Mission 34 - Mercedes Mclaren SLR at Nurburgring

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I gave it a shot again gor S&G's.

Still fell over 10 seconds from winning.

It was the first time that I had tried in a while so I wasn't to disappointed at the results. I'm sure that if I had the time, I might be able to knock a couple seconds off the time.

So at what point can you cut across the lawn and make up time? And where can you ride the wall to do likewise? usually any time I attempt to do that I end up losing time.
 
All the walllrides and grasscuts I know about do not add up to 10 seconds. So it sounds like you have a bit more work to do. Do a google search on "Mission 34" and you may see some U-tube videos to get some ideas on going faster. Good luck! I like to see people thrash the computer AI, and I hope you do it, too!
 
PARAGON GT
I gave it a shot again gor S&G's.

Still fell over 10 seconds from winning.

It was the first time that I had tried in a while so I wasn't to disappointed at the results. I'm sure that if I had the time, I might be able to knock a couple seconds off the time.

So at what point can you cut across the lawn and make up time? And where can you ride the wall to do likewise? usually any time I attempt to do that I end up losing time.
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https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=92023
Link to AMG track maps.

The grass cuts you can use:
1) Just before Hatzenbach (about 3 or 4 corners in)
2) Ardenaur Forst (just before T3)
3) The right hander just before the pits.

The wall ride that is the safest:
1) At the Karussel (in between T6 & T7)


As mentioned though these would not make up 10 seconds, however if done well they could save you approx 5 - 7 seconds
 
PARAGON GT
I gave it a shot again gor S&G's.

Still fell over 10 seconds from winning.

It was the first time that I had tried in a while so I wasn't to disappointed at the results. I'm sure that if I had the time, I might be able to knock a couple seconds off the time.

So at what point can you cut across the lawn and make up time? And where can you ride the wall to do likewise? usually any time I attempt to do that I end up losing time.
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I cut early in those first few turns just before the first uphill straight section (sorry, dont know the name of the section) and then i cut again thru Aremburg (i think that's what it's called). Just straight up the hill, cross over the road, and crank the steering right as i drive onto the grass again. You'll be sliding sideways in the last part of Aremburg Forst while preparing to re-introduce yourself to the tarmac. :scared:

All told, this shaves several seconds of my time. Closest i've got to the gullwing now is about 2.7 seconds :mad: I mean, i'm at the point now that i'm REALLY GOOD at most of the course, but towards the end as i'm passing the 2nd-to-last car, i get all excited and things go wrong. :banghead: ARRRGH. but i'll know i'll do it. Maybe tomorrow. :indiff:

RoadHazzard
Just wanted to show the after-effects of M34... This was after around 4 days of trying...

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DualShock2 FTMFW!!!!!ONEonE111!!iiiII

Have A Great Drive, and Good Luck!!
RoadHazzard
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Yeah. This is exactly why i resorted to grass-cutting. I've literally lost sensation in portions of both thumbs...it's as tho the nerve-endings in there are on vacation or something. :grumpy:
 
Ugh . . . Another night lost to this mission. (That included practice runs too)

My lack of love for Mercedes grows a little more everytime I run this mission.
 
PARAGON GT
Ugh . . . Another night lost to this mission. (That included practice runs too)

My lack of love for Mercedes grows a little more everytime I run this mission.
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I'm actually not hating the mission at all...i'm at the point where i strart to really dig getting all those corners just right. But i'm also really wanting to be DONE. :grumpy:
 
I can see that I'm going to have to become "Best Friends" with this car before I will be able to beat this event.

I managed to cut my time down to 5 seconds last night, so with more lovin' I should be able to beat Mighty Mission 34.

I'm just going to have to take the car trough a few serieses in order to get comfortable with it.

Anyone have an idea what the aids are set like for the test? Mine are set at 2,2,2 and feel close.
 
PARAGON GT
I can see that I'm going to have to become "Best Friends" with this car before I will be able to beat this event.
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That's what i had to do sort of....stop hating and start loving the car & mission (or at least tolerating it).
I managed to cut my time down to 5 seconds last night, so with more lovin' I should be able to beat Mighty Mission 34.

I'm just going to have to take the car trough a few serieses in order to get comfortable with it.

Anyone have an idea what the aids are set like for the test? Mine are set at 2,2,2 and feel close.
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I tried 1 and then switched to 2. But i think they may be set at default (5) for the mission. It's hard to tell. The mission car behaves different than a practice car you get from the dealer--it enters & exits corners different, no matter what TCS settings you use.

ASM is not on at all in the test in my opinion.
 
Somewhere in this mammoth thread it said the aids were TCS 1 or 2, no ASM. I don't know for sure about the TCS but I can say with confidence that ASM is shut off.
 
Yeah i read that too. I tried driving with tCS set on both 1 and 2, and the result is that the traction control lite only flickers in comparison to the way the Mission car's TCS goes. In other words, the mission car's TCS gets activated more often, and stays on for longer intervals; but it doesn't seem to upset speed much.

I could be wrong, of course. That's just my theory.
 
