New Car DLC 'Red Bull X2011 Prototype '11' + 14 more

[lalaurentide]

To all of you who aren't disappointed and are willing to pay 8$ for this car pack, you are what's wrong with this industry. How can we expect respect and be presented with worthy choices when you fools are willingly throwing your money away at this crap? Don't you have any standards? Are your expectations that low? When did you said to yourself: "F it, I'm giving up!". Doesn't matter who you are, when you buy DLC that is not worth it, DLC suck for everyone, or is too pricey. If people pay 8$ for slight variants of 15 cars already in the game, don't expect the next DLC to be 15 completely new cars for 8$ or 10$, prepare yourself to pay 10$ for 5 cars that are being model for GT6 either way. So I want to personally thank (I'd rather punch) each and everyone of you who will pay 8$ for this car pack, thank you.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

To all of you who aren't disappointed and are willing to pay 8$ for this car pack, you are what's wrong with this industry. How can we expect respect and be presented with worthy choices when you fools are willingly throwing your money away at this crap? Don't you have any standards? Are your expectations that low? When did you said to yourself: "F it, I'm giving up!". Doesn't matter who you are, when you buy DLC that is not worth it, DLC suck for everyone, or is too pricey. If people pay 8$ for slight variants of 15 cars already in the game, don't expect the next DLC to be 15 completely new cars for 8$ or 10$, prepare yourself to pay 10$ for 5 cars that are being model for GT6 either way. So I want to personally thank (I'd rather punch) each and everyone of you who will pay 8$ for this car pack, thank you.

Someone finally said it, I actually agree with this. This is why companies think the idea of DLC is good when they could just upgrade the game for free after they make their millions from sales.

 

[danjee]

It would be much better if the karts were actually shifter karts.

Yeah, I was hoping for that too. When I saw that we'd be getting a faster kart I thought it would be a shifter kart. Psych.

I think a series of these might be fun.

Oh yeah it would! I'd be down. 👍

 

[mcfizzle]

PD is in a whole different position right now. Including all the games of the forza series, gt5 might sell 1/3 or even a quarter of those games combined. And yes, 4 forza games came out in the same period of time PD could make just one.

Nowadays turn 10 has way more resources than PD, and the forza game series is improving at a much faster rate than its gran turismo counterpart.
In the end that means forza5 (in reality forza7 or 8) will most probably be much better than gt6, therefore it'll struggle sales-wise.

In a genre in which most games are suffering from the said problem, which coincidentally are the ones that focus on simulation, i thought that argument would be easy to get.

I'm not saying that PD will fail or something. What I'm saying is that spec 2.0's dlc is PD's response to forza4, which should be reflected in earning money, and also that there's an obvious relation between the sales of this dlc pack and if there will be more dlc coming in the future.

and then again, it's just $12. Can't believe there's people discussing about spending that kind of money, especially in a game that costs more than $500 to play (ps3+game+wheel).

Lol, like I said, there are a lot of factors going into my purchase decision but the financial situations of a company and their direct competitor are not one of them. And I try not to assume that everyone is in this amazing financial situation where $12 isn't of value to them. We all have different things going on in our lives.👍

 

[trevor24]

Srry 4 butting in but c I'm kinda hoping 4 those stealth cars packs that we're 4 preorder

 

[Stavelot]

Sorry for butting in but I'm kinda hoping for those stealth cars packs that were for preorder.

Not trying to be a micro mod but I thought 'txt' speak was not allowed in the AUP no?

 

[trevor24]

Not trying to be a micro mod but I thought 'txt' speak was not allowed in the AUP no?

Oh sorry about that I didn't know

 

[sinharvest24]

Another rx7!! Oh Yeah!!!

