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[ozwheels]

Staff voted to push Monza back. This really isn't a big deal. Let it go and Practice on Brands hatch

This is a big deal because I know for a fact that the staff didn't decide anything. It was brought up a driver and then without any thought it was then a rule. When will the changes stop?

 

[STALLIONO]

This is a big deal because I know for a fact that the staff didn't decide anything. It was brought up a driver and then without any thought it was then a rule. When will the changes stop?

Was a Staff vote. I didn't change it alone. I want to Race Monza. The Staff thought it would be best to push it back. No other changes are happening Relax

 

[kie25]

Yes I am surprised there are trust issues. I've never been in a series where people have to worry about people cutting chicanes, that's really pathetic.



Second, why do we have an OP? Why not just mix everything up in a hat and pick settings out week by week, so far that's what we've done.

What happen to having 3 people in charge and that's it?

What would you prefer keep monza then deal with people accusing people off cheating and dealing with aftermath or prevent that situation and race it after when patch is out the race is still going ahead just after patch what is the big deal I'm baffled by people's reaction to preventing arguments it's very strange. We now have a track that can't be cut in place and then after patch we can race monza with no accusations being thrown around. It is the best way to do it and the organisers have made the correct decision, instead people complaining people should just go play the game it's more fun trust me, we have plenty time for brands tuning so no big deal.

 

[STALLIONO]

What would you prefer keep monza then deal with people accusing people off cheating and dealing with aftermath or prevent that situation and race it after when patch is out the race is still going ahead just after patch what is the big deal I'm baffled by people's reaction to preventing arguments it's very strange. We now have a track that can't be cut in place and then after patch we can race monza with no accusations being thrown around. It is the best way to do it and the organisers have made the correct decision, instead people complaining people should just go play the game it's more fun trust me, we have plenty time for brands tuning so no big deal.

Look guys.. I didn't rule to push back Monza. If guys are cheating to cut the Chicanes. They should be Racing in the SEries. They should be giving a Solo point Penalty. I'm all in favor to bring Monza back for the 12th.. The changes out of no where. We took out Pitting because of the Crying. This Drama needs to stop. At least one of you complains about this Game. Please complain in the Pcars Forums not here. I really don't see the need tp push back Monza. If you guys can not trust each other. Then just with draw.. The Cheating word i'm getting sick of hearing it..

I made up my mind. I'm over ruling and we will be racing at Monza on July 12th. No more talks about people cutting the Chicanes. No more of the "C" word anymore. If some don't like Monza being next. You make up your own minds and what you want to do. Monza on July 12th.. End of Discussion Period

 

[Zakspeed_TV]

Im out in, you have no back bone to run this series.

 

[STALLIONO]

Im out in, you have no back bone to run this series.

okay zak.. You don't get your way

 

[MrMattAdz]

okay zak.. You don't get your way

Lol you changed it because other people didn't get their way!

You said it yourself it was a staff decision, not sure how Oz knows it wasn't a staff decision because he's not on the staff list.

 

[Spooky Wooky]

I'm quitting my team, I'll still be driving the Z4 but it will be a different livery as an independant. I'm doing this for ethical reasons.

 

[kie25]

Yes mate I'm not racing in a league that wants corner cutting allowed and can't stick by rules monza was 2nd August before now you have gone back. You deal with the accusations as I won't be involved it's stupid, you moan about people complaining but your setting it up for accusations instead doing the clear thing and racing it after patch. People talk about trust when the organiser deliberately put a pro driver in for himself who is am driver? I don't know most you guys that well but it hardly rings trust. And what penalty does he get for trying to pull that off? Ow yes no penalty as it's 1 rule for him and a totally different one for others, I'd say trying to get a pro to race in your place as a am is worse than cutting a corner but everyone in here is trustworthy funny.

 

[STALLIONO]

Okay.. Most want Monza and others don't. Some will complain about Monza being moved down. Others will complain about Racing Monza in 2 weeks. It's hard to make everyone happy about certain things. Pms after Pms.. Like i said tough to make everyone happy. I don't want people cutting chicanes. I don't want you all leaving. It is a new game. Hopefully will be patched too 100 % soon.

If you guys leave after the final word is said. Nothing i can do. I'm not the one to blame about bugs. I'm just getting annoyed with bug after bug. Trying build this series up, but the bugs are getting in the way. Just frustating that's all. Please say.

Brands Hatch on July 12th..

 

[Zakspeed_TV]

Oh and also @STALLIONO was trying to move people around so he could get im my team
As he said his "TEAM MATES" was a waste of space.

I have all evidence 👍

 

[STALLIONO]

Oh and also @STALLIONO was trying to move people around so he could get im my team
As he said his "TEAM MATES" was a waste of space.

I have all evidence 👍

Look this goes out to everyone. I know i said monza on the 12th. Monza won't be raced till August 2nd. Changes aren't being made. Just to give the patch more time to patch up monza. No one is to blame here.. One word for the blame and that's the bugs. Just gets annoying hearing about them.

 

[Spooky Wooky]

Yeah, I said to someone at the time Stalliono is trying to wangle it so he's in the strongest team. I have no confidence in the honesty of the series owner and his inability to make a decision balanced on facts and probabilities.

This Monza, no Brands, no Monza, no Brands is a perfect example.

 

[MrMattAdz]

Yes I am surprised there are trust issues. I've never been in a series where people have to worry about people cutting chicanes, that's really pathetic.

If you want to talk about trust issues you were saying last night in the party chat that you thought that some of your competitors were using an unrealistic setup that allowed them to go faster than what should be possible.