I set my driving aids to 3,1,2 and it seemed fairly close to the mission car. With just the TCS set to 2 I was swinging out the cars read a lot more than the mission car. These felt close to me.

I gave it a pretty good shot this weekend. ran my SLR through a couple series, ran the first race in Schwarzwald Liga B countless times in order to matter myself in the car.

I managed to drop my time from over 10 seconds to 2 seconds. I probably would have won if I hadn't tapped the wall and gotten a 5 second penalty. After that I started making stupid mistakes so I just shut it down for a while. I feel like I might get it this week.
 
PARAGON GT
I set my driving aids to 3,1,2 and it seemed fairly close to the mission car. With just the TCS set to 2 I was swinging out the cars read a lot more than the mission car. These felt close to me.

I gave it a pretty good shot this weekend. ran my SLR through a couple series, ran the first race in Schwarzwald Liga B countless times in order to matter myself in the car.

I managed to drop my time from over 10 seconds to 2 seconds. I probably would have won if I hadn't tapped the wall and gotten a 5 second penalty. After that I started making stupid mistakes so I just shut it down for a while. I feel like I might get it this week.
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Yup. that's exactly what i did...a near-perfect lap till the end..when i got into the grass just before the pits. :mad: I didn't get a penalty, but i did tap the wall and wound up 2.7 seconds behind the gullwing. :banghead:

others have made a final grass-cut in this area..if i get frustrated enough, i may, too.
 
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Parnelli Bone
. . . others have made a final grass-cut in this area..if i get frustrated enough, i may, too.
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That's what I was going to attempt, I just cut way to early and went sideways and airborne . . . crushing the side of the car into the wall.

I tried a couple times after that only to make some dumb mistake and ended up spinning out, so I shut it down for the night.

While running a practice session I can get around 7:07.xxx on a lap. Would that be good enough to beat 34? I should I press for lower?
 
PARAGON GT
That's what I was going to attempt, I just cut way to early and went sideways and airborne . . . crushing the side of the car into the wall.

I tried a couple times after that only to make some dumb mistake and ended up spinning out, so I shut it down for the night.

While running a practice session I can get around 7:07.xxx on a lap. Would that be good enough to beat 34? I should I press for lower?
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I don't know. Some have said 7:07 is good enough. Others say you have to go lower (someone in the very beginning of the thread said you aren't good enough till you're down to like 7:01, which freaked me out! :scared:)

So far, my best lap (empty track) has been 7:04-ish. I can consistently make 7:06 to 7:08 though, with lower times a bit of a fluke every now and then.
 
Yeah . . . 7:07 is my fastest at the ring with an empty track.

Guess I'll have to camp out more in the SLR till I can lower that time.

Driving one car sucks . . . I want to drive so many others in my garage right now, but my main focus is beating 34 . . . And I said that I was only going to use the SLR untill I beat it. Then . . . um . . . who knows.
 
Ok . . . This is special enough to excuse me from adding this to my past post.

I DID IT!!!!!
:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

In what I would consider to be one of the most horrendous laps I have done at that track . . . I managed to beat Mission 34 by a whopping . . .

0.033

So to celebrate here are 34 "I DID IT!!!!!"'s

I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! I DID IT!!!!! (That's 34 including the 2 from above!!!)

Now that its 3:00 am, I'm going to retire for the night. More details later if I make it into work on time.
 
Congrats...

...although

The R89C isn't worth the effort...

But I'll complete this mission eventually...(probably last thing I'll do in GT4 XD)
 
Popeye, Dotini and RzB: Thank you for the congratulations.
You’re probably right, the R89C probably wasn’t worth the effort, but the effort was worth the victory.

Being honest, out of all the times I have attempted to beat this mission, Last nights circumstances were the least ideal.

I was having trouble getting to sleep last night because I pulled a muscle in my neck while taking down two 10’x20’ tents that we used for a party last weekend. Any time I would move in bed, I would receive a shooting pain that would wake me up instantly. So around 2am I figured I would get up, take a couple aspirin, and play a little GT4 until they “kicked in”.

As it was loading I do remember thinking,” . . . wouldn’t it be funny if I beat 34 tonight?”
So it loaded up and I went to the European hall in my black SLR and ran the first race in Schwarzwald League B, which I ran a horrible race, and still won.

Then I decided it was time to go to the Mission Hall for another couple shots at 34.
I retired shortly after starting my first attempt after being bounced off the track from clipping a rumble strip very early on. My second attempt was a little better, but was ended after receiving a 5 second penalty.

It was on my third attempt last night that I beat it. Most of the details of that lap are a little fuzzy because I was very tired by that point. (Close to 3:00am) I can tell you that there were several times I contemplated restarting because of mistakes I made, I spent a lot of time on the grass, I was airborne on more than one occasion and I made a major mistake that almost cost me right at the very end.

