NASCAR Thread.

[01GTP]

GO Mark Martin.


I'd sign Danica, but 1 year or 2 at a time until she is an established NASCAR driver.
That would have to be in the Nationwide series.
After some wins in the Nationwide series sign here up for 3 years in the Sprint Cup series.
No wins in the lower series and she stays there.

I'm sure there is a team out there that would sign her, if only for a partial season.
Plenty of teams have multiple drivers in the Nationwide series.

It's up to her now.

 

[Ian Poole]

If you don't know, here is the qualifying times and speeds for Phoenix Sprint Race tonight


POS CAR DRIVER MAKE SPONSOR SPEED TIME BEHIND
1 1 Martin Truex Jr. Chevrolet Rain-X 135.120 26.643 Leader
2 2 Kurt Busch Dodge Miller Lite 134.579 26.750 -0.107
3 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevrolet Lowe's 134.454 26.775 -0.132
4 9 Kasey Kahne Dodge Budweiser 134.293 26.807 -0.164
5 11 Denny Hamlin Toyota FedEx Ground 134.228 26.820 -0.177
6 16 Greg Biffle Ford 3M 134.223 26.821 -0.178
7 18 Kyle Busch Toyota Pedigree 134.173 26.831 -0.188
8 14 Tony Stewart Chevrolet Old Spice / Office Depot 134.078 26.850 -0.207
9 07 Casey Mears Chevrolet Jack Daniel's 134.028 26.860 -0.217
10 5 Mark Martin Chevrolet Kellogg's / Carquest 134.023 26.861 -0.218
11 55 Michael Waltrip Toyota NAPA Auto Parts 133.949 26.876 -0.233
12 77 Sam Hornish Jr. Dodge Mobil 1 133.924 26.881 -0.238
13 33 Clint Bowyer Chevrolet Cheerios / Hamburger Helper 133.879 26.890 -0.247
14 24 Jeff Gordon Chevrolet DuPont 133.874 26.891 -0.248
15 00 David Reutimann Toyota Aaron's Dream Machine 133.864 26.893 -0.250
16 44 A.J. Allmendinger Ford Ford. Drive one. 133.759 26.914 -0.271
17 42 Juan Montoya Chevrolet Target 133.720 26.922 -0.279
18 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet Amp Energy / National Guard 133.700 26.926 -0.283
19 83 Brian Vickers Toyota Red Bull 133.680 26.930 -0.287
20 171 Bobby Labonte Chevrolet TRG Motorsports 133.571 26.952 -0.309
21 47 Marcos Ambrose Toyota Little Debbie / Kingsford / Clorox 133.551 26.956 -0.313
22 7 Robby Gordon Toyota Jim Beam 133.417 26.983 -0.340
23 113 Max Papis* Toyota GEICO 133.402 26.986 -0.343
24 39 Ryan Newman Chevrolet U.S. Army 133.240 27.019 -0.376
25 99 Carl Edwards Ford Aflac 133.215 27.024 -0.381
26 12 Brad Keselowski Dodge Penske Racing 133.161 27.035 -0.392
27 20 Joey Logano* Toyota Home Depot 133.151 27.037 -0.394
28 17 Matt Kenseth Ford USG Sheetrock 133.121 27.043 -0.400
29 09 David Gilliland Chevrolet Miccosukee Resort & Gaming 133.087 27.050 -0.407
30 26 Jamie McMurray Ford Irwin Marathon Saw Blades 133.062 27.055 -0.412
31 29 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet Shell / Pennzoil 132.930 27.082 -0.439
32 66 Dave Blaney Toyota Prism Motorsports 132.925 27.083 -0.440
33 6 David Ragan Ford UPS 132.812 27.106 -0.463
34 187 Joe Nemechek Toyota NEMCO Motorsports 132.783 27.112 -0.469
35 19 Elliott Sadler Dodge Insignia 132.763 27.116 -0.473
36 31 Jeff Burton Chevrolet Cat Financial 132.650 27.139 -0.496
37 82 Scott Speed* Toyota Red Bull 132.333 27.204 -0.561
38 36 Michael McDowell Toyota Wave Energy Drink 132.275 27.216 -0.573
39 96 Erik Darnell Ford Valvoline 132.178 27.236 -0.593
40 43 Reed Sorenson+ Dodge Paralyzed Veterans of America 131.829 27.308 -0.665
41 98 Paul Menard+ Ford Johns Manville / Menards 131.377 27.402 -0.759
42 34 John Andretti+ Chevrolet Taco Bell 130.757 27.532 -0.889
43 37 Tony Raines Chevrolet Long John Silver's 132.091 27.254 -0.611

Did Not Qualify
44 78 Regan Smith Chevrolet Furniture Row Companies 132.062 27.260 -0.617
45 170 Kevin Conway Chevrolet Extenze 131.892 27.295 -0.652
46 102 Brandon Ash Dodge Efusjon Energy Club 130.662 27.552 -0.909

Anyone really stand out? Suppose Casey Mears in 9th and Michael Waltrip in 11th?

