New Thrustmaster T-GT owner - quick review as former G29 user.

[FPV MIC]

I was also thinking of a TGT for a long time but the thing that stops me cold is the fact that the G29 works so much better in other games like F1, AC, PC2, Dirt Rally etc. I mean compared to those games, GT Sport’s FFB is a joke. Even GT6 had better FFB!

So I guess PD has nerfed the G29 because they get a cut of from the TGT licensing agreement so they naturally want to funnel consumers to it. That does not sit well with me at all

I keep seeing people saying PD has nerfed the G29 for GT Sport but is there any evidence?... I mean it is an inferior wheel to the T-GT (and the T300 for that matter) after all, and I've used mine on 3 out of 4 of the titles you've stated and it works very well indeed. Have you tried the T-GT on those titles?

 

[azrilnazli]

I use osw on gts via gimx emulating as g29. Not quite impressed actually, felt like heavy spring with super smooth road surfaces and rumble from kerbs..thats all.

So probably , gts doesnt give enough ffb data to g29

 

[Riptide]

I keep seeing people saying PD has nerfed the G29 for GT Sport but is there any evidence?... I mean it is an inferior wheel to the T-GT (and the T300 for that matter) after all, and I've used mine on 3 out of 4 of the titles you've stated and it works very well indeed. Have you tried the T-GT on those titles?

The only evidence I could find is the total lack of the G29 to change any settings in GTS [which is not a price or inferior thing]. It can be set via PC though ie. steering and pedal sensitivity as well as wheel rotation, but that remains an irritation to do. Setting the well known dead zones on the G29's pedals remains a mystery though, well at least for me. So all in all not nerfed per se, but just not providing the ability to change settings, which is a big "nerf" in some way.

 

[kartman21]

How does it compare to a T300RS ? is it worth the price ?

 

[FPV MIC]

I use osw on gts via gimx emulating as g29. Not quite impressed actually, felt like heavy spring with super smooth road surfaces and rumble from kerbs..thats all.

So probably , gts doesnt give enough ffb data to g29

That's the same for all wheels in GT Sport when you compare to games like AC and PC2.

The only evidence I could find is the total lack of the G29 to change any settings in GTS [which is not a price or inferior thing]. It can be set via PC though ie. steering and pedal sensitivity as well as wheel rotation, but that remains an irritation to do. Setting the well known dead zones on the G29's pedals remains a mystery though, well at least for me. So all in all not nerfed per se, but just not providing the ability to change settings, which is a big "nerf" in some way.

So no evidence of nerfing at all. All wheels like the T-GT, T300 and G29 have PC menu's that can't be used to adjust the wheel in GT Sport. The only exception regarding adjust-ability is with the Fanatec system that has on-board adjustments that can be used for a range of different things . It also has the PC menu that can't be used in GTS.

How does it compare to a T300RS ? is it worth the price ?

It's pretty much a higher powered version with a rumble effect, that doesn't suffer from fade or heat related issues like the T300 does. To be honest, if I had a working T300 or G29 I'd wait until it crapped itself and see what's on the market then before making any decision.

 

[FitzyWATP]

I'm a G29 owner and as much as I'd love to, short of a lottery win, I won't be splashing the cash on a TGT.

I fully accept that it is superior to the G29 and many other wheels but for my ability level I can't justify the extra spend on a 'nice to have'.

If you were getting no sensation of kerbs or bumps on your G29 then there was something wrong with it.

I run 5 and 5, kerbs, bumps, concrete seams the lot are all conveyed well by the wheel, that's not to say that a superior wheel like the TGT doesn't do a better job, but that's not the same as claiming the G29 doesn't do it all.

 

[Riptide]

I'm a G29 owner and as much as I'd love to, short of a lottery win, I won't be splashing the cash on a TGT.

I fully accept that it is superior to the G29 and many other wheels but for my ability level I can't justify the extra spend on a 'nice to have'.

If you were getting no sensation of kerbs or bumps on your G29 then there was something wrong with it.

I run 5 and 5, kerbs, bumps, concrete seams the lot are all conveyed well by the wheel, that's not to say that a superior wheel like the TGT doesn't do a better job, but that's not the same as claiming the G29 doesn't do it all.

I agree with that. What the G29 offers is not too bad for the price you pay. Only wish that there was a proper way to reduce the dead zones at the end of the throttle and brake pedals - makes trail braking a bit inconsistent.

 

[RaceFuchs]

Truth is, the G29 is laughable cheap and offers great performance for its price. The TGT has always been quite expensive. It is a better wheel but it costs 300 more. So this is the point where you got to ask yourself: how much more am i willing to pay for a wheel? You could als throw 1000 bucks more on it and buy a DD wheel or some fancy Fanatec wheel.

I think the TGT is only worth it if you play a lot of GT Sport and really like this game (i do) AND you want to get a slightly (?) better overall FFB and experience in all racing games for a lot of money. Are you willing to spend it? I still havent decided yet.

