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- fabioctba
Honestly, I don't feel like it will get fixed because this is the advantage G25 has over the other accessories that Kaz mentioned, and this is the way they took it away.
New G25/G27 users!!!!
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That wouldn't make any sense, it isn't like we paid the same amount for the g2x wheels we paid more because we wanted more.
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Who cares if they were flatshifting - effectively that is what the controller allows you to do anyway, but it negates the flywheel mass effect.
Besides, if you can do it in real life, you SHOULD be able to do it in the game.
In GT5P, you could Heel & Toe much better as the neutral effect would only happen if you hit the limiter.
Again, not very realistic, but you could work around this.
BTW, if there is a setting that anyone knows of that allows you to Heel & Toe (Brake, clutch, throttle and change gear at the same time without going into neutral!!) please let me know!!!
I think that with the patch they mod the. Clutch time to avoid the cheating that we saw on the videos before the official release. It takes a little more time to shift so a bit longer with the clutch press & you gotta move the shifter slower from one gear to the other vs GT5P other wise it won't go into gear. So u can still do the heel to toe pressing all pedals at the same time just do the leveler movement let's say 3rd to 2nd a bit slower there fore it requires you to have the clutch pressed longer.
I gotta secure my pedals better cause they flexing a bit they bolted on the top by metal L brakects that movemen't is messing with the amount of travel I'm thinking that I'm giving the clutch when up shifting & is making me miss gears cause I'm not pressing it all the way. So project time.
I gotta secure my pedals better cause they flexing a bit they bolted on the top by metal L brakects that movemen't is messing with the amount of travel I'm thinking that I'm giving the clutch when up shifting & is making me miss gears cause I'm not pressing it all the way. So project time.
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Is there something i am missing ??.... I own a G25 and race sims like RFACTOR & LFS and have plenty of options on them games to make the steering as life like as poss.
GT5 i have two option... simulation option and a forcefeed back option and thats all i can find.
When i turn the G25 the onscreen wheel does not keep up with me real wheel motion and the whole affair seems to be lacking a pin sharp feel.
Im still thinking it is a rotation issue and if i could reduce that this G25 would dance for me like it does in the other two games.
GT5 i have two option... simulation option and a forcefeed back option and thats all i can find.
When i turn the G25 the onscreen wheel does not keep up with me real wheel motion and the whole affair seems to be lacking a pin sharp feel.
Im still thinking it is a rotation issue and if i could reduce that this G25 would dance for me like it does in the other two games.
I know I do it on my real car too.
Maybe they want to make the online experience as balanced as possible between the players with controllers & dfgt vs the g25/g27 players.
I don't know what PD thinks but I'm gonna upgarede the clutch on my EG6 to see if it makes a diference.
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http://www.pubarticles.com/article-easiest-method-to-set-up-g25-in-gran-turismo-5-1290655095.html
whats method 2 all about ???
whats method 2 all about ???
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It doesn't even say how to set up the g27. I will give it a try but in all honesty why in the hell did they not give official support?
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- canada
- rotarypower85
I think the key to heel toeing is all in the timing, I just tried it out a few minutes ago and was able to do it just fine, though I did find that you have to make sure that you don't put in more than probably 7-10% throttle as you shift, which you shouldn't have to anyway to get enough of an increase in RPM's. if you go beyond this, you will hit neutral.
Another technique would be to make sure you shift before you blip the throttle, or blip the throttle and get off it before you complete the downshift on your stick. With my slightly modded 90 RX-7, I was able to get enough RPM without going over the throttle threshold.
I'm just speaking from what I have found out in the game so far. I am by no means an expert on the subject, but just stating that I have been successful with the technique.
EDIT: On a separate note, I have found difficulty in the 1-2 upshift in all cars, seems to want more time on this shift than any other. The sensors in my shifter are fine, as I can downshift just fine, but upshifting to 2nd is a bit of a chore and can really wreck your holeshot if you screw it up, which happens all too often. I do have the patch installed for those that are curious.
EDIT 2: After thinking about the throttle threshold a bit, it makes perfect sense. They patched the game so you can't shift under full throttle, flat shifting. In a real car, that tends to destroy the transmission very quickly. Its somewhat negotiable if it actually makes a difference over proper shifting though. But, back to the point, it would make sense for PD to leave a throttle threshold such that heel toeing properly is still able to be done. Even to the uneducated it wouldn't make sense to remove such a function, so PD made a bit of a workaround, that makes you work to get it right too. So, from that, and I mean no offence to anyone, if you can't heel toe in GT5, you are simply applying more throttle than needed, which is just as bad or worse than not heel toeing at all.
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- Prodigy112
Any new drifters? Cause that's what I'm new at and I'm still tuning my car. I would like to drift with people around my skill level for fun and pointers towards each other. Lemme know? My psn is the same as my name on these forums... Just in case you're stupid and don't get it. lol. It's Prodigy112
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- TRiNi-NiNjA
cool , what does psn mean though?
i was reading that you have to mash clutch 100% for it to change from 1st into 2nd .......im waiting for my g27 to be delivered in 2 hours so ill get back to yall
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- canada
- rotarypower85
I've tried making sure I have the clutch mashed all the way down, but still doesn't seem to work really. Almost seems to be related to wheelspin, but I don't know yet. Have to do more testing to find out. I had the most problem with this issue during a specific license test relating to rally racing. You'll know which one it is when you do it.
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- Blind829
I mentioned I'm interested a ways back but I didn't see my name on any of the list...here's my info...
