Mon 20:00-21:30 UK time - PC2 - Hosted by @IfAndOr - Please refer to new threadPS4

[Sick Cylinder]

Well done to Andreas for keeping Lancer at bay, both had good pace.

Unfortunately I couldn't save the race, I wanted to see how I managed to thread my car through that first lap pile up on the mountain. The walls are very close up there! After that incident, since I couldn't catch the two up front, I just ran around pretty much by myself for the rest of the race while trying to avoid those walls.

The new modified start procedure seemed to work quite well. Although I don't think everyone read the memo. (Might need to repeat it on the PSN messages)


Right, now I've got to sort out what I'm in and where we're at for next week.

Hi IfAndOr - You are in the Ferrari number 21 for the first 5 rounds then in the number 2 Ford. Rounds 1 and 2 are at Daytona Road - Round 1 is a race from day into night and Round 2 a race from night into day.

The thread has been updated with the content for the new series, but I will repeat the Car assignment and Driver Number sheets below.

Let me know if you have any queries.

Anyone reading this who wants to sign up we have 2 vacant slots - 1 in each team - just leave a message below!

 

[IfAndOr]

Hi IfAndOr - You are in the Ferrari number 21 for the first 5 rounds then in the number 2 Ford. Rounds 1 and 2 are at Daytona Road - Round 1 is a race from day into night and Round 2 a race from night into day.

Okay thanks. That will save me looking it up. I'll get some practice in. Daytona is great at night.

 

[Harsk100]

Hi IfAndOr - You are in the Ferrari number 21 for the first 5 rounds then in the number 2 Ford. Rounds 1 and 2 are at Daytona Road - Round 1 is a race from day into night and Round 2 a race from night into day.

The thread has been updated with the content for the new series, but I will repeat the Car assignment and Driver Number sheets below.

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Let me know if you have any queries.

Anyone reading this who wants to sign up we have 2 vacant slots - 1 in each team - just leave a message below!

Hello Sick, I know that I'm on Ferrari, but which racing number (#) do I use for Rounds #1 to #3?

 

[John Wells]

 

[John Wells]

Are you okay driving the new cars Harsk?

 

[IfAndOr]

Hi @Harsk100. If I'm reading Sick's charts correctly I think you are in the black (with stripes) Mustang for week 1 and then the #25 Ferrari for weeks 2, 3 & 4. Then back to the Mustang for week 5.


@Sick Cylinder. Taking a look at your charts, I was never quite sure of my Pro rating but I seem to have been elevated to Pro+ without winning anything! I should retire now while I'm at the pinnacle of my career.

The 330P is nice to drive. Generally. On the banking at Daytona it makes my poor gear driven G29 rattle like crazy! I'll have to hang on to the wheel.

 

[John Wells]

How do I set races for practice, so racing against all the cars?

 

[Sick Cylinder]

How do I set races for practice, so racing against all the cars?

Select multi-class and select Vintage Prototype B and Road G - you can then practise in either the Ford MK4, Ferrari 330 P4 or Ford Mustang.

Road G unfortunately is one of SMS's bad decisions as it contains a ridiculous mix of cars - spoilt by the inclusion of a modern pickup truck and a modern sports car - I wish they would split Road G into modern (Road G) and Historic (Road H) which would contain the Mustang, Escort and BMW. At the moment Road G is a bit of a dogs breakfast!

 

[John Wells]

Thanks Sick try that later:tup:

 

[Sick Cylinder]

Guys - I have created a new format to show the cars by driver and round, which hopefully is less confusing. Find your name in the left hand column then read the table from the right hand side, starting at Round 1. Note - I have moved @IAMDOODLEBUG up into the "Pro" group based on his speed last Wednesday - this means that we now have 2 vacancies for Am drivers.

Not long till Monday, but no practise for me tomorrow as I will be at Brands Hatch attending the AMOC (Aston Martin Owners Club) meeting - always great value historic racing featuring cars by Aston Martin (obviously) plus Jaguar, Porsche, Ferrari and sometimes Maserati and Lister as well.