 

[NISM0_SKYLINE]

Well, NASCAR is now boring. I hope something good happens at Homestead or I'm going to rethink watching it.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Congrats, I guess, to the 48 team on their 4th Championship in a row.

I've already decided that I'm not going to watch the last race.

 

[CAMikaze]

In other words...

The dies have been cast and they've come up 'snake-eyes'?
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[Northstar]

So, there will be yet another meaningless race at Homestead.

NASCAR needs to shorten the season so more races have a bigger impact.

 

[CodeRedR51]

They were discussing on Inside NASCAR the other day about a shorter season and shorter races. They absolutely need to do both.

 

[JohnBM01]

Basically, Mark Martin will need to win while Jimmie Johnson has to finish 25th or 27th or worse for Mark Martin to win the title. Sky-high challenge, but not impossible. You know, I'm really sad thinking about Mark Martin. This is one of NASCAR's best racers. He's never won Daytona, and he's never won the Cup championship. He is truly NASCAR's tragic hero. This season seems unlikely he'll win his first championship, but this man has busted his ass for years to try to prove he's one of the finest in the sport. Even when I first started watching NASCAR in 1999, he was a great racer with that #6 Valvoline Ford Taurus. With the results from Phoenix, Jeff Gordon's chances of getting title #5 are over.

All I'm saying is... Mark Martin is a driver I greatly respect. It would be tough for him to try to win the Sprint Cup this season, but I just think that for his talent and his skill, he should be a multiple-time champion. Barring any conspiracy or change of fortune, Jimmie Johnson has an easy, but not guaranteed, road to his 4th straight championship. South Florida, you're either getting a 4th championship from Jimmie Johnson or an upset by Mark Martin.

So that's my final thought to all of you- Mark Martin getting the championship will be tough, but NOT impossible. Likewise, Jimmie Johnson's road to #4 is very likely, but not guaranteed. We'll see what happens in South Florida this coming weekend...

 

[Tornado]

I'm guessing that this week will be filled with NASCAR interviews and press releases assuring people that 4 in a row wouldn't be bad for the sport, even though it goes against the very idea of the Chase and ratings have been slumping for the past couple of years as the actual championship gets more and more predictable.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Jimmy's just going to cruise the next race and take it, so for me it's over. Sure something could happen, but chances are VERY slim that it will. It's over.

 

[LSX]

👍 to Ron Hornaday for becoming a 4 time NCWTS champion. 👍 to KHI as well!

 

[Nicksfix]

Basically, Mark Martin will need to win while Jimmie Johnson has to finish 25th or 27th or worse for Mark Martin to win the title. Sky-high challenge, but not impossible. You know, I'm really sad thinking about Mark Martin. This is one of NASCAR's best racers. He's never won Daytona, and he's never won the Cup championship. He is truly NASCAR's tragic hero. This season seems unlikely he'll win his first championship, but this man has busted his ass for years to try to prove he's one of the finest in the sport. Even when I first started watching NASCAR in 1999, he was a great racer with that #6 Valvoline Ford Taurus. With the results from Phoenix, Jeff Gordon's chances of getting title #5 are over.

All I'm saying is... Mark Martin is a driver I greatly respect. It would be tough for him to try to win the Sprint Cup this season, but I just think that for his talent and his skill, he should be a multiple-time champion. Barring any conspiracy or change of fortune, Jimmie Johnson has an easy, but not guaranteed, road to his 4th straight championship. South Florida, you're either getting a 4th championship from Jimmie Johnson or an upset by Mark Martin.

So that's my final thought to all of you- Mark Martin getting the championship will be tough, but NOT impossible. Likewise, Jimmie Johnson's road to #4 is very likely, but not guaranteed. We'll see what happens in South Florida this coming weekend...

Well said John.👍
I'm pulling for Mark Martin myself.I would love to see Jimmie Johnson puff an engine,lose a tire and go 2-3 laps down,ultimately losing his championship hopes to MM.

 

[NISM0_SKYLINE]

Well said John.👍
I'm pulling for Mark Martin myself.I would love to see Jimmie Johnson puff an engine,lose a tire and go 2-3 laps down,ultimately losing his championship hopes to MM.

Yes, that would be perfect. Whats Mark's championship record? Isn't it like 3 2nd places, 3 3rd places and 4 4th places? I know it was something like that. I mean he has to win it atleast once.

 

[Nicksfix]

Whats Mark's championship record?

