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SRT4Real
Hey man I really like SRT-4s but there are a couple 4 bangers that you left out. The 4G63 and the SR20 have been putting out some serious numbers on stock internals for a long time now.
Most Unrealistic car in GT4 ...
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Hey man I really like SRT-4s but there are a couple 4 bangers that you left out. The 4G63 and the SR20 have been putting out some serious numbers on stock internals for a long time now.
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TipTronic
If this is going to be a 4cyl war or something, Dont forget the SVO, A little (expensive at the time) remarkable machine Ford did a really nice job of making that 2.3 a tank.
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- JDA1982
Hey SRT4Real, how do you get that much Bhp without touching the engine? I wouldn't have though that was possible. Anyway I guess since the SRT4 is so cheap in terms of what you get for your cash in the US it's not a bad buy, but if it ever did come out over here it would be around 20k, maybe a similar price to a Golf GTi but that would make it almost as expensive as a second hand Tuscan and more expensive than second hand Elises (last generation) and second hand S2000's. Different countries though, different prices. Whats a good buy in one isn't as good in another, but cars that we think are good buys arn't as well priced compared to other cars in other places. Anyway, it's ahard comparison since there is no price for it here.
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live4speed
He is not counting the turbo as part of the engine. There are a few bolt on turbo kits that will give you over 400hp with a starting price ~$4000.
When I traded my SRT I was looking for a rwd car and the only cars under $20K in the area (South Carolina) were to old (RX-7, Supra...) to get a loan from a bank or the insurance killed it. You can get C5 vettes for 20K but the insurance was triple what the Neon was.
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All the BMW's seem disappointing to me, for obvious reasons 
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Its crazy the Pontiac GTO and Holden Monaro have the same engine IRL, but the GTO is the only one that sounds vaguely like a V8 in the game. The Monaro sounds like a whizzy Japanese car. Pretty idiotic as they could've just used the GTO's sound (although thats not right either)...
krott5333
Ding!
Here is my vote for most Unrealistic Car, I think it takes the cake.
The newest Subaru Impreza WRX STi Spec C.
Fully Tuned it pushes just over 500 Hp, with Nitrous that is 600 Hp....it will somehow completely defy the laws of physics themselves and run a high 7 second 1/4 mile.
I'm sorry, I love Subaru's, and think they are awesome cars, but no way in hell will a car weighing quite a bit over 1000 Kilograms, pushing 600 Hp tops, run a 7...I don't care how unrealistically sticky the tires are in GT4...it is not physically possible.
For Comparison, I looked online and found another AWD car that runs low 8's...it's a Skyline, totally stripped interior, rollcage, thoroughly worked over engine, with Nissans variable split AWD system, which last I checked was better than Subies for 1/4 miles.
It runs an 8.1 or so with 1300 Hp.
Fission Mailed, PD.
Same with the RX-7...stock it is pretty well spot on.
I got one, the Type R Spirit A, and with a $75,000 budget available (including the car cost) I managed to run a sub 7 minute Nurburgring.
So Apparently, changing the tires and clutch in an RX-7 is enough to make it as fast as a Ford GT and a stock BMW M3 GTR Racecar.
The M3 GTR Racecar (when you swap to R1 tires) runs accurate as hell lap times...the German cars were all quite accurate to real life when you moved them two tire grades down.
Just the American cars are worse than they should be, and the Japanese cars are better than they should be.
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Onikaze
Question.
Is that because the car is unrealisic or because the modding of the car is unrealistic? Would you say that the spec C in its stock config is realistic?
I've seen some really weird effects when modding a car. Seems that modding is a fairly generic affair and doesn't take into account whether the generic changes to the base car would be realistic.
My vote goes to the Dodge Ram.
I like how you guys are pointing at RL modified drag cars to decide what's realistic. Drag cars are drag cars. They're nothing like road racing cars. The mods you do are totally different... very often even opposite from eachother.
A drag car doesn't have to turn, obviously. But less obviously, it doesn't have to sustain its performance for an extended period. That's a BIG DEAL. There's a lot you can do when you only have to do it for a few seconds.