But i would have more appreciated a time attack car bundle!! :3

 

[glw]

To all of you who aren't disappointed and are willing to pay 8$ for this car pack, you are what's wrong with this industry. How can we expect respect and be presented with worthy choices when you fools are willingly throwing your money away at this crap? Don't you have any standards? Are your expectations that low? When did you said to yourself: "F it, I'm giving up!". Doesn't matter who you are, when you buy DLC that is not worth it, DLC suck for everyone, or is too pricey. If people pay 8$ for slight variants of 15 cars already in the game, don't expect the next DLC to be 15 completely new cars for 8$ or 10$, prepare yourself to pay 10$ for 5 cars that are being model for GT6 either way. So I want to personally thank (I'd rather punch) each and everyone of you who will pay 8$ for this car pack, thank you.

ha, ha. crying over spending 8 bucks. i piss away $8 in coffee every morning.

 

[Giygas]

The X12 needs rocket boosters and gold carbon chrome paint with awd.

 

[lalaurentide]

ha, ha. crying over spending 8 bucks. i piss away $8 in coffee every morning.

What if you piss 100$, what if you pissed a million dollars, doesn't change the fact this DLC is bad. All the money in the world cannot buy a great DLC if that DLC isn't good to start with.

 

[Goshin2568]

To all of you who aren't disappointed and are willing to pay 8$ for this car pack, you are what's wrong with this industry. How can we expect respect and be presented with worthy choices when you fools are willingly throwing your money away at this crap? Don't you have any standards? Are your expectations that low? When did you said to yourself: "F it, I'm giving up!". Doesn't matter who you are, when you buy DLC that is not worth it, DLC suck for everyone, or is too pricey. If people pay 8$ for slight variants of 15 cars already in the game, don't expect the next DLC to be 15 completely new cars for 8$ or 10$, prepare yourself to pay 10$ for 5 cars that are being model for GT6 either way. So I want to personally thank (I'd rather punch) each and everyone of you who will pay 8$ for this car pack, thank you.

Ok three points to make here.

. Did you ever take an economics class? PD basically can charge whatever they want, because they know people will buy it. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple as that.

2. For the rest of us... It is totally worth it. I would probably pay $20 for DLC, and I'm a student. Not exactly rolling in cash. What PD is doing is a heck of a lot more ethical than what ea and turn 10 do with their dlc.

3. Biggest point. THEY DONT HAVE TO HAVE DLC.
They released a game as a finished product. You bought it. It is not a requirement for them to give you extra free content. This isn't a monthly subscription. If they take their time to make more content than what was originally released, then why the heck shouldn't they be compensated for it? Counting spec 2 there have been what? 14 updates in the last year? How many have you had to pay for? What money has PD made from freely updating a game that you already willingly bought?

The fact that some people feel entitled to all this free stuff is ridiculous! They are going to worn everyday to make stuff. Of course they are going to charge for it? What are they a nonprofit organization? I don't get the reasoning here!

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[Stavelot]

When you got 14 free updates it give some a sense of unearnt entitlement....

 

[glw]

What if you piss 100$, what if you pissed a million dollars, doesn't change the fact this DLC is bad. All the money in the world cannot buy a great DLC if that DLC isn't good to start with.

You state opinion as if it is fact. My opinion is that this DLC is worth the $8. I, for one, really like touring cars.

 

[AMH_]

I hope they do more car and track packs. I can't wait to buy them all.

 

[Samus]

Ok three points to make here.

. Did you ever take an economics class? PD basically can charge whatever they want, because they know people will buy it. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple as that.

2. For the rest of us... It is totally worth it. I would probably pay $20 for DLC, and I'm a student. Not exactly rolling in cash. What PD is doing is a heck of a lot more ethical than what ea and turn 10 do with their dlc.

3. Biggest point. THEY DONT HAVE TO HAVE DLC.
They released a game as a finished product. You bought it. It is not a requirement for them to give you extra free content. This isn't a monthly subscription. If they take their time to make more content than what was originally released, then why the heck shouldn't they be compensated for it? Counting spec 2 there have been what? 14 updates in the last year? How many have you had to pay for? What money has PD made from freely updating a game that you already willingly bought?

