NASCAR Thread.

[TS]

Redo the cup cars as longer/heavier versions of the nationwide COT's IMO

 

[LSX]

Good riddance, I dislike those stupid looking wings SO MUCH. If they were at least like V8 Supercar wings, I could deal with it. But a single blade is much more pleasing to the eye. For some reason...

I like these new rule changes or rumors, bump drafting and no yellow line rule. Maybe they can make the last 1320 of a restrictor plate race happen without mass carnage.

 

[01GTP]

I like these new rule changes or rumors, bump drafting and no yellow line rule. Maybe they can make the last 1320 of a restrictor plate race happen without mass carnage.

And what would be the fun in that?

NASCAR should keep an eye on the race and let the drivers do the racing. 👍

 

[LSX]

When it ends like the April Talladega race, fans getting injured? Where is the fun in that?

I agree let the drivers race, but with a car that tends to get airborne when it turns around at those tracks, you should do something to try and fix it.

Also, with the cars so boxed in with the yellow line rule, I personally don't think it's that great to have a massive wreck coming to the line. I mean sure, it looks cool once or twice, but every time they show up to Daytona or Talladega? All I'm really saying is the same thing, to let the drivers race, don't box them in. They wreck because they are scared of a penalty and wont chance a win that is literally in sight, they'd rather drive through each other. If their accessories are big as they seem to be, they can make a judgment call if they want to try passing on the apron, which at 'Dega would work out just fine, not to much at Daytona. If it will actually fix anything? Have to wait and see on that.

 

[RACECAR]

Interestingly, I only see these finishes happen with Cup and every once in awhile with Nationwide(only at Dega ironically), The Trucks almost always never have this happen or ARCA.

 

[01GTP]

There is no fun when anyone gets hurt, or worst, killed.

It's obvious to me that with such a wing, that creates downforce when going forward, it would obviously create uplift and lift the car when traveling backward.
The spoiler needs to be returned or create a different style wing.
I wonder how did the wing pass NASCAR's safety tests? I bet no one volunteered to try it in a car (spinning backward).

The old cars did the same thing (fly going backward) but for a different reason.
It's still lift but not in addition to the wing.
I guess they will always fly in that situation.
It's the nature of the beast.

As Matt Kenseth and Ryan Newman implied last night, where ever the boundary is, is where the cars will be pushed to.
With the yellow line, the cars are tighter (3 or 4 wide, not 4 to 5 wide) going into the corner, creating a safer race.

Good point, but I say let them race where they want and watch the fallout.
It's not like it's done on every lap.

 

[JoshB1984]

Redo the cup cars as longer/heavier versions of the nationwide COT's IMO

And more wider. Last season, I noticed the COT cup cars flipping more often than old cup cars...

 

[RACECAR]

And more wider. Last season, I noticed the COT cup cars flipping more often than old cup cars...

Not sure increased width will do much. I know of many wide racecars, far wider then the COT that still flipped (abit for different reasons).

 

[Cale]

Good riddance, I dislike those stupid looking wings SO MUCH. If they were at least like V8 Supercar wings, I could deal with it. But a single blade is much more pleasing to the eye. For some reason...

I like these new rule changes or rumors, bump drafting and no yellow line rule. Maybe they can make the last 1320 of a restrictor plate race happen without mass carnage.

The spoiler could always retain the side thingies though too.

 

[LSX]

I wonder if undertrays, wide DTM style fenders with cutouts, canards and rear diffusers would help keep the cars down on the ground. I mean maybe not with diffusers and canards. But maybe the wide fenders with cut outs and undertrays. Perhaps that would make it hard for air to get inside them and cause lift. But then again, maybe an undertray would make the cars have more lift once the underside was exposed to air, like when the high rear bumper turns to the wind. I can't recall DTM cars flipping the way Nascars do, but then again, they aren't really running the speeds cup cars are side by side. Then again... If the cup cars ran DTM style aero packages, debris cautions would be rampant.

Edit: Also, perhaps with an aero package like that, even though I doubt it would be cost effective, they could possibly stay out of trouble more because they would have mountains of downforce.


EDIT:

I just realized, looking for tickets to events during Speed Weeks. You can go to everything from the Slick Mist 200, Bud Shootout, Gatoraide Duel 150's, CWTS Nextra 250, Camping World 300, and the Daytona 500 for 450-500$. Under 600$ if you include the Rolex. And even Daytona 500 Pole qualifying. Have they lowered the ticket prices? Or have I just imagined them to be astronomical in the past. You can barely get an F1 ticket for 450$. At least I think you barely can. I looked for Belgian GP tickets last year and they were 350$+.

FFF200/Rolex 24 - 4day $85.00/ Just the 24Hr - 40.00
Lucas Oil Slick Mist 200/Bud Shootout - $39.00
Gatoraide Duel 150's - $49.00
Nextra 250 - $39.00
CW 300 - $65.00
Daytona 500 - $55.00

ANDDD you could shoot over to the short track off 40 and get some local racing in too...