GT really isn't a drag racing simulator. That seems to be all that you guys are sayin.
And I buy that. It's definately not a drag racing simulator.
S2000 8:39
350Z 8:26
Boxter 2.7L 8:36
Z4 3.0 8:32
e46 M3 8:22
EVO VII 8:25
Corvette C5 8:18
Isn't 8:18 faster than 8:39?
Their test vette was a base model C5, not the faster Z06 version, btw. Z06 is considerably faster.
Sorry. I race vettes in RL, so I had to speak up for my cause. Those S2000's are indeed very tough in the twisties. Cool cars! But they're not actually in the same class as the vettes (literally. They race in a lower class).
Those 'super neons' are very capable cars on the track in RL. Anyone that actually runs on the track will have respect for those cars (as opposed to people that just drive around on the street and think they know fast). Dodge knows how to race.
I think it's hilarious at this one grocery store... a whole bunch of ricers hang out there, and they actually look down their noses at me when I park there to pick up some groceries. I have a C4 vette, which apparently has little 'street cred' with them. Ha ha. They actually assume their rice cars are faster. Idiots.
Nope. I don't have neon lights under the car. No nitrous. No wings. Nor do I have spinners. Nor is my car a Type R. All I have is this championship trophy from a real sanctioning body. So I guess I'm not fast...
Heh heh... I love watching these guys burn through all their nitrous trying to keep up with my normally aspirated car... And they're always amazed when I blow their doors off. They're like 'WTF?' And I'm like... 'Duh. It's a corvette. Hello. Earth to retard!'
Now this isn't to say that Japanese cars are incapable or something. There are serious racers that bring these cars to the track, and they do quite well. But that's very different than the so called 'street racer' crowd. The serious japanese car racers are the real deal, not posers like the guys who only ever stop light race.
I love watchin the STI's at the track.. they're pretty cool.
- Skant
A drag car doesn't have to turn, obviously. But less obviously, it doesn't have to sustain its performance for an extended period. That's a BIG DEAL. There's a lot you can do when you only have to do it for a few seconds.
GT really isn't a drag racing simulator. That seems to be all that you guys are sayin.
And I buy that. It's definately not a drag racing simulator.That looks like the time reported by Sports Auto magazine.
S2000 8:39
350Z 8:26
Boxter 2.7L 8:36
Z4 3.0 8:32
e46 M3 8:22
EVO VII 8:25
Corvette C5 8:18
Isn't 8:18 faster than 8:39?
Their test vette was a base model C5, not the faster Z06 version, btw. Z06 is considerably faster.
Sorry. I race vettes in RL, so I had to speak up for my cause. Those S2000's are indeed very tough in the twisties. Cool cars! But they're not actually in the same class as the vettes (literally. They race in a lower class).
I love it how you guys trash on the neon. To you, it's all about the image that each marketting department has built up for their cars. Has nothing to do with how fast the cars actually are.
Those 'super neons' are very capable cars on the track in RL. Anyone that actually runs on the track will have respect for those cars (as opposed to people that just drive around on the street and think they know fast). Dodge knows how to race.
I think it's hilarious at this one grocery store... a whole bunch of ricers hang out there, and they actually look down their noses at me when I park there to pick up some groceries. I have a C4 vette, which apparently has little 'street cred' with them. Ha ha. They actually assume their rice cars are faster. Idiots.
Nope. I don't have neon lights under the car. No nitrous. No wings. Nor do I have spinners. Nor is my car a Type R. All I have is this championship trophy from a real sanctioning body. So I guess I'm not fast...
Heh heh... I love watching these guys burn through all their nitrous trying to keep up with my normally aspirated car... And they're always amazed when I blow their doors off. They're like 'WTF?' And I'm like... 'Duh. It's a corvette. Hello. Earth to retard!'
Now this isn't to say that Japanese cars are incapable or something. There are serious racers that bring these cars to the track, and they do quite well. But that's very different than the so called 'street racer' crowd. The serious japanese car racers are the real deal, not posers like the guys who only ever stop light race.
I love watchin the STI's at the track.. they're pretty cool.