 

[Zakspeed_TV]

If you want to tall about trust issues you were saying last night in the party chat that you thought that some of your competitors were using an unrealistic setup that allowed them to go faster than what should be possible.

pmsl

 

[MrMattAdz]

It's why he asked kie how fast he was going on the straight at monza, he thought that because other people in the bmw were going faster than him on the straights at Road america that they must have some exploit in the tune.

 

[kie25]

If you want to tall about trust issues you were saying last night in the party chat that you thought that some of your competitors were using an unrealistic setup that allowed them to go faster than what should be possible.[/QUO

Funny as on Driveclub where no tuning was allowed I clearly remember winning 27 out 30 Evolution studios challenges must been luck.

 

[STALLIONO]

Okay guys lets take this to the Pitch. We have a week off. Lets get 9 other Fifa Players and play a Season. Enough with it all. we're fighting, but most isn't our fault it's the game with the Bugs. No Real, Barca and Bayern. Pick from a head and you pick your Team in the order who's in..

 

[ozwheels]

If you want to talk about trust issues you were saying last night in the party chat that you thought that some of your competitors were using an unrealistic setup that allowed them to go faster than what should be possible.

Yea I said that and I meant it and I still mean it.

 

[MrMattAdz]

Yea I said that and I meant it and I still mean it.

Right, but you do realise that makes you a hypocrite?

 

[TheLordDobber]

i know better than most how hard it can be to run a championship since in the past ive run championships in GT5, GT6 and Project Cars for a brief spell before RL got in the way. You can only blame the game for so much, yes some of the penalty boundaries arent correct and yes there is some other bugs but on the other hand you can show some trust to people in regards to cutting corners as ive personally not seen any going on from drivers or from the highlight videos other drivers have posted and if people do prove to cheat then simply punish them harshly for doing so.

The main problems from my point of view are that:

1) theres no consistency as the rules/setup keeps changing, for example today ive had to read 3 pages just to find out what track (atm) we are racing on the 12th
2) there seems to be double standards in that some people seem to be able to bend the rules to their benefit where others cant

Im on the verge of leaving and the only things that are stopping me are that the racing has been good and i have 2 good team mates which can only keep me for so long. Im not asking for rule changes but that things once set in place need a lot of input to get changed and not just cause 2 people arent happy out of 45 racers.

 

[ozwheels]

Funny as on Driveclub where no tuning was allowed I clearly remember winning 27 out 30 Evolution studios challenges must been luck.

So how do you explain a 2-3 mph difference if were both running zero downforce and low ride height?

 

[STALLIONO]

i know better than most how hard it can be to run a championship since in the past ive run championships in GT5, GT6 and Project Cars for a brief spell before RL got in the way. You can only blame the game for so much, yes some of the penalty boundaries arent correct and yes there is some other bugs but on the other hand you can show some trust to people in regards to cutting corners as ive personally not seen any going on from drivers or from the highlight videos other drivers have posted and if people do prove to cheat then simply punish them harshly for doing so.

The main problems from my point of view are that:

1) theres no consistency as the rules/setup keeps changing, for example today ive had to read 3 pages just to find out what track (atm) we are racing on the 12th
2) there seems to be double standards in that some people seem to be able to bend the rules to their benefit where others cant

Im on the verge of leaving and the only things that are stopping me are that the racing has been good and i have 2 good team mates which can only keep me for so long. Im not asking for rule changes but that things once set in place need a lot of input to get changed and not just cause 2 people arent happy out of 45 racers.

I can not keep you here. I'd like for you to stay. We're racing at Brands Hatch GP July 12th at 2pm est. No, settings aren't being changed. Everything is the same. Sometimes the bugs in game drive people nuts. As well from me as well. Trying to give everyone a good Series. Just when someone mentions a bug in game. It drives me up the wall.

Again no Settings are changing. The only think changing is the Track. Monza will be Raced on August 2nd. To better help with cutting the chicanes on Monza. Hopefully the Patch clears things up just that much more. Season 1 is a test Series due to the games bugs. I'm hoping near the end of Season 1, we'll have a better polished PCars. Small changes is because of the game. Not because we rather Race at Brands Hatch. I love Monza and it'll be in the schedule. I'd like for these arguments to be over with the Track change. The Staff has agreed to change Monza to August 2nd. Lets keep it clean for now on..

 

[Zakspeed_TV]

So how do you explain a 2-3 mph difference if were both running zero downforce and low ride height?

Work it out for yourself oz, it's what tuning is all about !

 

[ozwheels]

Work it out for yourself oz, it's what tuning is all about !

I'm all about tuning. Having tricks that abuse loopholes is totally different. It's not very fun knowing your at a disadvantage because someone knows a trick.

 

[Zakspeed_TV]

I'm all about tuning. Having tricks that abuse loopholes is totally different. It's not very fun knowing your at a disadvantage because someone knows a trick.

There is NO trick tune it's just good tuning, just because someones car is faster it don't mean its a trick tune!
Its just set-up better.


EDIT: you disappoint me oz i thought you was better than this.

 

[Spooky Wooky]

What trick/loophole has been abused?

I knew it... ALIENS!

 

[STALLIONO]

There is NO trick tune it's just good tuning, just because someones car is faster it don't mean its a trick tune!
Its just set-up better.

I need a loophole for Brands Hatch

 

[Zakspeed_TV]

I need a loophole for Brands Hatch

Sorry im out mate. I will just do the leaderboards from now on, less drama although you still get called a cheat by clueless people.

 

[diesel97]

I'm all about tuning. Having tricks that abuse loopholes is totally different. It's not very fun knowing your at a disadvantage because someone knows a trick.

I thought everyone had the same tools to tune