Recommended reading - the following is a great book, currently available from just 1p secondhand from Amazon.co.uk - I really enjoyed reading my copy and I'm tempted to read it again. It tells the story of the Ford v Ferrari battle in 1966 and explains how the battle came about and why the winning of Le Mans came to mean so much to Henry Ford. You all should read it if you can!

 

[IBZ6L20VT]

Not long till Monday, but no practise for me tomorrow as I will be at Brands Hatch attending the AMOC (Aston Martin Owners Club) meeting - always great value historic racing featuring cars by Aston Martin (obviously) plus Jaguar, Porsche, Ferrari and sometimes Maserati and Lister as well.

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Are you an AM owner?

Anyway, back to business. I did a quick practice to record a video for Monday’s race.

I hope it’s useful despite the short publishing time before the race.

The lap is set with heavy clouds at 7pm with the Ferrari 330 P4.

For future races, you can suggest a different car.

 

[John Wells]

No practice for me too, was away all weekend British Touring Cars Croft. So had go in the Mustang before I went.

Here's track history, maps and videos.

http://www.racingcircuits.info/north-america/usa/daytona.html#.WzCxK9JKipo

 

[Napalm_LT]

Today is Mrs. Napalm birthday, so I don't know if the "ceremony" will finish before race starts.

 

[Sick Cylinder]

For future races, you can suggest a different car.

Thanks for the lap - I noticed you did a 1 minute 50 and I had guessed that would be a possible lap time for the fast guys. Would it be possible to post a lap in the Ford MK4? I find the Ford very tricky, which is probably accurate as the 7 litre cast iron engine was very heavy and endowed it with more speed, but inferior handling to the Ferrari.

Today and next week I am using a Mustang and I am lapping about 30 seconds slower so will keep to the outside on the banking to allow easy passing for the prototypes. @John Wells - I am finding the bus stop chicane difficult in the Mustang and find I have to brake extra early - very easy to lose control!

Are you an AM owner?

Sadly not, but if I was, I would have this one in my collection! (spotted in the paddock at Brands on Saturday). This is the most collectible of all Astons and was built to take on the Ferrari 250 GT on the track. They raced at Le Mans in 1961 and 1962, but were not as successful as the Ferraris - first time I have seen one up close - they look much better irl than in photos - cameras seem to spoil the proportions!

 

[IfAndOr]

Just wondering, are we going for a "normal" start or, since it's on the Daytona banking, a rolling one?

 

[IBZ6L20VT]

Thanks for the lap - I noticed you did a 1 minute 50 and I had guessed that would be a possible lap time for the fast guys. Would it be possible to post a lap in the Ford MK4? I find the Ford very tricky, which is probably accurate as the 7 litre cast iron engine was very heavy and endowed it with more speed, but inferior handling to the Ferrari.

Today and next week I am using a Mustang and I am lapping about 30 seconds slower so will keep to the outside on the banking to allow easy passing for the prototypes. @John Wells - I am finding the bus stop chicane difficult in the Mustang and find I have to brake extra early - very easy to lose control!



Sadly not, but if I was, I would have this one in my collection! (spotted in the paddock at Brands on Saturday). This is the most collectible of all Astons and was built to take on the Ferrari 250 GT on the track. They raced at Le Mans in 1961 and 1962, but were not as successful as the Ferraris - first time I have seen one up close - they look much better irl than in photos - cameras seem to spoil the proportions!

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That’s one of the most beautiful cars ever made. Period. I was lucky enough to visit a very good private collection and he had one of these, in metallic burgundy. I am in love since then.

I’ll post pictures when at home.

 

[John Wells]

Thanks Sick will try that out later, just had few laps, seems okay though.👍

 

[Sick Cylinder]

Just wondering, are we going for a "normal" start or, since it's on the Daytona banking, a rolling one?

Thanks If - It will have to be a rolling start as it is Daytona otherwise there could be carnage!

Note Everyone: Rolling Start tonight!

Some more pictures of my favourite cars from Saturday:

Above the 1951 Allard J2 took second on the grid and third in the race (1950's Sports and GT's). Driver said the rear tyres overheated so in qualifying he had to alternate between fast and slow laps to give the tyres time to cool down. Hinged at the centre front axle causes constantly changing camber and steering becomes very heavy - line has to be selected on corner entry as steering virtually locks up - very tricky at Paddock Hill Bend!

