MotoGP 2011 (125, Moto2, and MotoGP)

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Colin Edwards via Facebook
"Thanks to everyone for ur support at this time :( Very sad to see a friend pass in any case. I'm holding up ok mentally, it was a very tragic accident :( Physically, besides a dislocated shoulder & ligaments involved, think both wrists & left heel have fractures too, getting X-rays on Wednesday. I feel sad for the whole MotoGP community right now, my heart is heavy for everyone affected, from family to fans. God speed my friend, u will be missed.

Also it looks like Gresini is going to skip Valencia - if crash.net is to be believed.
 
So Valentino Rossi's manager Davide Brivio strongly said that Valentino will not retire after what has happened last week...

Just as been discussed a page or pages back about his retirement, it might not going to happen next year but since his contract with Ducati ends at the end of 2012, so it's either he extends his contract or retire because in my opinion, I really couldn't see him going anywhere on the grid that suits him best. Just speculating though...
 
Also it looks like Gresini is going to skip Valencia - if crash.net is to be believed.
I wouldn't blame them.

So Valentino Rossi's manager Davide Brivio strongly said that Valentino will not retire after what has happened last week...
I think the talk of instant retirement was unfounded. I wouldn't be surprised if Rossi rides a black bike in Valencia, and/or carries Simoncelli's 58 for one race since they were close. It's what I'd do.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Rossi rides a black bike in Valencia, and/or carries Simoncelli's 58 for one race since they were close. It's what I'd do.

Yeah I think it's a very good idea. But anyway mate, we'll still see something special from other riders in Valencia anyway...

If Honda Gresini really decided not to race in Valencia, I agree with you it's not their fault at all... In fact we all understand how tough for them to lose a rider in a matter of seconds.

Now I'm interested to know what will Sepang do now. I think it's a nice touch if they're going to build a memorial at about that straight after Turn 11...
 
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I know MotoGP usually retire numbers if a rider dies while racing; they did it with Daijiro Kato's number, 74, when he died at Suzuka in 2003. Since nobody else is carrying the number 58 in the lower categories, Simoncelli's number will likely be reitred, too. But I think it would be a nice tribute if Rossi - who never changes his number, even when he is World Champion - carried his friend's number so that Simoncelli's spirit can at least see out the season as Simoncelli himself should have.
 
I think it would be a nice tribute if Rossi - who never changes his number, even when he is World Champion - carried his friend's number so that Simoncelli's spirit can at least see out the season as Simoncelli himself should have.

👍👍👍 Couldn't have said it better
 
The body of MotoGP rider Marco Simoncelli arrived back in Italy on Tuesday following a fatal accident in the Malaysian Grand Prix.

Simoncelli's father, Paolo, and fellow rider Valentino Rossi were aboard the flight that arrived at Rome's Leonardo Da Vinci airport near dawn and they were greeted by Italian Olympic Committee president Giovanni Petrucci.

A public viewing of Simoncelli's body is planned for Wednesday in the city theatre of his hometown, Coriano, with the funeral scheduled for Thursday.
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Simoncelli died of chest, head and neck injuries after he lost control of his Honda on Sunday and swerved across the track, straight into the path of American rider Colin Edwards and Rossi.

Rossi, the seven-time world champion, was a good friend of Simoncelli's.

"Marco was a star and I'll never forget him," said the normally radiant Rossi, who was wearing a black hat and sweatshirt.

"There are a lot of memories that I'll hold onto. We were together everyday, we trained together and racing was our passion. We already knew that this was something that can happen."

Rossi, who is struggling with Ducati this season, dismissed speculation that he might retire in the aftermath of the crash.

"I never said that. It was probably made up just to sell newspapers," Rossi said.

Simoncelli, who was 24, was a rising star in the sport and with his trademark mop of curly hair was beloved by Italy's legions of motorcycle racing fans.

He won the 250cc world title in 2008 and was predicted by many to be a future MotoGP world champion.

Petrucci ordered a minute's silence before all football matches Sunday and players wore black armbands as a tribute to the young rider.

"On Sunday when we held a minute's silence there was a total demonstration of how much this kid was loved," Petrucci said. "We're here to demonstrate the love and affection for this kid."

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Incidentally, Axel Pons is still in a Malaysian hospital after his highside that brought an end to Moto2, being monitored for a sub-cranial hemotoma.

Fausto Gresini has also confirmed withdrawing from Valencia and the testing sessions after the race weekend.
 
So apparently the marshalls dropped Sic when carrying him of the track...