If you go for the cheap seats that is, IMO row 1 seat 1 is as good as it gets anyway. You feel the wind and get rubber and sand in your eyes, great stuff. Maybe I did my math wrong, but the most expensive was the Camping World 300 for 65.00, but there was no unreserved grandstand seating available.

Anyone who'd like to donate to the "Send Rob to as many races in February as possible foundation" just shoot me a PM and we can set something up! !?!??

 

[Northstar]

The CWTS Milwaukee replacement has been announced.

Trucks to race at Darlington? Sirius NASCAR Radio's Sirius Speedway with host Dave Moody is reporting that the NASCAR Camping World Truck Series will compete at Darlington Raceway in August of this year, as a replacement for the now-canceled event at the Milwaukee Mile. Expect an official announcement during this week's NASCAR portion of the annual Media Tour.(Sirius Speedway PR)(1-19-2010)
UPDATE: been told that the date of the race will be August 14, 2010.(1-20-2010)

I think it would have been cool to see them go road course racing, but Darlington will work just fine.

 

[JohnBM01]

I just saw that Darlington update from NASCAR's Twitter feed. I, too, would like to see NASCAR Trucks return to road racing. But since NASCAR Trucks are too chickens:censored: to race road courses or too good to race road courses, Darlington is still a great course.

 

[Ian Poole]

I just saw that Darlington update from NASCAR's Twitter feed. I, too, would like to see NASCAR Trucks return to road racing. But since NASCAR Trucks are too chickens:censored: to race road courses or too good to race road courses, Darlington is still a great course.

But very longwinded

I fall asleep halfway through sprint cup races there. yawnfest

 

[TS]

A picture, although it's not that great of the COT with a spoiler

 

[LSX]

Interesting, looks like the top edge of the spoiler is angled back. Like a backward facing lip. Maybe I need better glasses?

Edit: Found this in my local paper.

Just a snip of the article that came with it.

"NASCAR is relaxing some of its rules this season, and encouraging drivers to show more aggression and emotion, in large part to answer a growing fan sentiment that the sport had gone stale.

"There's an age old saying that NASCAR, 'If you ain't rubbing, you ain't racing,'" NASCAR president Mike Helton said Thursday. "I think that's what the NASCAR fan, the NASCAR stakeholders all bought into, and all expect."

The first change will be evident when the season opens next month at Daytona International Speedway, where restrictions on bump-drafting will be lifted and horsepower will be increased by the use of the largest restrictor plate since 1989.
Woo-boy, gonna be wild come race day Thank goodness they raised the fence height, I hope they are reinforced as well


NASCAR had been slowly tightening its tolerance on bumping at Daytona and Talladega - the two biggest and fastest tracks in the series, where the horsepower-sapping restrictor plates are used to control speeds - and it graduated into an outright ban issued the morning of the November race at Talladega. The edict sucked the drama out of what's typically one of the most exciting races of the year, and was the final straw for many race fans who had grown tired of watered-down racing."

 

[CodeRedR51]

^^^ My dad told me about them dropping the bump drafting rule. Glad to see it go, since they really couldn't effectively enforce it anyway.

 

[LSX]

The largest plates since '89 is what really excites me. I wonder how much more horse power they will be making with them then. If they normally have 420-450 at the plate tracks, maybe they will make upwards of 500 now with the big plates?

This could be great, or go horribly wrong.

 

[TS]

Supposedly, engines gain 15 horsepower for ever 1/16" they open up the plates, add 15hp for ever 1/16" larger the new plate is compared to the old ones (31/32").

 

[G.T.Ace]

Heres the official press-release:

NASCAR has announced that it will relax some on-track rules, putting racing back in the drivers' hands in 2010.

The changes, which begin with next month's season-opening events at Daytona International Speedway, will allow drivers to be even more competitive.

Race rule changes were one of several announcements during Thursday's annual Media Tour presentation at NASCAR's Research and Development Center in Concord, N.C.

NASCAR chairman and CEO Brian France said the loosening of on-track reins is another step in enhancing competition and back-to-basics racing.

"Over the past 10 years we've dramatically increased safety and that mission continues. However, it's time for us to allow the drivers to drive. We don't want the rules and regulations to get in the way of great racing and fantastic finishes," France said.

"NASCAR is a contact sport -- our history is based on banging fenders."

Among the changes:

• Bump-drafting rules will be eliminated at Daytona and Talladega Superspeedway. Teams also will use a bigger restrictor plate at Daytona.

Eliminating bump-drafting rules puts responsibility for on-track moves squarely back in drivers' hands. Larger restrictor plates give drivers more horsepower.

• The wing mounted on the rear on the Sprint Cup Series' new car will be replaced with a spoiler. A full-field test is scheduled for March 23-24 at Charlotte Motor Speedway. Following that, a decision on when to implement the spoiler will be made based on teams' input. The switch from wing to spoiler will return to a more traditional stock-car look.