Drivers name: Blind829
Weapon of choice: G25
Driving style: Shifter with Clutch minus reverse, it broke this morning :-(
Driving Assist: ABS = 0 or 1, Power Steering (Still Testing)
Car in Showcase: Civic Type R (Always Changing)
Drivers name: Blind829
Weapon of choice: G25
Driving style: Shifter with Clutch minus reverse, it broke this morning :-(
Driving Assist: ABS = 0 or 1, Power Steering (Still Testing)
Car in Showcase: Civic Type R (Always Changing)
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- Kilborn230
I have a DFGT and a Fanatec 911 Turbo S but have been out off the track for some time now. I just picked up my copy of GT5 today (working nightshift at the moment so I sleep a lot) and will be playing tonight for a bit. The plan is to use the Turbo S (clutch of course) and see how it feels after I get the latest firmware for it. I'll be pretty rusty at first as I haven't raced in awhile but I'm definitely looking forward to some battles!
My experience ranges from iRacing, rFactor, SimBin titles, LFS, GT series and Forza.
PSN ID: Kilborn230
My experience ranges from iRacing, rFactor, SimBin titles, LFS, GT series and Forza.
PSN ID: Kilborn230
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- canada
- rotarypower85
Ok guys, I think I have the 1-2 shift problem figured out. Maybe someone else has figured this as well, not sure. So, what I have seen is that there is a certain amount of rev matching required before a shift can happen.
Under normal circumstances, its no problem to shift up. But, add some wheel spin into the equation, bouncing off the rev limiter, and you may not actually be at the max speed in 1st gear. This causes a condition where you have to make sure your car is either at top speed in 1st, or hold off on your shift to second with the clutch pushed in until your revs match what they would be in second gear at the speed you are actually at. Or you could just hold the throttle down till you stop picking up speed then shift. A third option is to let up on the throttle and regain traction, resulting in a condition where you can shift.
Basically, if you are spinning and still picking up speed, you can't easily shift to 2nd without letting your revs drop to a reletively low level which can take a while. So in conclusion, either spin till it stops gaining speed, or initiate manual traction control with your right foot (aka letting up till it doesn't spin).
Under normal circumstances, its no problem to shift up. But, add some wheel spin into the equation, bouncing off the rev limiter, and you may not actually be at the max speed in 1st gear. This causes a condition where you have to make sure your car is either at top speed in 1st, or hold off on your shift to second with the clutch pushed in until your revs match what they would be in second gear at the speed you are actually at. Or you could just hold the throttle down till you stop picking up speed then shift. A third option is to let up on the throttle and regain traction, resulting in a condition where you can shift.
Basically, if you are spinning and still picking up speed, you can't easily shift to 2nd without letting your revs drop to a reletively low level which can take a while. So in conclusion, either spin till it stops gaining speed, or initiate manual traction control with your right foot (aka letting up till it doesn't spin).
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- Rave2Grave
can someone teach me how to control a slide without smashing into 5,000 walls and ending up facing the wrong way? I have been practicing on Eiger with the RX-7 and I can't catch any slide. I used to drift every single corner on Eiger with the Sixaxis, but with the wheel I just can't figure it out. I hope I'll eventually 'get it'
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For people having problems not shifting in to 2nd not sure if this has been mentioned as its counting down you must put the clutch in so the game recognises that you are using the clutch similar to pressing triangle in prologue and just the same if you don't wanna use the clutch/h pattern or you need to do is push the paddle.
I just slip the clutch out as I take off (i know it doesn't make a difference) yet I have not had any problems catching 2nd gear only have had problems when I didn't press the clutch before starting off.
I just slip the clutch out as I take off (i know it doesn't make a difference) yet I have not had any problems catching 2nd gear only have had problems when I didn't press the clutch before starting off.
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- architype007
Hey Guys
I will be up for a bit of Saturday night racing. Had my G25 since March but still in the Beginner Leagues.
I'm not great with the clutch (keep missing gears). Much prefer the Paddles. Is this allowed?
My PSN - architype007
Cheers
I will be up for a bit of Saturday night racing. Had my G25 since March but still in the Beginner Leagues.
I'm not great with the clutch (keep missing gears). Much prefer the Paddles. Is this allowed?
My PSN - architype007
Cheers
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- RedVonHammer
- ToreDL87
I started todays day with the usual hopeless attempt to win the Lotus race on the Top Gear Special Event, and I noticed that the car feels like a unresponsive POS (Pardon the french) I try to steer but it just feels like I`m driving a 2.5 ton v8 car with leaf springs :S
It wasnt like this yesterday, whats going on?
It wasnt like this yesterday, whats going on?
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- Wardez
- Wardez
So is this starting this weekend? I want in on the American side.
PSN: Wardez
I'm loving my G27 in GT5. I've got heel & toe down but still need to work on shifting consistently.
And it's funny 'cause I almost never miss shifts in iracing (hardcore sim) but it's tough to get the hang of in GT.
PSN: Wardez
I'm loving my G27 in GT5. I've got heel & toe down but still need to work on shifting consistently.
And it's funny 'cause I almost never miss shifts in iracing (hardcore sim) but it's tough to get the hang of in GT.
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- Wardez
- Wardez
It's none of those wheels. You can't currently map different buttons to the G25/27. Unless someone finds a way around it we have to wait for a patch.
I don't really mind it, the start button's in a good place, rear view's right on the wheel and looking around with the D pad on the shifter's good so there's not much I would change really.