- Skant
driverst24
Let's take an example to figure out if this is possible or not. The 1494cc V6 Honda F1 engine was making 742kW in qualification configuration. This is about 1000hp, this gives over 669hp/L. In race configuration the engine was making "only" 502kW which is about 452hp/L. These numbers give an idea of what top notch turbo charged race engines can do.
420hp out of a 3 liters engine is 140hp/L, that is 0.3 times what the Honda engine was making which seems reasonnable. It's less than what a stock F40 was making, and less than what a stock Porsche 959 was making. So to me it seems very possible to get that power out of this engine. Hey my R5 Turbo 2 was making 160hp out of an 1397cc engine ! It was rather easy to get 250 hp out of that engine (179hp/L !!!) and at this level of power it was an extremely reliable engine, so 420 out of a 3 liters engine should be fairly easy to get.
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Jetboys427
Other than the hp numbers, it might be very realistic. Although beause of the way the car seems to be glued to the road you would think it's very unrealistic(and most likely is), since nobody here has driven it, we can't really say too much about it and other group C cars.
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misnbluI've got a video of a twin turbo setup GNX with both turbos sticking out of the hood.
It was dynoes at over 1000hp to the wheels and had so much torque that it spun tires on the dyno while getting up to speed.
Too bad I lost the link to the video, I'd post it here. It's truly awesome and awe inspiring hearing it spool up both turbos.
Misnblu
I have that same vid....900hp isnt too far of a stretch
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I think every car in this game is unrealistic and sad! I was driving a lotus the other day (on gt4 of course) and it wiped out around a corner at 45mph. SORRY, a REAL Lotus would never do that!
In fact, I drive a pimped honda civic, (in real life) and I can take sharp corners at 50+ without leaving the road.
If it wasn't for B-Spec, I wouldn't even bother with this hyped up game......Finished GT3 with NO B-Spec.
Hey, at least the cars look cool, even though they ALL handle like......
One last thing. The "black" race cars are TOTALLY useless, so if you don't have them, don't bother! 👎
In fact, I drive a pimped honda civic, (in real life) and I can take sharp corners at 50+ without leaving the road.
If it wasn't for B-Spec, I wouldn't even bother with this hyped up game......Finished GT3 with NO B-Spec.
Hey, at least the cars look cool, even though they ALL handle like......
One last thing. The "black" race cars are TOTALLY useless, so if you don't have them, don't bother! 👎
driverst24
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Ive just got a question to be answered, and was wondering if anyone has noticed this.
The HP of the cars wen you open your garage is actually more then wen you click on the individual car, sometimes by extrordinary amounts. How could GT have not seen this?
This realy peaved me off, because i would sometimes use GT to gain information about certain cars rather then just looking them up on the internet, but now im starting to wonder how accurate the info is.
The HP of the cars wen you open your garage is actually more then wen you click on the individual car, sometimes by extrordinary amounts. How could GT have not seen this?
This realy peaved me off, because i would sometimes use GT to gain information about certain cars rather then just looking them up on the internet, but now im starting to wonder how accurate the info is.
!!The Minolta never won a race, last I checked.
Yet it is virtually unbeatable in GT4.
The Audi R8 has been dominating everything, yet it is mediocre compared to certain japanese endorsed cars (Playstation Pescarolo) which would lead me to believe that a lot of Japanese cars are more favorably represented in game than IRL.
Yet it is virtually unbeatable in GT4.
The Audi R8 has been dominating everything, yet it is mediocre compared to certain japanese endorsed cars (Playstation Pescarolo) which would lead me to believe that a lot of Japanese cars are more favorably represented in game than IRL.
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R5Turbo2
Some of the forced induction 1.5 litre F1 engines were making considerably more than 1000bhp in quali trim. BMW's engine was rated at about 1400bhp. I remember in an issue of evo, Gerhard Berger said you could spin the rear wheels in fifth gear in the dry in the turbo cars. The R92CP would also make about 1200bhp in qualifying trim in real life.
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i found the acceleration of a Ford Ka makes kinda strange, since i admit it is slow, but not as slow as it is in the game, i had to put some serious modifications to get the same 0-100 time as in real life (+- 15s) and a ford ka can easily reach up to 160 which is still very slow, but in gt4 it tops out at 125 or something.
the steering and suspension is on the other hand quite realistic.