The fact that some people feel entitled to all this free stuff is ridiculous! They are going to worn everyday to make stuff. Of course they are going to charge for it? What are they a nonprofit organization? I don't get the reasoning here!

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He isn't saying it should be free, he's saying people buying this is basically just telling PD that the fans will buy any old crap thrown at them.

 

[Goshin2568]

He isn't saying it should be free, he's saying people buying this is basically just telling PD that the fans will buy any old crap thrown at them.

But whether or not its "any old crap" is his opinion. That doesn't mean that the rest of us are "ruining the industry" or whatever.

 

[vsaber]

You know, wait a year or 2 or 3 when the DLCs piled up, they're gonna release a DLC full pack for a special price of 19.99 while we all wait another 4-5 yrs for GT6

All jokes aside, I do really hope that PD will release all new cars soon.

 

[TAZ71]

To all of you who aren't disappointed and are willing to pay 8$ for this car pack, you are what's wrong with this industry. How can we expect respect and be presented with worthy choices when you fools are willingly throwing your money away at this crap? Don't you have any standards? Are your expectations that low? When did you said to yourself: "F it, I'm giving up!". Doesn't matter who you are, when you buy DLC that is not worth it, DLC suck for everyone, or is too pricey. If people pay 8$ for slight variants of 15 cars already in the game, don't expect the next DLC to be 15 completely new cars for 8$ or 10$, prepare yourself to pay 10$ for 5 cars that are being model for GT6 either way. So I want to personally thank (I'd rather punch) each and everyone of you who will pay 8$ for this car pack, thank you.

This 👍👍👍👍

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I'll buy the track but only for Spa, because I really don't give a cr*p about the other imaginary indoor track, all the other Packs are BS, paying for cars that are already in the game(by the way someone should say to Kaz that Europe and USA also as great car manufacters), Gear and Paints, no thanks, my gear is still the one that I've had since the begining of the game(if its possible, I really don't know/remember) and for paints probably I've painted 3 or 4 cars so no deal for me, if PD didn't loose time making hundred's of BS helmets and suits and paints they might have managed to get at least half decent DLC packs.

But if you like the DLC, buy it but don't forget that the next DLC probably will be a few more Skylines, Miatas, S2000 and another bunch of helmets and suits to take some pictures beside your car because that its the only thing that suits and *****g helmets add to the game.
Because if we are satisfied with little we'll never get more.
But like some say "whatever rocks your boat"

 

[Samus]

But whether or not its "any old crap" is his opinion. That doesn't mean that the rest of us are "ruining the industry" or whatever.

But the question you have to ask yourself is are you buying the cars because you really want them, or just because they're cheap and you might as well?

 

[JDMeddie]

Ok three points to make here.

. Did you ever take an economics class? PD basically can charge whatever they want, because they know people will buy it. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple as that.

2. For the rest of us... It is totally worth it. I would probably pay $20 for DLC, and I'm a student. Not exactly rolling in cash. What PD is doing is a heck of a lot more ethical than what ea and turn 10 do with their dlc.

3. Biggest point. THEY DONT HAVE TO HAVE DLC.
They released a game as a finished product. You bought it. It is not a requirement for them to give you extra free content. This isn't a monthly subscription. If they take their time to make more content than what was originally released, then why the heck shouldn't they be compensated for it? Counting spec 2 there have been what? 14 updates in the last year? How many have you had to pay for? What money has PD made from freely updating a game that you already willingly bought?

The fact that some people feel entitled to all this free stuff is ridiculous! They are going to worn everyday to make stuff. Of course they are going to charge for it? What are they a nonprofit organization? I don't get the reasoning here!

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Yea we bought the game..and we expected it to be complete. The majority of the updates were to fix problems within the game and things that should have been in the game before its release. You pretty much just said we're getting all this free stuff without paying. I say we're getting the rest of the game that we expected to get and should have gotten when we bought it last year.

 

[Goshin2568]

But the question you have to ask yourself is are you buying the cars because you really want them, or just because they're cheap and you might as well?

