New Seasonal: NR-A Roadster Cup

[GoSpeedRacer]

To anyone who's good at maths: how many of these cars are there?

Mazda Eunos Roadster (NA Special Package) '89
Mazda Eunos Roadster J-Limited (NA) '91
Mazda Eunos Roadster J-Limited II (NA) '93
Mazda Eunos Roadster SR-Limited (NA) '97
Mazda Eunos Roadster S-Special Type I (NA) '95
Mazda Eunos Roadster VR-Limited (NA) '95
Mazda Eunos Roadster V-Special Type II (NA) '93
Mazda MX-5 (NA) '89
Mazda MX-5 1.8 RS (NB, J) '98
Mazda MX-5 1600 NR-A (NB, J) '04
Mazda MX-5 1800 RS (NB, J) '00
Mazda MX-5 1800 RS (NB, J) '04
Mazda MX-5 J-Limited (NA, J) '91
Mazda MX-5 J-Limited II (NA, J) '93
Mazda MX-5 Miata (NA) '89
Mazda MX-5 Miata 1.8 RS (NB, J) '98
Mazda MX-5 Miata 1600 NR-A (NB, J) '04
Mazda MX-5 Miata 1800 RS (NB, J) '00
Mazda MX-5 Miata 1800 RS (NB, J) '04
Mazda MX-5 Miata J-Limited (NA, J) '91
Mazda MX-5 Miata J-Limited II (NA, J) '93
Mazda MX-5 Miata SR-Limited (NA, J) '97
Mazda MX-5 Miata S-Special Type I (NA, J) '95
Mazda MX-5 Miata VR-Limited (NA, J) '95
Mazda MX-5 Miata V-Special Type II (NA, J) '93
Mazda MX-5 SR-Limited (NA, J) '97
Mazda MX-5 S-Special Type I (NA, J) '95
Mazda MX-5 VR-Limited (NA, J) '95
Mazda MX-5 V-Special Type II (NA, J) '93
Mazda Roadster 1.8 RS (NB) '98
Mazda Roadster 1600 NR-A (NB) '04
Mazda Roadster 1800 RS (NB) '00
Mazda Roadster 1800 RS (NB) '04
Mazda Roadster RS (NC) '07

Wow, 34?!?!

I might be missing some, but I think that is close to all of them.

 

[N91KB]

Very underwhelming... even a Subaru 360 @ Indy oval would be more exciting.

Really? Are you sure about that last statement?

I guess I don't mind Tsukuba that much and kinda like the mx5. PD does use Tsukuba a lot though.

PS: Have not tried these yet. Going to now.

 

[SlyckTires]

For the first time, new seasonals are announced and I'm not factoring in some time in front of a hot playstation to race them, even though I have over 30 different cars to go at them with.

 

[pedrocor]

Really nice.

Yes, I used the MX-5/Miata/Eunos a lot at the beginning, and then at 4h at Tsukuba, but it was nice going back to that car, as it was a long time ago for me.

Ok, Tsukuba was unnecessary, why not Top Gear Track, Madrid Mini or Toscana, tracks poorly used in the game.

 

[Tornado]

All the cars in this game. All the tracks in this game. Thousands of possibilities.

And PD did a Miata at Tsukuba race.

 

[Indy Racerfan]

Time to start thinking outside the box PD, for these seasonal events, thanks did them and now will park the miata until we have another MX-5 event at tsukaba.

 

[alonsof1fan91]

With so many possible options, I really don't see why they made yet another Miata @ Tsukuba race. Is it pure laziness on their part? Were they hounded with calls from people saying they need more Miata races? I find that hard to believe.

This is PD. They life in their own dream world.

This just plain sucks. Ok, nothing against the Miata, this car has alot of fans (personally i HATE this car, IMO its butt ugly and has no soul).
But we already have 2 Miata races in aspec mode, both on Tsukuba (one of them is a enduro!!!!). WHY TSUKUBA. WHY PD WHY. Why not London (maybe the least used track in this game!!!), why not Suzuka east? Why no custom Toscana track? Why not Madrid, Rome or Monaco? Why this stupid, shot and boring track again?