"Over the last couple of years, there have been dozens of changes to this car, with this being the most visible change," said Robin Pemberton, NASCAR's vice president of competition.

• Cup Series director John Darby has been promoted to managing director of competition, with oversight of all three national series' directors, officials, inspection processes and race officiating. He will continue in his series director's role until his successor is found.

"Probably no one is more qualified for this new job than John," Pemberton said. "He knows and understands the officiating and inspection processes better than anyone and is the perfect fit."

Other changes announced Thursday:

• Mike Fisher, managing director of NASCAR's R&D Center, has some additions to his team. They include Brett Bodine as the director of racing, Tom Gideon as director of safety and Jamie DiPietro as manager of safety inspections.

• Beginning with the Feb. 13 season opener at Daytona, Nationwide Series teams will be limited to 15 crew members, including the driver, crew chief, spotter and seven over-the-wall pit-crew members. Teams also won't be required to provide a scorer. Last year teams had no limit on at-track crew members.

• Nationwide Series teams may run no more than two races in 2010 without using an engine sealed by series officials. Last year they could run three races before using a sealed engine.

• Camping World Truck Series teams will use double-file restarts "shootout style" in 2010, making restart rules uniform across all three national series. Teams also will return to traditional pit stops, eliminating last year's procedure of refueling and changing tires on separate stops. Teams also may use a new, vented fuel dump can, eliminating the need for a catch can.

http://www.nascar.com/2010/news/headlines/official/01/21/back.basics.racing/index.html?sc_cid=sm26

Sounds absolutely fantastic!

 

[LSX]

Supposedly, engines gain 15 horsepower for ever 1/16" they open up the plates, add 15hp for ever 1/16" larger the new plate is compared to the old ones (31/32").

Need to figure out what the new plate size is then. I'm sure we will know in a week or two weeks.

 

[Cale]

Oh boy I'm so excited!

 

[RACECAR]

Man, I now cannot wait for the 2010 season. And for the first time, I actually applaud Nascar, this is probably the one of the best moves they've ever made in a long time.

 

[LancerEvo7]

Man, I now cannot wait for the 2010 season. And for the first time, I actually applaud Nascar, this is probably the one of the best moves they've ever made in a long time.

It is necessary to read this post twice to appreciate the awesomeness and truth.

 

[TS]

Man, I now cannot wait for the 2010 season. And for the first time, I actually applaud Nascar, this is probably the one of the best moves they've ever made in a long time.

This.

 

[Ian Poole]

Hey guys, any suggestions of good places to get the Nationwide and CWTS for free in the UK?

Reccomend any good sites?

 

[TS]

Isn't there a live stream on NASCAR.com?

 

[Earth]

THey asked drivers about getting rid of the yellow line rule, Pemberton said it was around 70/30 in favor of keeping it, for now.

Im interested in seeing what changes the spoiler will bring.

 

[Northstar]

Hey guys, any suggestions of good places to get the Nationwide and CWTS for free in the UK?

Reccomend any good sites?

Justin.tv(no relation) is normally where I go. There are normally a couple people that do the races and once you find a room you like you tend to go there all the time. Not sure who will do it in 2010, the best one last year stopped doing it later in the season for some reason.

Isn't there a live stream on NASCAR.com?

No, the only NASCAR streams are during the TNT races(Racebuddy) and starting this year the Duels and All-Star race will be as well.

 

[Ian Poole]

Thanks for helping me out guys, gonna need to find it now because, as I have just found out, NO NASCAR on Sky Sports this year!

THANK 🤬 YOU SKY 🤬 SPORTS!

 

[TS]

NASCAR shooting to implement fuel injection in 2011: By the time the 2011 racing season gets under way, the only place to find a carburetor in the Sprint Cup Series might be in NASCAR's Hall of Fame. Officials said today that they hope to replace carburetors with fuel injection, and have been testing potential systems with an eye toward making the change as soon as possible. "We are in the process of the development and the testing and have been for probably six or eight months," " said Robin Pemberton, vice president of competition for NASCAR. The easy part is to just build the fuel injection system. The thing that we need to put into play is how are we going to regulate it, and what's going to be fair for everybody?" NASCAR is one of the only racing organizations that continues to use carburetors in its series. Fuel injection is a more accurate, and efficient, way of delivering fuel into the engine. It has been around since the 1950s and has been in place on all passenger cars in the United States since the late 1980s. Pemberton said some Cup teams have already been developing and working with systems with the expectation that such a move would eventually be made. Some teams, Pemberton said, "do have track time & on their early production or early prototype fuel injection system. "So our goal is to shoot for 2011," he said. "I think that's pretty aggressive. "We are pushing hard."(SceneDaily)(1-23-2010)

Sounds interesting

But I wonder if they would have a spec EFI system like F1 or have the teams/manufacturers run their own variations of fuel injection?