But the thing is... It doesn't matter. I would pay $12 just for the spec 2 update. I'm happy with what PD are doing, and so I will gladly support them. Cars and tracks are just a bonus.

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Yea we bought the game..and we expected it to be complete. The majority of the updates were to fix problems within the game and things that should have been in the game before its release. You pretty much just said we're getting all this free stuff without paying. I say we're getting the rest of the game that we expected to get and should have gotten when we bought it last year.

Thats bull. You could have easily rented it or tried it out first before buying. If you buy a game without checking if you are satisfied with it first, then you have no one to blame but yourself.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

But whether or not its "any old crap" is his opinion. That doesn't mean that the rest of us are "ruining the industry" or whatever.

Actually we all are, he is on a bigger scope talking about DLC in general but mainly using PD. We all buy into the gimmick with various games though they've made millions already off of game sales alone. This isn't something we should just casually accept. We already bought the game why should we buy packs that could have been easily given to us with games from day one. Hence why people are fine with Spec II but pissed that we are getting rehashed cars that we can buy on the game but in a slightly altered state that now we have to pay for. Why should we have to pay for cars when PD should just spend this and the next couple of months making a true new car pack for christmas or something. People would be happy knowing that DLC was going to come out for christmas with all new cars, but no they're making us pay for cars we already can buy in the game, that should have RM buttons in GT auto but dont.

Thats bull. You could have easily rented it or tried it out first before buying. If you buy a game without checking if you are satisfied with it first, then you have no one to blame but yourself.

BS Then why give a pre-order option that sold out easily around the world? People tried GT5P and there are a number of features in it that aren't in the main GT5 game one being leaderboards. Look at how many pre-ordered the damn game, because of hype that PD promised because they are long time fans that made PD and GT what it is today and have played since GT1. So listening to a company that said these things and thus failing to meet that is the gamers fault and no blame to the company? You're warped I'm sorry but you're warped.

 

[lalaurentide]

Ok three points to make here.

. Did you ever take an economics class? PD basically can charge whatever they want, because they know people will buy it. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple as that.

Did I complaint about PD? No, I complaint about people like you who are complete tools and don't seem to realize we, all of us, could have had a real DLC if there weren't people buying that kind of crap to start with.

2. For the rest of us... It is totally worth it. I would probably pay $20 for DLC, and I'm a student. Not exactly rolling in cash. What PD is doing is a heck of a lot more ethical than what ea and turn 10 do with their dlc.

If you think it's worth it, and worth even 20$, I wouldn't want your opinion on anything, starting with what constitute a great game and what is good content, do you have to take a class in critical thinking where you live?

Second, comparing Polyphony to worse is intellectually dishonest and doesn't change the fact that this DLC is of a very low standard of quality.

3. Biggest point. THEY DONT HAVE TO HAVE DLC.
They released a game as a finished product. You bought it. It is not a requirement for them to give you extra free content. This isn't a monthly subscription. If they take their time to make more content than what was originally released, then why the heck shouldn't they be compensated for it? Counting spec 2 there have been what? 14 updates in the last year? How many have you had to pay for? What money has PD made from freely updating a game that you already willingly bought?

I don't have to have that DLC either, so I'm not gonna buy the car pack, end of story. You got a problem with that? Say your piece. I clearly said why I have a problem with people buying it. Trying to apologize for PD will get you nowhere, I'm well aware what they do and why shouldn't they when you allow them.

The fact that some people feel entitled to all this free stuff is ridiculous! They are going to worn everyday to make stuff. Of course they are going to charge for it? What are they a nonprofit organization? I don't get the reasoning here!

Man, tell me you haven't read what I wrote, which you quoted. I don't want free stuff, I'm more than willing to buy DLC, my argument is offer me meaningful DLC. What is offered is not good, Spa make sense, everything else is either bs or far down the list of what the community ask for. I'm not complaining about the price, I don't want it for free, I don't want it at all, but because YOU will buy it, it's there, it exists, they offer us that piece of garbage, YOU made my GT5 experience worse. Of all the things you can think of, was it really something you had in mind? Be real. Defend this pack for one second, even better sell me on that DLC, that'll be a tough sell, you better bring a lot of cute girls with big tits jiggling around.