Im sure that Mazda paid PD alot of money for this ****.

 

[BloodyPenguin]

I must say, I was very excited about the new Seasonal. But I am very biased because of what I drive.

Also, Tsukuba is my favorite track. So thanks PD!

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[Lambob]

I feel like learning something new today,

what is the difference between all those Mazdas listed above?

i.e NA, NB, J, J-limited, Eunos , MX-5 , 1.8, 1800

is there a favored model for the seasonal?

 

[Danlisa]

You know, I'll take whatever PD throw at us but I have to ask, why are they not using the tracks that are already unused?

There are so many locations and versions (reverse, east, west etc) that don't get used in either A or B-Spec races, surely Seasonals is the place to use them.

Kaz, Y U no understand this?

 

[Lambob]

All the cars in this game. All the tracks in this game. Thousands of possibilities.

And PD did a Miata at Tsukuba race.

I suspect with the new location and hired staff at PD, Kaz instructed something basic, as a training to them. This is my only possible logical answer I can live with. Actually, I am also thinking Kaz wants us to use all "unused" cars in our garage. If this is the case, I hope to see Alpha Romeo, Rally, Aston Martin Seasonals coming next.

 

[Tornado]

I feel like learning something new today,

what is the difference between all those Mazdas listed above?

Practically nothing. Most of them don't even exist in real life.

 

[CyKosis1973]

I agree that with the MX-5 as with a bunch of other cars, which are all mainly Japanese, we could with a lot less models since they are so similar. The stupid thing is there are some rather different models which they missed. How could they not included these:

- The very limited Le Mans Victory celebration turbocharged MX-5

- The MSM MX-5 (Another turbocharged factory Miata)

- The MX-5 Superlight (A 2009 concept model)

- The coupe (not as in PRHT but a real coupe)

The sad part is I guess it comes down to money and marketing with the one causing cars to be left out and with the other causing the number of cars to be inflated by including a lot of similar models. Could be worse though - imagine them including loads of different versions of rubbish cars.

Enough typing - time to hit the track and enjoy the perfect 50/50 balance of the MX-5.

All of the above would have been preferable over the gazillions, almost identical ones, we currently get to choose from. Complete overkill to have every single version, from every single year. Give us a couple of bog standard ones, a couple of the likes above and maybe a couple of "Tuner/Playstation/Gran Turismo" specials.

Better not let my wife see that Coupe version..!! She's been eyeing MX-5s already and I know she'd love one of them. Currently she's leaning toward the Daihatsu Copen. However, it's all dependent on what I can fit in, I'm 6' 4" and about 6' of that is legs..!!

{Cy}

 

[BlindZenDriver]

I feel like learning something new today,

what is the difference between all those Mazdas listed above?

i.e NA, NB, J, J-limited, Eunos , MX-5 , 1.8, 1800

is there a favored model for the seasonal?

I don't have all the answers but here is what I know.

What is know as the Miata in the US is called the Eunos in Japan and the MX-5 in Europe (and I think also Australia). As of the latest generation I think MX-5 is now used globally.

There are three main generations of the car.

NA: 1989-1997(98):
The one with the pop-up headlights.

NB: 1998-2005:
A little more curves and goodbye to pop-up headlights. Some styling is shared with the RX-7(FD). In 2001 the car got a small facelift which is best spotted on the separate fog-lights mounted low in the front.

NC: 2006-:
Current MX-5, as of 2008 there is a power hard top as well as the traditional clothes/vinyl top.

1.8, 1800: The two first generations comes with either a 1.6 litre or a 1.8 litre engine (eg. 1600 ccm or 1800 ccm). The third generation comes with either a 1.8 or a 2.0. In the US I think only the bigger of the engines has been available for much of the time.

