New Thrustmaster T-GT owner - quick review as former G29 user.

[PocketZeven]

This fan inside the motor seems to be doing a pretty good job because so far I've seen only one complaint about overheating.

Yeah I've read that post, but he admitted he was using extreme FFB and it was quite warm. But I guess all the consumer wheels are prone to overheating. That is another pro for DD. They have so much power, but you only are using 10-40% or so at the time. So the motor just stays cold to the touch.

 

[superwally]

If I were to upgrade my G29 to a T-GT I would have to cough up over three times the price I paid for my G29, which makes the two incomparable.

That's exactly what I said in the second paragraph of the message you quoted. The two wheels are not in competition and are not comparable.

 

[Lord Grey]

Z28 just posted a video a little while ago:

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He had just installed a new T-GT and his very first race with it is the first race in the video. His comments regarding the wheel (scattered throughout the video) are great. Good feedback from another experienced driver and his first experience with T-GT.

 

[PocketZeven]

Z28 just posted a video a little while ago:

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He had just installed a new T-GT and his very first race with it is the first race in the video. His comments regarding the wheel (scattered throughout the video) are great. Good feedback from another experienced driver and his first experience with T-GT.

This proves that the jittering/tire flex is also personal taste. I don’t know if it is the same effect what csl owners are complaining about. Unlike Z28 they want the option to turn this effect off.
But I suspect it is the same effect as the t-GT. It is just missing in the compatibility mode of the csl. Z28 is one fast dude though.

 

[Sander 001]

Z28 just posted a video a little while ago:

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He had just installed a new T-GT and his very first race with it is the first race in the video. His comments regarding the wheel (scattered throughout the video) are great. Good feedback from another experienced driver and his first experience with T-GT.

He’s using the G27 pedals I think.
It’s crazy that you don’t get load cell brakes for this price. Another reason why I think PD is taking a good portion of the revenue.

 

[hobbsy]

Can anyone confirm if the bespoke dials (TC, Brake Bias, etc.) Work when the HUD is off?

Cheers

 

[Haitauer]

Just got my T-GT yesterday. A bit mixed bag this one. Really good feedback and the rumble motor gives a lot more of the feedback other games have in ffb.

Curbs and traction loss is a lot more obvious. The little rumble on your feat (wheelstand pro) when shifting is a nice touch. Torque is plenty.. Have turned it down to well below 5 for comfort. Most amazing so far is the little effect how steering feels soft and jelly-like when on grass.. Hilariously immersive. Also the extra feedback of wheel going over curb where one can feel when wheel goes over either (and which side) edge of the curb is cool.

Then the mixed. First the rumble motors buzz on smooth surface.. Id rather take some even fake texture on road surface than the numbing high frequency buzz. Just a small adjustment towards roughness would be nice. There is variation to track surface, but id like the smoothest parts to be just a tad rougher.

The only big thing i didnt quite get used to yet, is how intrusive the powerfull ffb is when correcting a slide. Very strong effect similar to G29 with the oversteer help on, but this effect helps correcting the slide even when aids are turned off. Feels like build in slip recovery. Id rather take lightening steering when rear oversteers, rather than ffb helping to countersteer.

Then.. I went and tried the T-GT very shortly in PCars2 on ffb "immersive" and force turned down to 50. E30 and m4 both felt like one wheel was coming of. Crazy wobble effect even while trying to drive straight. And then you go of track, spin or hit a wall and the T-GT actually tries to BRAKE YOUR WRISTS. I had to literally let go of the wheel few times. This ones going to take alot off tuning for ffb.

Edit: and the brake pedal travel felt a bit excessive without the included mod. Have to try it on tonight.

 

[PocketZeven]

Just got my T-GT yesterday. A bit mixed bag this one. Really good feedback and the rumble motor gives a lot more of the feedback other games have in ffb.

Curbs and traction loss is a lot more obvious. The little rumble on your feat (wheelstand pro) when shifting is a nice touch. Torque is plenty.. Have turned it down to well below 5 for comfort. Most amazing so far is the little effect how steering feels soft and jelly-like when on grass.. Hilariously immersive. Also the extra feedback of wheel going over curb where one can feel when wheel goes over either (and which side) edge of the curb is cool.

Then the mixed. First the rumble motors buzz on smooth surface.. Id rather take some even fake texture on road surface than the numbing high frequency buzz. Just a small adjustment towards roughness would be nice. There is variation to track surface, but id like the smoothest parts to be just a tad rougher.

The only big thing i didnt quite get used to yet, is how intrusive the powerfull ffb is when correcting a slide. Very strong effect similar to G29 with the oversteer help on, but this effect helps correcting the slide even when aids are turned off. Feels like build in slip recovery. Id rather take lightening steering when rear oversteers, rather than ffb helping to countersteer.

Then.. I went and tried the T-GT very shortly in PCars2 on ffb "immersive" and force turned down to 50. E30 and m4 both felt like one wheel was coming of. Crazy wobble effect even while trying to drive straight. And then you go of track, spin or hit a wall and the T-GT actually tries to BRAKE YOUR WRISTS. I had to literally let go of the wheel few times. This ones going to take alot off tuning for ffb.