If it's free, it's free, but with this pack they are selling a product which I do not see the purpose. This car pack is like an hybrid sport utility vehicle, once you start thinking about it, it's dumb. Do they really think it improves the game, the experience, as a community are we that dumb?

 

[chriz00]

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[Mac K]

Now now, simmer down guys If someone wants to buy the DLC, that's great, if they don't, thats great as well! It almost sound like your on a guilt trip trying to make those who plan on buying the DLC feel stupid because you don't agree with them or PD's choice of DLC.. Nothing personal though, just stating an observation, and for the record I would like to see PD start to stray away from Japanese cars for future DLC..

 

[Raven_WET01]

Ok three points to make here.
What PD is doing is a heck of a lot more ethical than what ea and turn 10 do with their dlc.

THEY DONT HAVE TO HAVE DLC.
They released a game as a finished product.

With you 100%...

...aaaaaaaaaaaaand you lost all credibility.

When you got 14 free updates it give some a sense of unearnt entitlement....

Those free updates were fixes to the game and half complete features they didn't finish before launch. Weren't a few of the updates simply released just to fix the other updates? The fact that they have to release patch after patch is glaring evidence that this game WASN'T complete.

Exhibit B: the often-made claim that it takes PD 6 months to develop a premium car, which is always used to justify why the game took so long to make. They're releasing -fifteen- new premium cars in this DLC package. Either (some of) these were going to be in the game and are more of the same late release stuff, or the 6 month statistic is bs and PD should've been able to release a better product initially.

If they are indeed more of the same, why pay? If they added extra F1, V8 Supercars, or 2011 model cars, people do need to pay for those. But PD hauling in money for deserved/pre-planned RM models may be seen as uncalled for by some people.

My take on this? It's hard for me to understand why modified production cars and karts are $8 when the new NASCAR lineup was free.

I'm not complaining about the price, I don't want it for free, I don't want it at all, but because YOU will buy it, it's there, it exists, they offer us that piece of garbage, YOU made my GT5 experience worse.

This too ^

 

[TAZ71]

With you 100%...

...aaaaaaaaaaaaand you lost all credibility.



Those free updates were fixes to the game and half complete features they didn't finish before launch. Weren't few of the updates were simply released just to fix the other updates? The fact that they have to release patch after patch is glaring evidence that this game WASN'T complete.

Exhibit B: the often-made claim that it takes PD 6 months to develop a premium car, which is always used to justify why the game took so long to make. They're releasing -fifteen- new premium cars in this DLC package. Either (some of) these were going to be in the game and are more of the same late release stuff, or the 6 month statistic is bs and PD should've been able to release a better product initially.

If they are indeed more of the same, why pay? If they added extra F1, V8 Supercars, or 2011 model cars, people do need to pay for those. But PD hauling in money for deserved/pre-planned RM models may be seen as uncalled for by some people.

My take on this? It's hard for me to understand why modified production cars and karts are $8 when the new NASCAR lineup was free.This too ^

Completely right, and I would pay more money for something new, or the same amount for 4 or 5 new cars, but will not pay it for 14 RM'ed cars and another "rocket".
Everyone is free to do what they want, so am I, thats why I'll only buy the Course Pack for Spa and stil think that a DLC track should have new events to use it, not just for Arcade and online.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

ha, ha. crying over spending 8 bucks. i piss away $8 in coffee every morning.

That should tell you how wasteful you are in these economic times. You saying that doesn't make you cool just to let you know. Wow $8 dollars for coffee? Does it give you magical wings?

 

[aarror]

That should tell you how wasteful you are in these economic times. You saying that doesn't make you cool just to let you know. Wow $8 dollars for coffee? Does it give you magical wings?

Thats not coffee, mate.