Compare it to a car. Some cars offer just a little bit more performance and a bit more comfort, but cost twice as much as the other car. Is it logical to choose the more expensive car? Probably not but many people do anyways. The big question here is... is the TGT the Cayman S over base Cayman, compared to the G29? Or is it a 911?

If you are asking two persons, you get two opinons, unfortunatley. But im still grateful for all kinds of advice. Ultimatley, it would LOVE to try out the TGT at least for a couple of laps. Unfortunatley i dont see any option to do so without buying the wheel.

 

[PocketZeven]

Truth is, the G29 is laughable cheap and offers great performance for its price. The TGT has always been quite expensive. It is a better wheel but it costs 300 more. So this is the point where you got to ask yourself: how much more am i willing to pay for a wheel? You could als throw 1000 bucks more on it and buy a DD wheel or some fancy Fanatec wheel.

I think the TGT is only worth it if you play a lot of GT Sport and really like this game (i do) AND you want to get a slightly (?) better overall FFB and experience in all racing games for a lot of money. Are you willing to spend it? I still havent decided yet.

Compare it to a car. Some cars offer just a little bit more performance and a bit more comfort, but cost twice as much as the other car. Is it logical to choose the more expensive car? Probably not but many people do anyways. The big question here is... is the TGT the Cayman S over base Cayman, compared to the G29? Or is it a 911?

If you are asking two persons, you get two opinons, unfortunatley. But im still grateful for all kinds of advice. Ultimatley, it would LOVE to try out the TGT at least for a couple of laps. Unfortunatley i dont see any option to do so without buying the wheel.

The TGT is relatively new though. People ogten forget the G29 was € 400 when it just came out.

 

[Veinz]

Do all the dials and extra FFB work in other racing games yet?

 

[PocketZeven]

Do all the dials and extra FFB work in other racing games yet?

No the dials and T-DFB only work with GT sport.

 

[Franjo]

No the dials and T-DFB only work with GT sport.

I swear I saw videos where people were using the dial buttons on pc games.

I also own a g29, but in Canada the T-GT wheel is over $1000. As much as I want to buy the wheel I can't justify it as I'm not going for a top nations driver. The g29 gives me everything I need in GT Sport and PC games.

 

[Sander 001]

I keep seeing people saying PD has nerfed the G29 for GT Sport but is there any evidence?... I mean it is an inferior wheel to the T-GT (and the T300 for that matter) after all, and I've used mine on 3 out of 4 of the titles you've stated and it works very well indeed. Have you tried the T-GT on those titles?

What evidence are you looking for? Haven’t seen internal company memos but everything connects the available facts.

 

[Rinsky]

I just bought my T-GT new off Ebay for $500 and my good friend @Infineon just bought his T-GT new from a company on the internet for $550. I don't remember the site he bought it from.

Anyway do some shopping around because they are out there for sale new and well under the $1000 or $800 dollar mark.

 

[FPV MIC]

What evidence are you looking for? Haven’t seen internal company memos but everything connects the available facts.

What are these available facts then? I haven't seen anything at all to suggest the G29 has been nerfed by PD.

 

[RaceFuchs]

I just bought my T-GT new off Ebay for $500 and my good friend @Infineon just bought his T-GT new from a company on the internet for $550. I don't remember the site he bought it from.

Anyway do some shopping around because they are out there for sale new and well under the $1000 or $800 dollar mark.

Please share your thoughts! And have fun!

 

[zavisic_]

I am thinking of upgrading from G29 to T-GT.
The price is not really an obstacle for me and I also would sell the G29.
Anyway I see that the T-GT pedals arent top level, but are they still better than G29's?

 

[ARTAsean]

I am thinking of upgrading from G29 to T-GT.
The price is not really an obstacle for me and I also would sell the G29.
Anyway I see that the T-GT pedals arent top level, but are they still better than G29's?

While the T-GT is obviously optimized for GT Sport, the Fanatec CSL is equitably priced and is a better wheel in all other aspects, and across all games. More customizable, too.

 

[RaceFuchs]

While the T-GT is obviously optimized for GT Sport, the Fanatec CSL is equitably priced and is a better wheel in all other aspects, and across all games. More customizable, too.

But that wasnt really his question, was it? I think its important to know which games @zavisic_ prefers. Its pretty save to say that the TGT is the best possible choice for GT Sport.

 

[super_gt]

Its pretty save to say that the TGT is the best possible choice for GT Sport.

Are you sure.

 

[zavisic_]

While the T-GT is obviously optimized for GT Sport, the Fanatec CSL is equitably priced and is a better wheel in all other aspects, and across all games. More customizable, too.

Thanks for the info, but I dont see how this answers my question. I play only GT Sport and of course I know the T-GT wheel is a proper choice. I am more interested about the pedals that come with the wheel...