Edit: and the brake pedal travel felt a bit excessive without the included mod. Have to try it on tonight.

I don't experience a high frequency buzz myself in GTsport. Although I haven't played since the new update (still busy with God of War). I think what you feel when correcting, is the car's weight? Correct me if I'm wrong. I do not use any oversteer help/

I use raw with Pcars 2 with the rest almost at default. I used to run informative with my G29.

 

[Haitauer]

I don't experience a high frequency buzz myself in GTsport. Although I haven't played since the new update (still busy with God of War). I think what you feel when correcting, is the car's weight? Correct me if I'm wrong. I do not use any oversteer help/

I use raw with Pcars 2 with the rest almost at default. I used to run informative with my G29.

I dont know if "buzz" is a good word from me. But for me the frequency on the smoothes road is just above rattle where it starts to get a bit monotone. If the road really is that smooth id rather tone down the volume on that lower freq rattle than make it higher freq with same volume.

 

[PocketZeven]

I dont know if "buzz" is a good word from me. But for me the frequency on the smoothes road is just above rattle where it starts to get a bit monotone. If the road really is that smooth id rather tone down the volume on that lower freq rattle than make it higher freq with same volume.

I use the 599 often. So maybe it is less noticeable?

 

[tps_b86_]

Just got my T-GT yesterday. A bit mixed bag this one.

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The only big thing i didnt quite get used to yet, is how intrusive the powerfull ffb is when correcting a slide. Very strong effect similar to G29 with the oversteer help on, but this effect helps correcting the slide even when aids are turned off. Feels like build in slip recovery. Id rather take lightening steering when rear oversteers, rather than ffb helping to countersteer.

Then.. I went and tried the T-GT very shortly in PCars2 on ffb "immersive" and force turned down to 50. E30 and m4 both felt like one wheel was coming of. Crazy wobble effect even while trying to drive straight. And then you go of track, spin or hit a wall and the T-GT actually tries to BRAKE YOUR WRISTS. I had to literally let go of the wheel few times. This ones going to take alot off tuning for ffb.

Edit: and the brake pedal travel felt a bit excessive without the included mod. Have to try it on tonight.

This is actually very realistic, get any real car sideways and you’ll find the wheel naturally counters the slide, sometimes quite violently. This called Caster (google it).

And keeping your hands on the wheel during my a crash? The cause of many sprains,broken bones and bruises in the real world.

I actually asked whether GTS replicates this effect through wheels as I’m a DS4 user and have to use CSA because there’s little indication of a slide developing through the joysticks, nobody replied though so I’m glad you confirmed the wheel behaves just like the real world.

 

[Matty28]

The only big thing i didnt quite get used to yet, is how intrusive the powerfull ffb is when correcting a slide. Very strong effect similar to G29 with the oversteer help on, but this effect helps correcting the slide even when aids are turned off. Feels like build in slip recovery. Id rather take lightening steering when rear oversteers, rather than ffb helping to countersteer.

I think you just need to get used to this. I noticed how strong that could be when I upgraded from TX, which is already stronger than a G29. Later, I tried the G29 and it felt almost like a non-FFB wheel lol.

Has anyone had any TGT faults yet? My list from 3 TGTs + 2 TSPC:
- pedals broke
- 3x paddles not clicking properly
- joystick not registering properly
- red knob not registering properly
- weird clicking noise from base
- weird bang every now and then from base
- 2x strong coggyness
- high pitched whine from fan
- 2x loose thread on blue stitching
- faulty power brick
- All TGTs (only TGTs) refuse to work in 1 of my PC USBs and cut out twice during calibration

 

[Sander 001]

I think you just need to get used to this. I noticed how strong that could be when I upgraded from TX, which is already stronger than a G29. Later, I tried the G29 and it felt almost like a non-FFB wheel lol.

Has anyone had any TGT faults yet? My list from 3 TGTs + 2 TSPC:
- pedals broke
- 3x paddles not clicking properly
- joystick not registering properly
- red knob not registering properly
- weird clicking noise from base
- weird bang every now and then from base
- 2x strong coggyness
- high pitched whine from fan
- 2x loose thread on blue stitching
- faulty power brick
- All TGTs (only TGTs) refuse to work in 1 of my PC USBs and cut out twice during calibration

In the original T-GT thread (might be in the PC section) there were several posters complaining about failures in one form or another.

 

[Matty28]

In the original T-GT thread (might be in the PC section) there were several posters complaining about failures in one form or another.