And the amount of power a BMW M3 (modified) makes is totally wrong, there are in scandinavia etc some M3's who make around 700 bhp.
and all the cars do tend to understeer to much.
the steering and suspension is on the other hand quite realistic.
And the amount of power a BMW M3 (modified) makes is totally wrong, there are in scandinavia etc some M3's who make around 700 bhp.
and all the cars do tend to understeer to much.
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Hahahahaha. That's funny man. How can you handle such a wild car!? Oh, and I'm sorry you don't know how to drive in GT4 either, but just because you have no skills doesn't mean it's completely unrealistic. I've found that a vast majority of the cars drive very much as they do in real life. At least the ones I've compared to their real life counterparts (Z06, GTO, FF carsF1Lover666
, etc). And if you think all the cars in the game drive the same, maybe you should try turning TCS and ASM off and try again 💡 And whoever said a ford ka runs 160mph IRL in stock form needs to lay off the crazy pills
I can see 0-100meters in 15s though Maybe 0-100kph too. Certainly not 0-100mph though, that equates to a low 14/high13s quarter 
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JTSnooksHahahahaha. That's funny man. How can you handle such a wild car!? Oh, and I'm sorry you don't know how to drive in GT4 either, but just because you have no skills doesn't mean it's completely unrealistic. I've found that a vast majority of the cars drive very much as they do in real life. At least the ones I've compared to their real life counterparts (Z06, GTO, FF cars
And whoever said a ford ka runs 160mph IRL in stock form needs to lay off the crazy pills
I think he meant KPH to be honest.
0-100KPH = 0 - 60MPH.
0-160KPH = 0 - 100MPH.
Incidentally, a Ford Ka will to 0 - 60 in 13.2 seconds, whilst a SportKa will to the same run in the low 11's.
I thought his comments on that were a little funny myself. The game is unrealistic because it's possible to biff a Lotus at only 45mph? Lotuses are great handling cars, but they're still subject to the laws of physics. Any great car will do amazing things in the right hands. But in the wrong hands, all cars do more or less the same.
He mentions the local BMWs in Scandinavia, so I'm thinking his numbers are metric.
There are folks on from all over the world around here, so laying down the units is kinda important.As for complaints that you can't mod some cars out to as much horsepower as some people are getting in RL... I dunno guys. The cars you're listing as examples are _POSITIVELY WILD_ examples of how much power is possible. These folks have gone to great lengths to build that much power... often including parts they've modified or fabricated themselves. they aren't just kits from the factory. And the way I see it, the mods in GT are more like the standard performance kits you can get through your dealer.
As well, most of the examples that have been sited are _DRAG CARS_. They're setup to put down that much power for a few seconds at a time. They'd burn up on a road course in short order.
The remaining examples seem to be FORMULA ONE cars... and I believe that making any sort of comparison with them is unreasonable. F1 shows the limits of what technology can do when it's totally out of control and unrestrained by anything resembling a budget. Plus these cars have zero endurance... they throw everything away and build the car over from scratch again after every event. They have to run X miles. They are designed to fall apart at X+1 miles. They are amazing, but they are totally departed from any other form of racing.
Besides all that... while it is possible to get over 1000hp in these cars... you only think you want that much power on a track.
I've known folks in RL who modified their cars to 600-800hp and then stopped coming to any events. Suddenly, they had a rotating list of excuses. But the real reason was obvious... they underestimated how much power that really was, and now they're afraid to drive the car. As well they should be... with that much power, one tiny mistake can have you confined to a wheel chair for the rest of your life... and it doesn't even have to be your own mistake either, so forget the 'but I never make mistakes' macho factor.
The limits on horsepower in GT4 seem to be right about the point where the cars start to lose their drivability in any real sense. In some of the earlier GTs, they let you build out the horsepower farther, and it just made cars that were silly.
I, for one, don't miss that. The cars are generally more fun with only mild modifications anyway. They all kinda turn into the same car when they're maxed out.
- Skant
