MotoGP 2011 (125, Moto2, and MotoGP)

[CarolinaBlue704]

Good win for Pedrosa. He showed great patience.

I was disappointed to see Simoncelli go down on the 1st lap...

 

[diptob79]

and Rossi got nailed again by Dovi on the last lap.

I remember the first one was at the opening round of 2010 season

 

[Rossticles]

Pedrosa showed great poise this round. I'm impressed. He's been on form for a championship for a few years now.

More teams are needed in MotoGP especially with 38 entrants in the Moto2 race in Portugal. That's absurd.

 

[Small_Fryz]

I Think Rossi's back!

I hope he can join the title fight with a few solid wins later on in the season.

Was a lovely battle with Pedrosa and Lorenzo

 

[YellowG1]

Three Repsol Hondas out of the top four, for the second time in three races. I have to think this season is a grave disappointment for HRC if neither Pedrosa nor Stoner takes the championship. The bike is two steps ahead of the Yamaha and simply head and shoulders superior to the Ducati.

More teams are needed in MotoGP especially with 38 entrants in the Moto2 race in Portugal. That's absurd.

Agree. I just hope there is a level of parity, because having 15 more bikes that all finish 45-75 seconds off the lead is not really increasing the enjoyment factor. We haven't had a satellite rider win a race in 5 years as is...

 

[adamp93]

Agree. I just hope there is a level of parity, because having 15 more bikes that all finish 45-75 seconds off the lead is not really increasing the enjoyment factor. We haven't had a satellite rider win a race in 5 years as is...

Let me guess that race:
Elias, Portugal???
EDIT: just checked the moto gp site, WOOHOO!! I was right, another point is that his team-mate Melandri also won 3 races that year.

 

[YellowG1]

Let me guess that race:
Elias, Portugal???
EDIT: just checked the moto gp site, WOOHOO!! I was right, another point is that his team-mate Melandri also won 3 races that year.

I thought it was Elias too, and forgot Melandri won a handful of races later in the year with Honda Gresini, I think it was.

 

[PAPPACLART]

Was a great result for Pedrosa. I never used to like the guy, but now everybody hates Lorenzo, and he is the enemy now so was happy to see Pedrosa win. I think Simmoncelli is certainly one to watch. He will likely crash a few more times this year but will also bag some wins. Simoncelli will likely get a factory ride next year with HRC unless someone else snaps him up. Dare I say Simoncelli could be the Rossi replacement as the new Italian Motogp superstar!!

Rossi is not done yet, and I am sure the Ducati will get stronger and we will see at some stage Rossi mixing it up with the front guys.

 

[adamp93]

I think Simmoncelli is certainly one to watch. He will likely crash a few more times this year but will also bag some wins. Simoncelli will likely get a factory ride next year with HRC unless someone else snaps him up. Dare I say Simoncelli could be the Rossi replacement as the new Italian Motogp superstar!!

Simoncelli already has a factory bike because of his HRC contract, it's a factory team he needs.

I thought it was Elias too, and forgot Melandri won a handful of races later in the year with Honda Gresini, I think it was.

Actually the Portugal race was the penultimate round that year, it was the race where Pedrosa crashed into Hayden and seemingly ended Nicky's title challenge until Rossi crashed at Valencia.

 

[PAPPACLART]

Simoncelli already has a factory bike because of his HRC contract, it's a factory team he needs.

I should have clarified, what I meant by "factory Ride" is that he will likely end up on a Repsol Bike.

 

[adamp93]

I should have clarified, what I meant by "factory Ride" is that he will likely end up on a Repsol Bike.

He should do, I think Repsol will try and get rid of Dovi this year, unless they've given him another silly contract that keeps him there for another year

 

[PAPPACLART]

He should do, I think Repsol will try and get rid of Dovi this year, unless they've given him another silly contract that keeps him there for another year

Its a shame, Dovi is good, and I expected more from him this year, but he has 2 very talented teamates so it is more than difficult for him to stand out unless he improves during the course of the season. His last second manouver on Rossi to pip 4th would have done him the world of good in the eyes of HRC but he was still behind Pedrosa and Stoner and this pattern is likely to continue throughout the season to come, perhaps as you said paving the way for Simmo to take his place. Its only a shame for Dovi that his teamates are so strong!