I find this unbelievably stupid,if someone is lying on the track with obviously head and neck trauma,the last thing anyone should do is to go and run with this person on a stretcher with the risk of further injuries.... 👎👎👎

Here is the video...(no worries you wont see close ups from Sic himself...)

http://www.zie.nl/video/sport/Hulpverleners-lieten-Simoncelli-vallen/m1ezxclfic12

spy.
 
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So apparently the marshalls dropped Sic when carrying him of the track...

I find this unbelievably stupid,if someone is lying on the track with obviously head and neck trauma,the last thing anyone should do is to go and run with this person on a stretcher with the risk of further injuries.... 👎👎👎

The guy at the back started it... I mean, if you think again how the marshalls know he had a neck trauma? They were marshalls and not doctors. If I was one of the marshalls I would run too because every single second could still save his life. The fall is a bit sick anyway.

Anyway, there's no point of pointing finger to whose mistake that was and bla bla bla. He's gone mate. Pointing finger to who made it worse isn't going to make him back alive... I understand how the marshalls were feeling that time. Things like this has never happened in Malaysia and hopefully the marshalls learned from this.

Let's just pray for him. The marshalls and doctors did very well to save his life.
 
The guy at the back started it... I mean, if you think again how the marshalls know he had a neck trauma? They were marshalls and not doctors. If I was one of the marshalls I would run too because every single second could still save his life. The fall is a bit sick anyway.

Anyway, there's no point of pointing finger to whose mistake that was and bla bla bla. He's gone mate. Pointing finger to who made it worse isn't going to make him back alive... I understand how the marshalls were feeling that time. Things like this has never happened in Malaysia and hopefully the marshalls learned from this.

Let's just pray for him. The marshalls and doctors did very well to save his life.

Mate,his helmet whas torn off his head...if that doesn't ring a bell about possible neck trauma..well...

They should have been instructed to stabalise him,like they do in F1,and wait for a doctor/car to arrive next to him and so take the most carefull actions how to transport him and not to risk any more injuries!

I am not pointing any fingers at all mate,but was just shocked by what i saw on this video.

Again,if you see how they treat a crashed F1 driver,even if he seems concious and well,maybe the motogp organisation should indeed learn from this to prevent simullar actions in the future.



spy.
 
Mate,his helmet whas torn off his head...if that doesn't ring a bell about possible neck trauma..well...

They should have been instructed to stabalise him,like they do in F1,and wait for a doctor/car to arrive next to him and so take the most carefull actions how to transport him and not to risk any more injuries!

Well, actually you have a point there mate but just maybe, maybe the marshalls didn't get a good training. Just speculating though.

But this one, you are 100% correct. Shouldn't it be better for MotoGP officials to get the Medical Car and Ambulance on the track and treat him there without drastic movement like they do in Formula 1? That could've also saved his life but it's a history now mate... MotoGP definitely needs to learn something from this. Really needs to!
 
I haven't watched the video, but it was a similar think with Tomizawa, where they manhandled him onto a stretcher and then got him off track is a less then gentle manner.

Regardless, an injured rider should be stabilised after a crash. The problem is that that really means tens of paramedics. And given that marshals are usually unpaid volunteers, that is not feasible either - we'd never have enough marshals for an event.

One hopes the review being conducted picks up on this and makes some sort of changes to marshal training though. I dont think their rough handling of him made a difference though, this time anyway. There is a still image of the point of impact in the accident from the front floating around...

Description :Rossi and Edwards made almost simultaneous contact (Edwards on the brakes for a split second longer then Rossi allowed for it), the former contacting the right base of the back of the neck, the latter the small of his back.

No work by the marshals could have made a difference. :(
 
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I agree with both views partially. No, I do not think anyone could have saved him, but also no, they should not move an unconscious driver with no helmet. It's common sense in a road crash not to touch a fallen biker unless trapped or in imminent danger of being hit by traffic.

This is racing at the highest level, the race was stopped and help wouldn't get much faster if he was on the side of the track instead of on the track... If he had "just" a broken neck, they could have killed him right there.

So yes, there is room to improve, even if doing things differently wouldn't save Sic, it may do the next time. Because there will always be a next time, unfortunately.

Officials must review everything about this, watch every video ad-nauseum and if there is one little thing that can be changed for the better, it must.
 
Why couldn't they make it like Formula 1? Hire a specialise doctor, and in case of a crash they will send out the Medical Car like in Formula 1?

In that way, the doctors know more of what to do than the marshalls. They have more kits than what the marshalls have. It needs to be improved, definitely.
 
Yup, that's basically it.

Marshals are dedicated, trained professional, and passionate fans that deserve our unconditional respect (with the exception of the sap that dropped SIC, maybe...). But they are no doctors.