All engines are DOHC 16V in-lin 4 cylinders. With the NB version the engine was refined somewhat and gained a little extra omph and then with the small face lift in 2001 came some sort of variable-valve-timing on the intake. With the NC model came a complete new engine which I think is based on a Ford engine but not sure which. (For some time Ford owned some of Mazda and for instance Mazda did much of the handling work on the Ford Mondeo).

J-limited: Not sure, best guess is a model limited to Japan with maybe special rims and possible suspension parts.

 

[BlindZenDriver]

Practically nothing. Most of them don't even exist in real life.

That I don't believe 👎

Maybe you're forgetting that this is a car sold globally for more than two decades and with close to a million ones sold in total.

 

[Tornado]

That I don't believe 👎

Maybe you're forgetting that this is a car sold globally for more than two decades and with close to a million ones sold in total.

There were two parts to my statement. Explain which part you find difficult to believe.

 

[BlindZenDriver]

Better not let my wife see that Coupe version..!! She's been eyeing MX-5s already and I know she'd love one of them. Currently she's leaning toward the Daihatsu Copen. However, it's all dependent on what I can fit in, I'm 6' 4" and about 6' of that is legs..!!

{Cy}

The Copen is real cute but very small - maybe you'll fit if you remove the seat

With regard to fitting in the MX-5 I'd say the 6' 4" will be tight. I'm not sure about the NC version but for the NB the seats are thicker in the 2001 and on version so best avoid that one.

As for the Coupe one it's very rare - only 200 made I think. But there is a separate hard top for the NA and NB which looks very nice and it does give a little more head room so in a way you can have both a roadster and a coupe.

 

[BlindZenDriver]

There were two parts to my statement. Explain which part you find difficult to believe.

The later one. I find it hard to believe that PD included cars that do not exist.

 

[N91KB]

In case anyone is curious, last place at Tsukuba pays 86,100 & 9600XP.

For fun, I looked for the oldest least powerful mx5 in my garage. It turned out to be a 1989 MX-5 Miata (NA) with 110 HP and 344PP with 45,XXX miles (no oil change yet) with comfort softs. Needless to say I came in last place but thought I could do better.

Tried again and came in 9th! Best lap was 1:14.141

Leader did extend the lead by about 8 seconds from the start of the race.

Wondering how much an oil change would help matters?💡

 

[axletramp]

Which is generally considered the slowest/least powerful? I'll have a go with that.

EDIT: Just seen the post above.

 

[iamjajo]

I like racing the Miatas and I still enjoy Tsukuba. Lots of Credits too. Thanks PDI!

 

[Tornado]

The later one. I find it hard to believe that PD included cars that do not exist.

See these:

Mazda MX-5 Miata 1.8 RS (NB, J) '98
Mazda MX-5 Miata 1600 NR-A (NB, J) '04
Mazda MX-5 Miata 1800 RS (NB, J) '00
Mazda MX-5 Miata 1800 RS (NB, J) '04
Mazda MX-5 Miata J-Limited (NA, J) '91
Mazda MX-5 Miata J-Limited II (NA, J) '93
Mazda MX-5 Miata SR-Limited (NA, J) '97
Mazda MX-5 Miata S-Special Type I (NA, J) '95
Mazda MX-5 Miata VR-Limited (NA, J) '95
Mazda MX-5 Miata V-Special Type II (NA, J) '93

None of them existed in real life. I'd fancy a guess and say that the majority, if not all, of the European-badged MX-5s in the game never existed either.


Keep in mind that that is just the Miatas. The actual list of cars PD basically made up for GT5 in order to pad the roster is far longer, and includes several Lexus models, a few more Mazdas in addition to the Miatas, some Nissans and some Mitsubishis. In addition to some of the race cars in the game that are presented as being real but in fact are not.

 

[mogreen42]

Even though its good we have a new seasonal event, surely something more original would not have been to much to ask, I mean Mazda roadsters at tsukuba!

