rather I hope they'll wont change from their design language. Their entire line up is far ahead in terms of design, I really like 'em.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Maybe this is totally irrelevant, but Mazda published this patent two days after releasing the coupe teaser image.

Control device for engine equipped with turbo-supercharger

edit: it's probably unrelated. Looks more to be a refinement of the existing variable geometry turbo system used in the current skyactiv-d engine.

 

[05XR8]

Doubt it, or rather I hope they'll wont change from their design language. Their entire line up is far ahead in terms of design, I really like 'em.

By the time this coupe arrives, the kodo design will be 4+ years old. The RX-8/CX-7/M6/M3(BL & BK) designs lasted about 6 years. It's going to look old if it uses the kodo.

 

[RACECAR]

I've completely lost track of this, when are Mazda unveiling this coupe?

That's what happens when there's a Comment of the Day award.

So there is actually something worst then the "Top Comments" Section on Youtube.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

I've completely lost track of this, when are Mazda unveiling this coupe?

@ Tokyo Motor Show which begins October 29th.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Live reveal tomorrow at 7:30 eastern, 4:30 pac.

Tick, tock, tick...tock

http://insidemazda.mazdausa.com/mazda-news/mazda-new-sports-car-concept/

 

[Rallywagon]

I am waiting with bated breath on this announcement/showing. I really hope it's a rotary, but last I heard, there wasn't supposed to be another rotary unveiling until 2017 and a release until 2020.
Now, the real question, what market is this going to be competing in? Mazda already has the MX5 for the small, inexpensive sports car segment. The very same the RX7 used to fill until the arrival of the FD. So I doubt we will get a reborn FB/SA. That would mean it will most likely compete in the bigger sports coupe market, with the likes of mustangs, camaros and the alike. If this is the market, them you can forget it being N/A. Even being a 1.6 liter, you are not likely to see 300+ HP, which will be mandatory to compete even against the bottom tier of stang or camaro. At least not street drivable by the masses. Mazda could try offsetting that with some trick hybrid tech, but I'm not sure how that will stack up. Ultimately, if they are planning on releasing a rotary this decade, to compete in that market, it will need 300+HP, and that will require boost.
I certainly don't see them building a new rotary to replace or compete against the MX5.

 

[SPhilli911]

I dunno how trustworthy Jalopnik articles are, but it seems like this will in fact be a rotary.

-http://jalopnik.com/mazda-confirms-their-sports-car-concept-will-have-a-new-1738916061

 

[CodeRedR51]

I dunno how trustworthy Jalopnik articles are, but it seems like this will in fact be a rotary.

-http://jalopnik.com/mazda-confirms-their-sports-car-concept-will-have-a-new-1738916061

Confirmed in this article as well.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/391915/...as-brand-confirms-rotary-engine-in-the-works/

Mazda has confirmed that it will bring back the rotary engine in the “not too distant future” as it sets to unveil a rotary concept at tomorrow’s Tokyo motor show, as we predicted a few months ago.

Speaking to the media at a pre-motor show event in Tokyo tonight, the company’s global head of R&D Kiyoshi Fujiwara said that having a rotary powertrain was “synonymous with strengthening and maintaining the Mazda brand”.

Just like challenging the standard convention of improving on conventional internal combustion engines with SkyActiv technology, Fujiwara says the same principles of “never stop challenging” are applied to making rotary powertrains a possibility in the modern age.

.................

Details or specifications for the rotary engine, or whether it will be coupled to an electric drive or other assistant technologies are yet to be confirmed, however Fujiwara promised that “some day in not to distant future, the rotary engine will return and it will be called SkyActiv R”.

Edit: It lives! If they produce this car, I will wait for it and buy one if it is indeed in the rumored $40k range. Even if I have to eat noodles for the rest of my life.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

If they build it...whatever it takes....I will own it. That's the most gorgeous concept car I've seen in a decade.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Since the photos I posted won't load, I'll just give my impressions instead.


HOLY HELL.

 

[Petros-XL]

It looks amazing!

 

[-Fred-]

Oh look, Mazda built a better Aston-Martin than Aston itself. Gorgeous.

Although from the rear and the side it's very, very Italian in design... must be the red.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

I cannot believe how beautiful it is. Mazda, thank you. Thank you. I can't wait for more details on the Skyactiv-R.

edit: I see a lot of first-gen rx-7 in the profile. Awesome.

edit2: I also loooove how they managed to incorporate a subtle nod to the flip up headlights of the RX-7 with the kind of eye-lids.

 

[Niku Driver HC]

Sorry to barge in here out of nowhere, but I really need to get in on this conversation, because here are some of the pictures from the press release that Mazda has uploaded to their website (in glorious HD);

This isn't a car that Mazda can do, this is a car they need to do. It's everything that a modern RX needs; the elegance, the agressiveness, the sheer beauty and brand image. If there's any way to design a vessel for the rotary Mazda to be reborn, this is it. Mazda wants to challenge the world again? I am all for it, without a shadow of a doubt. Regardless of how long it may take for the Skyactive-R engine to be perfected, this RX-Vision should not be left as a mere concept, it should greet the road.

Oh look, Mazda built a better Aston-Martin than Aston itself. Gorgeous.

Although from the rear and the side it's very, very Italian in design... must be the red.

Couldn't have said it better myself, honestly. It's interesting that while Aston is struggling to refresh their own image, Mazda swoops in and shows how to do so without straying too far from Aston's image, ironically enough.

And yes, the red may have something to do with the Italian-esque looks. Then again, it has become Mazda's trademark color over the past two years, so...