This car was beaten by the five litre smaller 1959 Turner Sports of Steve Watton - known as "The Gurney Special" - named after Gurney's Farm not ace driver Dan Gurney!

Second place was taken by the 1958 MGA Twin Cam.

 

[IfAndOr]

there could be carnage!

It used to be in GT.

Maybe it's better in Pcars. Probably best not to experiment on the day though!

 

[IBZ6L20VT]

Sadly not, but if I was, I would have this one in my collection! (spotted in the paddock at Brands on Saturday). This is the most collectible of all Astons and was built to take on the Ferrari 250 GT on the track. They raced at Le Mans in 1961 and 1962, but were not as successful as the Ferraris - first time I have seen one up close - they look much better irl than in photos - cameras seem to spoil the proportions!

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It's curious to spot the small differences between models (forget about those horrid headlights at the bottom of the front bumper...)...

Being a Zagato model, it could be a tailored spec (roof?) or just some later modifications (maybe racing?)

In any case it was just stunning.

 

[Harsk100]

I don't think that I will make to the race today: I'm watching the World Cup.

 

[Sick Cylinder]

I don't think that I will make to the race today: I'm watching the World Cup.

What's the World Cup?

 

[Napalm_LT]

World champiochip (football) I guess

 

[IAMDOODLEBUG]

Hi @Sick Cylinder! Am I able to participate in the Wednesday event rather than Mondays? Apologies for not logging on until now, it has been a hectic weekend and busy start to the working week! Got stuck on a delayed train back from Waterloo today

 

[Harsk100]

What's the World Cup?

It's FIFA World Cup Football. The match has ended later than usual, so I couldn't make it. I will make up to it on Wednesday's race, ok?

 

[AndreasR]

Results from Daytona (first half)

 

[Sick Cylinder]

It's curious to spot the small differences between models (forget about those horrid headlights at the bottom of the front bumper...)...

Being a Zagato model, it could be a tailored spec (roof?) or just some later modifications (maybe racing?)

The cars made for Le Mans had a slightly lower roof. Some cars are high end recreations using a modified DB4 GT as a base. If the original car is beyond economic restoration an alternative is to make a Zagato copy like the Ferrari 250 saloons which are made into 250 GTO's. Even a copy is still valuable and desirable - I think the one in your photos is a recreation.

Hi @Sick Cylinder! Am I able to participate in the Wednesday event rather than Mondays?

Yes definitely, but we have spaces in the Monday event so it would be great if you could race in that as well! Maybe occasional appearances as a Reserve Driver on Monday's?

Below: Points Table - note I have changed the scoring of the Mustang entrants (originally they were due to get 3 x their actual score, but with the current low attendance that would be too high).

 

[Napalm_LT]

Weather shouldn't be Heavy/Medium/Light cloud/Clear in this race?

I don't have replay - can someone check what I did wrong, because I got DT penalty at start again. I kept speed under 120 km/h, accelerated on green, but got DT penalty anyway.

 

[IBZ6L20VT]

Weather shouldn't be Heavy/Medium/Light cloud/Clear in this race?

I don't have replay - can someone check what I did wrong, because I got DT penalty at start again. I kept speed under 120 km/h, accelerated on green, but got DT penalty anyway.

I didn’t watch the replay but it happened to me that you need to wait until crossing the start line to go over 120km/h, even if the light is green.

 

[IBZ6L20VT]

The cars made for Le Mans had a slightly lower roof. Some cars are high end recreations using a modified DB4 GT as a base. If the original car is beyond economic restoration an alternative is to make a Zagato copy like the Ferrari 250 saloons which are made into 250 GTO's. Even a copy is still valuable and desirable - I think the one in your photos is a recreation

Your knowledge never stops to amaze me.

It could easily have been a replica of a Zagato. He owned a nice mix of over a 100 cars with some real rarities, but mainly focused on Group B Rally cars. He had a couple of other replicas, of a GT40 and a E-Type lightweight.

As far as I know, his whole car collection has been now sold to a private American collector.