 

[ARTAsean]

Thanks for the info, but I dont see how this answers my question. I play only GT Sport and of course I know the T-GT wheel is a proper choice. I am more interested about the pedals that come with the wheel...

I feel it does answer your question because I personally believe it’s foolish to buy the best wheel for GT Sport simply because you think it’s the only racing game you’re going to play. You’re effectively making a $600 bet against yourself, and I wouldn’t do that.

 

[FPV MIC]

Are you sure.

At this stage it still is. None of us no yet how the Podium will work in conjunction with GT Sport, but it is the reason I said this earlier

To be honest, if I had a working T300 or G29 I'd wait until it crapped itself and see what's on the market then before making any decision.

 

[super_gt]

At this stage it still is. None of us no yet how the Podium will work in conjunction with GT Sport,

 

[FPV MIC]

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To be honest I take that all with a grain of salt at this stage. Of course they will say it works, just like they did with the Elite (which had many issues to start with), also TRL are sponsored by Fanatec... and Lightning could get a world record with anything .

I'd still wait for an unbiased opinion .

One other consideration is future console support, although I doubt we'll see the same as what happened with the PS4.

 

[RaceFuchs]

Are you sure.

We will see. The price tag of the Podium wheel however is a whole different league. This is like buying a Bugatti over a Porsche 911...

To be honest I take that all with a grain of salt at this stage. Of course they will say it works, just like they did with the Elite (which had many issues to start with), also TRL are sponsored by Fanatec... and Lightning could get a world record with anything .

I'd still wait for an unbiased opinion .

One other consideration is future console support, although I doubt we'll see the same as what happened with the PS4.

I dont think we should be worried about that. PS5 architecture will most likely be similar to that of the PS4, which makes an enhanced GT Sport port to PS5 quite likely. Its even more likely the TGT will work with it. Even far down the line with a potential GT7 on PS5 i dont really see any possibility of Sony dropping support for the offically licensed GT wheel. Although we could see a new version of the TGT in a couple of years... However i think you were talking about Fanatec, right?

 

[Sander 001]

What are these available facts then? I haven't seen anything at all to suggest the G29 has been nerfed by PD.

The fact that my G29 works better in GT6 or did PD suddenly become incompetent. Whichever the reason , it conveniently helps them financially. A remarkable coincidence

 

[FPV MIC]

I dont think we should be worried about that. PS5 architecture will most likely be similar to that of the PS4, which makes an enhanced GT Sport port to PS5 quite likely. Its even more likely the TGT will work with it. Even far down the line with a potential GT7 on PS5 i dont really see any possibility of Sony dropping support for the offically licensed GT wheel. Although we could see a new version of the TGT in a couple of years... However i think you were talking about Fanatec, right?

That's why I said I doubted we'd see the same as what happened with the PS4 and yes I was talking specifically about Fanatec...


because this is from the T-GT user manual.

The fact that my G29 works better in GT6 or did PD suddenly become incompetent. Whichever the reason , it conveniently helps them financially. A remarkable coincidence

GT6 and Sport are different games (FYI my old T500 worked better in GT6 as well), changes have been made, and how do you know of this financial arrangement. I thought you weren't privy to the internal company memos . I'm not privy to the internal workings of any of these companies either so imho it's all just theory. Pd were involved in the design of the T-GT and even stipulated to TM the size of the rim, couldn't this have been instead of any financial agreement?

Edited to add: I'm still yet to see any evidence of PD nerfing the G29 but going back to my own experience with the T500 got me thinking. Fanatec Elite PS4 owners are more than happy with their product in GT Sport (as they should be, it's a great wheel), and that is the direct competitor to the T-GT, so it doesn't make any sense at all to nerf the G29. Couldn't it be more the case of the less refined wheels not being capable of transferring GT Sport's more refined (in comparison to GT6) feedback properly?

 

[Sander 001]

That's why I said I doubted we'd see the same as what happened with the PS4 and yes I was talking specifically about Fanatec...


because this is from the T-GT user manual.
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GT6 and Sport are different games (FYI my old T500 worked better in GT6 as well), changes have been made, and how do you know of this financial arrangement. I thought you weren't privy to the internal company memos . I'm not privy to the internal workings of any of these companies either so imho it's all just theory. Pd were involved in the design of the T-GT and even stipulated to TM the size of the rim, couldn't this have been instead of any financial agreement?

When you wrote "it's all just theory" I expected something silly to follow but wasn't prepared for just how outlandish it was going to be


So PD are not only not making any money by licensing out the GT brand, they're also spending resources to help design the wheel

 

[Infineon]

I just bought my T-GT new off Ebay for $500 and my good friend @Infineon just bought his T-GT new from a company on the internet for $550. I don't remember the site he bought it from.

Anyway do some shopping around because they are out there for sale new and well under the $1000 or $800 dollar mark.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1360283-REG/thrustmaster_4169087_t_gt_racing_wheel.html