I may be a new member here, but I've followed this thread long enough to know that you are a contrarian.
How so? The things that I've asked for are actually popular subjects, and things that a lot of people are actually asking for as well. So is that not actually in league with popular opinion, rather than against?
The thing with me is that I just don't feel that this game deserves a free pass like most others are doing. Good thing I only got this for $20. I would imagine my opinions and discussions are actually helping those out more than those that are just saying "omg this game is so guud." When looking into a game, you want to know what's bad, just as much as you want to know what's good. Most people skip out on what they feel is bad, I don't.
"Judge; judging; judged" - all of which except the latter convey an active tense - meaning the judgment is ongoing. I used the word "judged" which indicates a finality to the action. So again I say that the game cannot be fairly judged (in finality) until updates are ceased and we are left with a complete picture.
Except that it can be accurately judged based on what we have
now. That is how all judging should be. You don't judge a person on the fact that they have the possibility to do good or bad, you judge them on what they are doing, not what might happen in some hypothetical world you decide to make up for yourself. This isn't Minority Report. We should have to wait for a complete picture, we should have a complete picture when the game (or any game for that matter) releases, not wait for a possibility that may not ever come. The lack of completion is the problem here.
To illustrate: An artist may be working on a painting, during which time observers are free to draw their own conclusions about what the painting should be, and to form opinions on whether or not they like it. That is certainly their prerogative, just as it is our prerogative to form opinions on the game in its current state.
Except that they have nothing in common. When a painting is finished, it is done, there is no post editing, there is no going back and erasing and fixing things, it is done and that is when you can judge it because its the final product. We got a video game that should have been a final product on launch day, but skimped out on so many basic features that its playing catch up with itself. Even going so far to using a photomode for release images while not even giving the public that feature. This is exactly the things that need to be judged, and can accurately be judged on. Like I said, if something changes for the better, then I'm glad, but some forethought would go a long way with not only their community, but their reputation.
Whether or not it should have been released more or less complete is a different discussion altogether, but the point for this discussion is this: The game is different today than it was at release, and it may be different next month than it is today. We may dislike something about the game right now, but maybe that particular aspect wasn't dwelled upon by the developers because they chose to spend their budgeted allotment of time with another aspect. It is, after all, THEIR painting. I was merely suggesting that we maintain optimism that at the end of it all, at which point we can step back and admire or criticize the overall picture.
And that is a completely blind way to approach things. I choose not to hold back on the negatives on the fact that things might change in the future, because that street goes two ways; it also
might not change in the future, so until it does, my viewpoint on a certain aspect, or feature of the game is going to stay the same. I'm not going to try to fool myself that things
might get better. We have the overall picture, the overall picture was released last year, and now they're playing catch up.
As for my "fault" in associating authenticity with realism? You do realize that those words can be used interchangeably depending on context, right? I'm pretty sure the context in this discussion is apparent. To take TiZzla's comment for example:
"The fact that we have 90's sports cars with 7/8 gears in this game just shows how lazy Ghost are and how un-authentic this game actually is."
He/she is welcome to clarify that statement further, should you deem it necessary for your own understanding, but the context is established by the very statement itself: 90's sport cars do not typically have 7/8 gears IN REAL LIFE,therefore the game is inauthentic by virtue of the fact that they have put 7/8 gears in the cars. I agree with him on that!
Yes, but you compared the like as if we were asking for the most real simulator on the face of the earth, when it was not even remotely close to that. In context to what he was saying, he was simply bringing to light the lack of forethought in this whole update. You grasped for something that was not said, and made it out as if he is some sort of elitist and putting down the game because its not the most realistic simulator or that its not like
so and so game. That person said nothing of the sort.
I was simply presenting a positive way to look at the game that might make it more enjoyable. When I spend hard-earned money on something, I make an effort to try and enjoy it. You seem to make efforts to put peoples' opinions down.
And I was simply voicing my distaste for a certain aspect of a game, and throwing out ideas on how it can get better with some minor changes. When I spend my hard earned money, it shouldn't be to buy something and wait for it to get better, that's not fun.
However, I have not said I am not having fun with
all the game, so lets try not to pretend that has ever been the case. I have voiced what I like as well, plenty of times, many many many times over. That is called giving a thorough opinion, as well as offering something constructive to the discussion.
No, I make an effort to discuss, rather than blindly follow something. This whole forum is about peoples own opinions, and discussion happens. I will always voice mine, regardless if its agreeing or disagreeing. You don't like it? That's fine, just don't reply, and I wont discuss with you. However, you replied in opposition, as if you wanted to discuss, but now you are coming off as if I was attacking you which is far from the case.