As I was making the final turn before the finish line, I turned in way to early and clipped the pit guard rail sending me through the cones and deep into the grassy area to the left of the pits. I mashed the throttle and tried to keep the car from smacking the wall on my left while watching the 300 SL a head of me accelerating to the finish line. Barely missing the wall I hit the concrete at the end of the grass the car lunged forward and I began to close the gap on the final car. I pulled along side him and briefly thought about trying to run him into the guard rail, but at that point we had both crossed the finish line.

As the finish time popped up, I was so tired that I had no comprehension that I had won. I looked at the split time and as it faded out, I realized it was in blue, not red. When the finish order popped up, it became clearer that I had won, and I dropped my controller into my lap. My hands started shaking, and I started to giggle a little bit. I stopped the replay, saved the replay and backed out of the mission hall praying that the system wouldn’t lock up before I could save it. I went back to my garage and saved my game. (Twice just to be sure.) Then I headed off to bed. I can’t recall my split times or lap time, the only number that stayed with me was the finish split.

When I watch the replay again, I’ll write out the split times, and my final lap time for everyone, and give a better explanation of my lap.

And now I can go back tuning (LMP, class C etc.) cars to improve the longevity on the track for endurance races.
 
Cool. I"m glad you did it, PARAGON GT. It gives me hope.

ISn't that how it usually happens? You do a run that seems sloppy to you, but that run winds up being the one that gets you what you want? :lol:

PErsonally, i could care less about any prize cars. I just want the cred. I just wanna say "i did it!" Maybe tonite...
 
That's a great story. Many more should be told. Perhaps it's an uplifting moment in an individual's life when he can score such a rare victory and share it with the community that's rooting him, and for all us mere humans, to drive like Nuvolari at the Nurburgring, with a touch of magic.
 
Dotini
That's a great story. Many more should be told. Perhaps it's an uplifting moment in an individual's life when he can score such a rare victory and share it with the community that's rooting him, and for all us mere humans, to drive like Nuvolari at the Nurburgring, with a touch of magic.
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With as elegant and dramatic as it may have sounded, after watching the replay today after getting out of work, it looked more like a drunk monkey got a hold of a set of keys to a very expensive car, and went for a ride. . .:crazy:

I was surprised how often I was hanging one side of the car in the grass, how many turns I over shot and drifted through the grass, and in general how much time I spent carving up the lawn in that attempt. I have had cleaner, more in control laps where I finished 5 seconds or farther behind.

Parnelli Bone: with the lap time average that you have told me earlier, I'm sure that 34 will be yours soon. And like you, I did it so I could say that I was able to do it. Same reason I did the 24 hours @ Sarth in A-Spec. 👍

Ok . . . as promised, here are the numbers from my race:

My finish time was 9:13.280 making my actual lap time somewhere around 7:10.280 taking away the 2:03 that they make you wait at the starting line.

I think it was on page 2 of this thread that I found someones split times that I used to judge my lap as I was going along. Below are my times in the brackets, and my comparison time next to it.

My split times were as follows:
T01 - (-1:49.491) - -1:50.3
T02 - (-1:41.388) - -1:43.3
T03 - (-1:31.158) - -1:34.1
T04 - (-1:20.651) - -1.21.3
T05 - (-1:08.320) - -1:07.4
T06 - (-0:57.061) - -0:55.8
T07 - (-0:40.250) - -0:40.0
T08 - (-0:32.088) - -0:31.1
T09 - (-0:25.737) - -0:25.5
T10 - (-0:14.703) - -0:14.2
T11 - (-0:06.462) - -0:05.8
FIN - (+0:00.033) - -0:00.7

Also, earlier last evening I watched this to see what corners I should even attempt to cut:

And that's about all I can really tell you beyond the story above. I'm going to take off and try out that lovely final prize car that they award you.

Thanks for all the congratulations guys. That was my largest hurdle that I still had to face in completing the game.:cheers::cheers::cool:

*edit* - In lieu of winning, I will admit that I have found a new appreciation for the SLR . . . so much so that I have decided not to sell my second practice car as I had intended to do if I had ever beat #34. (The first one was sold out of frusteration since I couldn't slap on a set of dirt tires and drive it off the edge of the Grand Canyon!) So it will remain as 1 of 7 Benzes that will allowed to take residence in my garage. (4 race cars and 3 street cars).
 
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Okay now it's my turn.

I DID IT!!!!!!!!!!

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woo hooo! If i can do it , so can YOU!!!:cheers:
 
Aremburgkerve
Awesome Parnelli! I knew you could! 👍 👍 👍
Even more of an achievment on the NTSC version, so double awesome! :sly: Great work, now you can brag and boast as much as you want. :) You've finally joined us in the promised land! ;)

Joe
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Naw..i'm not gonna brag or boast...that's not my style. I'd rather teach, matter of fact. Hell, i might write a guide for M34....where all hte braking zones are (i was using all the chalk-words on the ground for most of my braking points). I'm sure someone else has written one here, but i haven't seen it as of yet. I could write a really good one if i learn all the names of different areas of the track. :)

I feel really good, tho. I feel like i just had sex or something! Or got a job i really wanted. This calls for a smoke! :lol:
 

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