A medical car should stand at the back of the grid as it does in F1, ready to interveen in T1 where havoc is more likely to happen in any race. And be ready to go at any moment. And it's even more cost efficient than in F1... It can be used to cover all 3 categories. 125cc, GP2 and MotoGP. Practice, qualifying and racing, from Thursday to Sunday.

Announcing something along those lines in the next race would the be the best homage MotoGP could make to Simoncelli, and Tomizawa.
 
Just read a coupel days ago that Honda Gresini will race at Valencia in Super Sic's honor. They had been considering whether or not it'd be appropriate to participate. I wonder if they've given any thought as to who will race for them next year...
 
I think I read it's Hiro and Yuki Takahashi for Valencia. Whether or not that means Yuki will ride for them next year I don't know; I hope it does because I like him, but there are plenty of Moto 2 riders who would go well on that bike. My personal favourite would be De Puniet but he may already have a job for next year if someone can enlighten me??
 
They're renaming Misano in Simoncelli's honor. I guess it will be called The Super Sic Circuit. :) http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/95872

In other news, Alvaro Bautista on top after FP2 in a rainy Valencia, Nicky doing very well too:

1. Alvaro Bautista Suzuki 1m47.975s
2. Nicky Hayden Ducati 1m48.316s + 0.341s
3. Randy de Puniet Pramac Ducati 1m48.684s + 0.709s
4. Karel Abraham Cardion Ducati 1m49.021s + 1.046s
5. Cal Crutchlow Tech 3 Yamaha 1m49.350s + 1.375s
6. Andrea Dovizioso Honda 1m49.422s + 1.447s
7. Valentino Rossi Ducati 1m49.613s + 1.638s
8. Casey Stoner Honda 1m49.674s + 1.699s
9. Dani Pedrosa Honda 1m49.820s + 1.845s
10. Josh Hayes Tech 3 Yamaha 1m50.509s + 2.534s
11. Katsuyuki Nakasuga Yamaha 1m51.277s + 3.302s
12. Loris Capirossi Pramac Ducati 1m51.838s + 3.863s
13. Hector Barbera Aspar Ducati 1m51.932s + 3.957s
14. Ben Spies Yamaha 1m52.072s + 4.097s
15. Hiroshi Aoyama Gresini Honda 1m53.286s + 5.311s
16. Toni Elias LCR Honda 1m54.342s + 6.367s
 
Just read a coupel days ago that Honda Gresini will race at Valencia in Super Sic's honor. They had been considering whether or not it'd be appropriate to participate. I wonder if they've given any thought as to who will race for them next year...

Iannone would be a similar mould of rider, but I think he already has a ride lined up.
 
24H - hence double post ok :D

Bradl is world champion due to Marquez withdrawing through injury.

Talk about backing into the world title... though Bradl had a bunch of podiums after Marquez went on a tear I doubt you could find 5 people (outside of Germany) who'd rate him a better rider than Marquez.

And Stoner on pole... no surprises there. I'm almost rooting for Pedrosa to win just to change things up a bit. Almost.
 
I don't have a problem with Bradl winning it actually. He was the class of the field for the first half of the season, then the Suter and Marquez combo overtook the Bradl and Kalex combo. As Bradl as almost no other riders on Kalex machines, he's had to develop the bike himself, unlike Suter who has most of the field providing data.

The GP is going to start with all 3 classes on track together doing a formation lap for Marco too.
 
I feel ashamed. I just got to know that Marc VDS has a Moto2 team other than GT racing. :lol:

Owkey, sooo it looks to be getting a bit wet out there and a couple of riders have just crashed. Takahashi's looked pretty hard too!
 
Yea, Takahashi had a nasty highside whilst in the lead. Looks like he was knocked out cold and then tumbled a long way into the gravel. :(
 
Owkey, sooo it looks to be getting a bit wet out there and a couple of riders have just crashed. Takahashi's looked pretty hard too!

Yeah, I think almost everyone would've liked a Gresini 1-2.

Kallio's doing great now, showing why he is a 250 world champion.
 
Almost wonder if they are waiting for 2/3 to elapse to red flag this one on account of the greasy track. Pasini now has a nasty one down at turn 1.

Takahashi off to the medical centre for a checkup.
 
Almost wonder if they are waiting for 2/3 to elapse to red flag this one on account of the greasy track.

Quite possibly. I saw a couple of raindrops on the 2nd corner... Pasini made a mistake I believe because he touched the painted surface.

I think it looks a lot darker than it was during the 125cc race...
 
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