I thought it was cruel enough that i had to do an endurance race in the miata. Come on PD, compact cars now this. How about an All Star seasonal, it was by far the toughest to win in A spec. NASCAR would be nice also, or maybe a FGT seasonal.....

 

[Woodski_427]

>alonsof1fan91 - "butt ugly and has no soul"

**visions of being chased around Tsukuba by 34 decaying, dead eyed MX5/Miata/Eunos Roadsters in an unreliable but plucky Spitfire. Splutters to a halt, turns over, fires and stamps on the gas to just avoid being assimilated by the pursuing horde**

 

[CodeRedR51]

This is PD. They life in their own dream world.

This just plain sucks. Ok, nothing against the Miata, this car has alot of fans (personally i HATE this car, IMO its butt ugly and has no soul).

No Soul!?

Have you driven one in real life? Like, actually driven one? (not just up and down the street) There is a reason they are so popular. Most people that make a comment like that just don't get it...

 

[N91KB]

Tried Tsukuba again in my 89 Miata with an oil change this time. Power is up to 116HP and 351 PP (comfort softs).

Still came in 9th (but almost 8th). Best lap time improved to 1:13.545 from 1:14.141

Wonder how much engine/chassis rebuild would help?💡

 

[BlindZenDriver]

Seems quoting a post with quotes leaves out the qoute, so I copy+pasted a bit in the quote below

Mazda MX-5 Miata 1.8 RS (NB, J) '98
Mazda MX-5 Miata 1600 NR-A (NB, J) '04
Mazda MX-5 Miata 1800 RS (NB, J) '00
Mazda MX-5 Miata 1800 RS (NB, J) '04
Mazda MX-5 Miata J-Limited (NA, J) '91
Mazda MX-5 Miata J-Limited II (NA, J) '93
Mazda MX-5 Miata SR-Limited (NA, J) '97
Mazda MX-5 Miata S-Special Type I (NA, J) '95
Mazda MX-5 Miata VR-Limited (NA, J) '95
Mazda MX-5 Miata V-Special Type II (NA, J) '93

None of them existed in real life. I'd fancy a guess and say that the majority, if not all, of the European-badged MX-5s in the game never existed either.

I'm sorry but you're wrong.

I grabbed a couple of books on my shelf and here is some of what they say:

Mazda MX-5 Miata J-Limited (NA, J) '91 - Sunburst Yellow
Mazda MX-5 Miata J-Limited II (NA, J) '93 - Sunburst Yellow, Pirelli tires high-power stereo
Mazda MX-5 Miata SR-Limited (NA, J) '97 - Also called the STO
Mazda MX-5 Miata S-Special Type I (NA, J) '95 - Mentioned but no details.
Mazda MX-5 Miata VR-Limited (NA, J) '95 - Based on S-special
Mazda MX-5 Miata V-Special Type II (NA, J) '93 - Based on the V-special but with Chrome wheels and mirrors and a tan soft-top.

Now I don't have similar details with regards to the NB models but I think the point is clear - the MX-5 models PD list are real (unless of course my books made them up and PD based their cars on the books).

Mentioned in the books are also pages of info on differences in gearboxes, engine management, shock absorbers, optimizations made to the brakes and what not. There is also mentioning of special limited models with unit numbers as low as 40. Names sometimes change from continent to continent as does availability.

 

[zippy_the_cat]

How about an event for NSX's

I'll second that. The road-car versions are close to unusable in the races we have now given that they're MR and don't have enough power to go up against supercars. They need their own series.

 

[BloodyPenguin]

It is fun using my "Real Life" spec Miata for these races.

Mine is quick in a straight line, but because of my crappy tires, I have troubles in the twisties. Have to do a lot of my passing in the straights... and hang on for dear life in the corners.

My Modded Mazdaspeed Miata comes to about 413pp in GT5.


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[cb1021]

All the new seasonals have SRF on right? can it be disabled?