New McLaren Super Car: No Longer Just a Rumor

That there is how you design a good looking car. Yeah, the double inlets may be a tad over the top, but everything else just seems perfect.
 
In the eye of the beholder... I still think it looks like it's out of a video game (i.e. not designed the same way at all as a real car would).

Here's the shot that might help certain individuals:

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I agree with exigeracer, looks like it's out of a video game...Burnout to be exact.

As far as real life goes, the McLaren Evora it is along with a smathering of other supercars and exotics. Nothing looks to original on it. I'm honestly not feeling the design very much at all.
 
nice that, size-wise and proportionally, it's the same as the F1, but there's not much parity beyond that.
 
I love its design! The only thing that looks less is the front air intakes and the way they bulge out of the front bumper, have it all on a straight line into the bumper and it'd look much better. I also not like the headlights all too much, but I adore the body lines of this new supercar 👍
 
The spy photos look like the driver is on one side not the center. I wonder if they are passing off the center driverwheel?
 
Well, of course, but I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by bringing up the Z06 dash in relation to my post. :confused:

I was just adding to your post of 200 mph being the norm now for supercars, and is not even considered a "wow" factor anymore in cars. So that's why I posted the Z06 thing.
 
Having thought about it it really is such a bland looking car, its so generic its untrue. It looks like, as some have mentioned, a car which has come from a video game designed to avoid licensing issues!

In a world of crazy angular Lambo's and futuristic Ferrari's this looks like a Ascari KZ1 from 2003, and its not supposed to even arrive for the next few years.

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It does have a small amount of the F1 in it but I feel it should have looked even more like it, they didnt even keep the center driving position which was one of its unique features.

I do understand that Mclaren is going for design for purpose approach like the F1 but when you look at something like the Gumpert (designed for purpose), as ugly as it may be, its individual and interesting.

This won't do well mainstream, it will sell well to collectors and thats about it. Even the name doesnt do it for me. They should stick to doing Merc's.

Robin.
 
This won't do well mainstream, it will sell well to collectors and thats about it. Even the name doesnt do it for me. They should stick to doing Merc's.

Robin.
Oh god, no. Mercedes screwed McLaren over when they were together. McLaren pretty much built the entire SLR, handling all the testing & what not themselves. Then Mercedes took the car & threw McLaren's name at the very end of model as if to say, "Oh btw, thanks!"
 
Oh god, no. Mercedes screwed McLaren over when they were together. McLaren pretty much built the entire SLR, handling all the testing & what not themselves. Then Mercedes took the car & threw McLaren's name at the very end of model as if to say, "Oh btw, thanks!"

Yeah I do see what your saying, it does seem that Merc made them look like the poor cousin in that relationship but where that partnership excelled is the styling which was clearly handled / inspired by Mercedes and as a result it looked amazing. If Mclaren had done the styling it would look like a brick.

Robin.
 
That doesn't really justify the fact that Mercedes used McLaren. If anything, the car's name should have been that of their Formula 1 team; McLaren Mercedes.
 
This won't do well mainstream, it will sell well to collectors and thats about it. Even the name doesnt do it for me. They should stick to doing Merc's.

The problem I think is that the car is just too forgettable. I really do like the design of the car but it just doesn't leave a lasting impression. Study it all you want, but it just gets forgotten as much as you look away. In order to sell, they did need to make something that is more memorable.

I really do commend them on making something that has a beauty in simplicity, but unfortunately this car also teaches us that the downside to that is that nobody remembers it. I do hope they sell well.
 
That there is how you design a good looking car. Yeah, the double inlets may be a tad over the top, but everything else just seems perfect.

The problem I think is that the car is just too forgettable. I really do like the design of the car but it just doesn't leave a lasting impression. Study it all you want, but it just gets forgotten as much as you look away. In order to sell, they did need to make something that is more memorable.

Well you changed opinions pretty quick. "Perfect" and "forgettable" shouldn't really be used to describe the same car. Simplicity in design has created some of the most memorable, well-executed and timeless products. Timelessness inherently comes when "less is more" is used well.
 

2007 isn't that long ago and in all likelyhood the Evora and 458 were well in development already at that time. I don't think anybody copied anyone else, it is just the general design direction of cars that always has them having some similarities. To throw another car in the mix, the rear window reminds me of the Audi R8.
 
And with all the talk of copying and minor dislikes of the car, I think it is really awesome. Great power #s espically the tourqe available at only 2000rpm,that thing has to be a blast. I guess if you can spend those $$$ on a toy,it would be something to consider.
 
Well you changed opinions pretty quick. "Perfect" and "forgettable" shouldn't really be used to describe the same car. Simplicity in design has created some of the most memorable, well-executed and timeless products. Timelessness inherently comes when "less is more" is used well.

I still stand by my view that the car looks fantastic. I really enjoy the way it looks when I'm looking at it. It's just that when I look away, I pretty much forget about it. It's just a pleasing car that doesn't leave its mark on the brain. Sort of like that salesman who is trained to be liked by the customer and then forgotten as soon as the customer turns away.

Is this good for the car? Eh, I donno. I think a lot of people buy these cars for their presence, which the McLaren doesn't really have to the degree of a Ferrari or Lambo.
 
2007 isn't that long ago and in all likelyhood the Evora and 458 were well in development already at that time. I don't think anybody copied anyone else, it is just the general design direction of cars that always has them having some similarities. To throw another car in the mix, the rear window reminds me of the Audi R8.

Yeah, there's only so many ways you can design the optimal aerodynamic shape when that's your main goal...
 
Found a few more "real life" pictures that I think show the car a lot better. Has a lot more character than the "press photos" probably showed. Must say the car has some serious cooling. Those side ducts are enormous. Sorry about the size.

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2007 isn't that long ago and in all likelyhood the Evora and 458 were well in development already at that time. I don't think anybody copied anyone else, it is just the general design direction of cars that always has them having some similarities. To throw another car in the mix, the rear window reminds me of the Audi R8.
And by that consensus, that means the P11 had possibly even more development time before it was shown in 2007 as well. However, 2 years is quite a bit of time, as that's about the usual time spent to get a new supercar ready. Lamborghini only needed that amount of time to get the Murcielago directly after scrapping the Kanto.

The point is, you can't have these twits going around spouting that the P11 copied Lotus/Ferrari just became it came out last. Truth is, it was designed before the Lotus Eagle name was even released. And Ferrari, well, they were probably working on the 599 when the P11 was first shown.

The fact is, McLaren have been developing this car for a very long time. There had been hints long before Car Magazine's reveal that McLaren was looking at production cars again, so it's very possible that the P11 has been through the development process equal to that of the Veyron.
 
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