Here you go.

Nice chart at the bottom of the page showing Marks career.

 

[RACECAR]

*sigh* three championships have already been decided. NASCAR is officially becoming a bore. This is why people should watch ARCA instead, they actually have races that are exciting to watch and the championships aren't over until the last lap.

 

[TS]

I didn't even bother watching the race because I knew that Johnson would most likely out perform Martin and regain all the points he lost at Texas.

The chase has become an absolute joke, people (well at least me) are only really watching it just to see JJ win his 4th straight. The races have been mediocre and the standings haven't really changed since Kansas.

NASCAR needs to get rid of their outdated points system, structure it in a way that actually rewards drivers for winning and not consistency.

 

[MatskiMonk]

I didn't even bother watching the race because I knew that Johnson would most likely out perform Martin and regain all the points he lost at Texas.

The chase has become an absolute joke, people (well at least me) are only really watching it just to see JJ win his 4th straight. The races have been mediocre and the standings haven't really changed since Kansas.

NASCAR needs to get rid of their outdated points system, structure it in a way that actually rewards drivers for winning and not consistency.

Johnson has won 7 races this season, thats more than anyone else, a points system that further rewarded wins would still play into the 48's hands.. it might shuffle the pack behind him, but consider people like JPM, who has driven out of skin in the chase and performed far better than most expected this year, he has Zero wins... but does anybody think he doesn't deserve his chase spot?

 

[CodeRedR51]

If it were up to me, I'd start the winners points at 50, and they would count down through 25th, where 26th-43rd would end up with zero points. The bonus points for leading could stay the same.

 

[opendriver]

How about a special points system just for the 48 team? Half points maybe? Either that or Martin, Gordon and Kurt Busch need to take the 48 car down as soon as they can. I dont want that 48 car to win again!

Congrats for Edwards for this weekends win 👍

 

[Ian Poole]

Or what we could do is send The A-Team to dfeal with them?

 

[Jetboy.]

My main issue with the final races is the fact that the Cup Points leader just cruises around, everyone giving him a wide berth lest they "destroy destiny" or something of the sort. I don't want the Chase Protection Program, I want people to be fighting no matter what.


Cheers,
Jetboy

 

[LancerEvo7]

Ok, here's what we need to do:

A. Get the FIA to buy out NASCAR.
B. Paint every car except Johnson's red and put a huge Ferrari logo on the hood.
C. Sit back and watch

 

[RVDNuT374]

Our only hope for Homestead is for this to happen to Johnson:



Or this:


Or maybe even this:



I know they're all tire failures, but everyone should get my point. Unless of course Nascar & Goodyear issue Johnson his indestructable set of tires and special rules like they do every week.

 

[Earth]

If you don't count the crash at Texas Jimmie Johnson has an average finish of 3rd in this year's chase

Isn't that a little too good for this day and age and how competitive it is?

 

[RVDNuT374]

If you don't count the crash at Texas Jimmie Johnson has an average finish of 3rd in this year's chase

Isn't that a little too good for this day and age and how competitive it is?

Agreed 100% Earth. 👍 Even when Dale Earnhardt and Jeff Gordon were dominant in the 90's, they made mistakes and had part failures just like all teams do. Jimmie Johnson on the other hand seems to have a seemingly indestructible car; his pit crew never makes mistakes, etc. It makes you wonder if there isn't some kind of "fixing" going on behind closed doors....

 

[Nicksfix]

It makes you wonder if there isn't some kind of "fixing" going on behind closed doors....

It's called "Chad Knauss",always in the gray area of racing.How many times has Knauss been popped for something illegal ? ... several

 

[Northstar]

Agreed 100% Earth. 👍 Even when Dale Earnhardt and Jeff Gordon were dominant in the 90's, they made mistakes and had part failures just like all teams do. Jimmie Johnson on the other hand seems to have a seemingly indestructible car; his pit crew never makes mistakes, etc. It makes you wonder if there isn't some kind of "fixing" going on behind closed doors....

It helps when you have a guy like Hendrick who isn't afraid to throw around money to get the best at every possible position.

If they are fixing it, they are doing a horrible job at it. As the ratings show, dominance reaks havoc on ratings.

 

[Jetboy.]

It helps when you have a guy like Hendrick who isn't afraid to throw around money to get the best at every possible position.

It also helps to have five teams at your disposal for testing and info garnering.


Cheers,
Jetboy

 

[Ian Poole]

It also helps to have five teams at your disposal for testing and info garnering.


Cheers,
Jetboy

seven if you include SHR

 

[Jetboy.]

Very true. Think of the developement/ practice time at their disposal. It's reasons like this Alan Kulwiki was the last independant to win a championship. In 1992. 👎


Cheers,
Jetboy