 

[Neal]

They're at Le Mans this weekend and the MotoGP guys have just finished FP1, times below

1 Casey Stoner AUS Repsol Honda Team 1'34.133
2 Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda Team 1'34.431 0.298 / 0.298
3 Andrea Dovizioso ITA Repsol Honda Team 1'34.808 0.675 / 0.377
4 Marco Simoncelli ITA San Carlo Honda Gresini 1'35.029 0.896 / 0.221
5 Jorge Lorenzo SPA Yamaha Factory Racing 1'35.165 1.032 / 0.136
6 Valentino Rossi ITA Ducati Team 1'35.414 1.281 / 0.249
7 Randy De Puniet FRA Pramac Racing Team 1'35.687 1.554 / 0.273
8 Nicky Hayden USA Ducati Team 1'35.721 1.588 / 0.034
9 Cal Crutchlow GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1'35.731 1.598 / 0.010
10 Ben Spies USA Yamaha Factory Racing 1'35.743 1.610 / 0.012
11 Colin Edwards USA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1'35.8711.738 / 0.128
12 Loris Capirossi ITA Pramac Racing Team 1'36.410 2.277 / 0.539
13 Hiroshi Aoyama JPN San Carlo Honda Gresini 1'36.448 2.315 / 0.038
14 Alvaro Bautista SPA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1'36.510 2.377 / 0.062
15 Toni Elias SPA LCR Honda MotoGP 1'36.997 2.864 / 0.487
16 Hector Barbera SPA Mapfre Aspar Team MotoGP 1'37.036 2.903 / 0.039
17 Karel Abraham CZE Cardion AB Motoracing 1'37.154 3.021 / 0.118

 

[YellowG1]

They're at Le Mans this weekend and the MotoGP guys have just finished FP1, times below

1 Casey Stoner AUS Repsol Honda Team 1'34.133
2 Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda Team 1'34.431 0.298 / 0.298
3 Andrea Dovizioso ITA Repsol Honda Team 1'34.808 0.675 / 0.377
4 Marco Simoncelli ITA San Carlo Honda Gresini 1'35.029 0.896 / 0.221
5 Jorge Lorenzo SPA Yamaha Factory Racing 1'35.165 1.032 / 0.136
6 Valentino Rossi ITA Ducati Team 1'35.414 1.281 / 0.249
7 Randy De Puniet FRA Pramac Racing Team 1'35.687 1.554 / 0.273
8 Nicky Hayden USA Ducati Team 1'35.721 1.588 / 0.034
9 Cal Crutchlow GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1'35.731 1.598 / 0.010
10 Ben Spies USA Yamaha Factory Racing 1'35.743 1.610 / 0.012
11 Colin Edwards USA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1'35.8711.738 / 0.128
12 Loris Capirossi ITA Pramac Racing Team 1'36.410 2.277 / 0.539
13 Hiroshi Aoyama JPN San Carlo Honda Gresini 1'36.448 2.315 / 0.038
14 Alvaro Bautista SPA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1'36.510 2.377 / 0.062
15 Toni Elias SPA LCR Honda MotoGP 1'36.997 2.864 / 0.487
16 Hector Barbera SPA Mapfre Aspar Team MotoGP 1'37.036 2.903 / 0.039
17 Karel Abraham CZE Cardion AB Motoracing 1'37.154 3.021 / 0.118

Honda 1-2-3? Did NOT see that coming.

Nicky made some strides in FP2. Yamaha seems to have closed the gap somewhat but still a step behind the Repsol Hondas.

 

[Neal]

4th from Hayden is very impressive, should give Rossi a kick up the arse

 

[F1 fan]

Was a great result for Pedrosa. I never used to like the guy, but now everybody hates Lorenzo, and he is the enemy now

Um... I'm a lorenzo fan.

 

[Hollidog]

Stoner punches De Puniet in warm up

Stoner fined 5000 Euros because De Puniet rode in front of him.

 

[MarinaDiamandis]

Stoner punches De Puniet in warm up

Stoner fined 5000 Euros because De Puniet rode in front of him.

But he still complains about Simoncelli being too aggressive? What a prat.

 

[Hollidog]

Simoncelli seems to get such a bad rap from everyone. I dont know enough about him to judge though..

 

[MarinaDiamandis]

Simoncelli seems to get such a bad rap from everyone. I dont know enough about him to judge though..

I think most know that he is a huge title threat and are a bit peeved about it. Long-haired, lanky, clown boy gonna steal ya title Jorge. Deal with it.

 

[Hollidog]

I think most know that he is a huge title threat and are a bit peeved about it. Long-haired, lanky, clown boy gonna steal ya title Jorge. Deal with it.

His hair is indeed insane. How does he wear a helmet? Maybe he will do what Valentino did and shave it off?

 

[hornet_burnout]

Just read a lot of, well, crap about the Pedrosa Sic incident.

Simoncelli is dangerous (almost everyone)
Simoncelli came out ahead because he's still racing and poor Pedrosa is down (Pedrosa)
Simoncelli shouldn't race until Pedrosa is ok (Lorenzo)

Well, if people could actually see the replay once and look at the beginning of the braking, from when both started to brake and to were they end, "people" would see Simoncelli braked later and gained over one bike length thus being ahead of Pedrosa. Which Despite of him (apparently, IMO) then decides deciding to ease off his brakes to defend the inside. Which was utterly stupid at that point.

Then his bike get unstable and at the very last moment, Pedrosa lifts the bike. Hitting Simoncelli in the back.

I'm sorry but what I saw was the eternal little boy, trying a wrongly timed puny defensive move on a manly, brave and legal racing move from someone with serious ridding skills.

So, man up little boys...
(had to get this one off my chest)


As for Stoner... I said it before... when something even slightly messes with his plans... he can't handle it.

 

[Neal]

I totally agree, Simoncelli shouldn't have been penalised. He was ahead of Pedrosa, on the outside and was having no problems making the turn. In fact he was so in control he didn't get knocked off when Pedrosa hit his back wheel! If Pedrosa was able to make that turn he should have held the inside line and would have then probably come out in front but he was going in too hot and would have run wide anyway.

I was hoping Simoncelli was going to ignore the ride through penalty and deal with the fall out later to keep his rightful place because as it is he will never have the penalty taken back.

 

[adamp93]

Then his bike get unstable and at the very last moment, Pedrosa lifts the bike. Hitting Simoncelli in the back.

As for Stoner... I said it before... when something even slightly messes with his plans... he can't handle it.

Pedrosa just went in a little too hot and picked it up because I think he was going to overshoot the corner, had Marco not been there he wouldn't have made the right hander.
As for Stoner, he was totally out of line in punching Randy and deserves a fine to try and calm him down.

In fact he was so in control he didn't get knocked off when Pedrosa hit his back wheel!

Such is the case every time, in cycling the person behind is always worse off in one of those situations.

 

[ranhammerR34]

Agree with the last 3 statements. While I do feel bad that Pedrosa could be out with another injury, Simo didn't do anything wrong. Why he got a drive-thru is beyond my brain cells and the world feed said he deserved one. WHY? Simoncelli was to me, defending his position. ---- Randy

 

[hornet_burnout]

Pedrosa just went in a little too hot and picked it up because I think he was going to overshoot the corner, had Marco not been there he wouldn't have made the right hander.

Agreed. Not saying he made a mistake picking it up. But it happened as a consequence of his braking error.

Simoncelli was on his "normal" trajectory +1 meter more or less, and Pedrosa couldn't make the turn even he was given half or even the whole track.

 

[CarolinaBlue704]

I thought Simoncelli's drive through penalty was undeserved. It was just a racing incident in my eyes. It's not like Simoncelli came out of nowhere and took out Pedrosa (like Rossi did to Lorenzo at Jerez). Both riders were side-by-side going into the corner. Neither rider wanted to give up the position, that's what ultimately caused the accident. It was not a result of a dirty move.

But it's too bad Pedrosa broke his collarbone.

 

[adamp93]

I thought Simoncelli's drive through penalty was undeserved. It was just a racing incident in my eyes. It's not like Simoncelli came out of nowhere and took out Pedrosa (like Rossi did to Lorenzo at Jerez).

But it's too bad Pedrosa broke his collarbone.

Stoner, honest mistake.

Agree with the last 3 statements. Why he got a drive-thru is beyond my brain cells and the world feed said he deserved one. WHY?

I agree with my dad, he thinks that they've got it in for him, they being Dorna, or whoever it is that dish out penalties.

 

[Tired Tyres]

Rossi did not take out Stoner in Jerez. He passed him on the brakes and then lost the front and went down. Stoner ran into him because he had nowhere to go. It is NOTHING like the Simoncelli/Pedrosa incident.

 

[The Outlaw]

Rossi did not take out Stoner in Jerez. He passed him on the brakes and then lost the front and went down. Stoner ran into him because he had nowhere to go. It is NOTHING like the Simoncelli/Pedrosa incident.

The accident would have never happened had Rossi not outdone himself underbraking though (leaving Stoner with a inevitable fall)....so in my eyes at least, Rossi did in fact take Stoner out. And if you or I were in that situation we would probably be saying the same thing

Regardless, they are two very different incidents though, as you stated.