Yup I was one of them lol

 

[PocketZeven]

Yup I was one of them lol

Yeah I remember the posts. Very unlucky! Personally no issues. Haven’t seen a lot of issues on other threads or on YouTube. Hopefully Tm did learn from the issues theat plagues the t300/tx

 

[LiberFriso]

Ok, I‘m trying out the CSL Elite. Why? Well after reading a lot and my very good experience with the PWTS I must admit it‘s more a feeling than a rational decesion and I hope l‘m not disappointed after the first impressions this weekend

 

[CJ1045]

Just received my T-GT and am very impressed. Have been using T300 since GTS was released and the T-GT feels better. You feel closer to what is going on with the feedback and the steering precision seems to be better too. I quite like the pedals too although the throttle appears softer than my Pro pedals. Need to do more laps on more tracks but the force feedback definitely makes me believe that I can understand better how the car is driving. As a result I seem to drive better and more consistently. I was fortunate to find a second hand set so the outlay was not so great. I think after I have sold my old kit then the extra outlay will only be about £100. Certainly going to be a keeper as it is such a good improvement over the already excellent T300. Have not tried it yet in anything other than GTS so might not be so clearcut with AC as some of the extra feedback effects will not be there.

CJ

 

[viper al]

I WAS going back to Logitech ,since I wore out my T-150 after a year and a half.My original wheel a Logitech DFGT still works and based on all the information available I had made up my mind on the G29 .Until I stumbled across Walmart with a T-GT for under $580.00 total.Could not pass it up even though I'm not thrilled going back to Thrustmaster. The T-GT is a AMAZING wheel just like advertised ,but time will tell if it holds up.On a side note regarding the T-150 ,it is a good wheel but will not hold up to daily use.

 

[MARC BOLAN]

I have full set Thrustmaster T-GT and Fanatec CSW v2.5. T-GT have a excellent wheel base, strong, durable , delicate and linear FFB, 4 rotary encoder works well with GTS MFD. But Thrustmaster pedals ruin everything, not on the same level to the wheel base and price rate. I don’t expect $800 Wheel set come with a cheap toy pedals, especially while I can get CSL elite + Loadcell brake pedal that have nicer build and performance with same money.

T3PA or T3PA pro just a joke when it line up with T-GT, I need to spend extra money to buy a CSP V3 and do some mod to make it work in console gaming. I will be much happy if Thrustmaster sold the wheel base and pedals separately.

 

[Lambob]

and then the guy with the dual shock controller won the race to participate in the GT Academy.

but thx for your review, I may sell my T500RS to upgrade.

 

[Krypton78]

I did it.

I bought today a T-GT also, from ebay for 480€. It is two month old and barely used. I picked it already up.
First I got the T150, then G29 and know the T-GT.

I played only 90 min, but I'm really impressed. I can't say for the moment if it will make me faster, but you really feel much, maybe even a little to much imo. How shell I describe it, there is always this "higher frequent vibration", even when you go straight. Maybe it shell simulate the car engine. But I don't like it much. But I guess I'll get used to it.

I made the torque 2 and FFB at 3. But the torque feels still to much. At 1 it is then to easy. 1 and a half would be perfect if it would exist. It would be nice if some of you would tell what you adjusted in this two options.

The pedals are not so bad at all. I was afraid, that they would be crap from what I read before. So I was going to keep the G29 pedals. But I think I'll use the pedals from T-GT. I already switched the clutch pedal with the brake pedal so that this one is on the left side now, in order to have good distance to throttle pedal.
The brake pedal travel way is really big, so its not realistic. But I like it that way anyway, because its easier (for me at least) to adjust the brake.

 

[CJ1045]

I am running mine with 4 and 8. It was what I used with the T300 and I have simply not changed it with the T-GT. I am reluctant to at the moment as I am enjoying the experience so much. I am reluctant to get into 'was 4 better than 3 or was 5 better still...'

CJ

 

[GA 52]

I am happy for you all having a great time with the new wheel, I am also thinking to make the change from my G29, but first I am curious if the new wheel gave you faster lap times.
I can not test the wheel before I buy it and better lap times is the only reason I would make that change, so I want to know it from you. So, do the change gave you better lap times ?

YES it did buddy - my CSL Elite Racing Wheel with the Load Cell pedals made all the difference for me. Tried the T-GT for a week but it was not up to my expectations so I sent it back.

 

[Krypton78]

After a day with the T-GT I'm getting used to it more and more, because in the very beginning it was just to much force for me, even in the lower settings. The FFB is really as impressive as it is said everywhere. You can feel the differences from cars also better. To make it short, it makes really fun. The price is really heavy, but on ebay you can find with a little luck some less used ones if you are patient.
My advice is, if you're planing to play GTS in long term, and/ or the future Gran Turismo parts, then buy it.
After a time I will report here also if it makes me faster. Thanks to @jasguer 's site, all our sport mode personal records are saved, so I will try to crack them

 

[CJ1045]

Does anyone know if you can decide yourself what the rotating silver knobs do in GT Sport. I have found the red one controls brake bias and the blue one traction control but these are not assigned or assignable in the controller configuration screen?

CJ

 

[PocketZeven]

Does anyone know if you can decide yourself what the rotating silver knobs do in GT Sport. I have found the red one controls brake bias and the blue one traction control but these are not assigned or assignable in the controller configuration screen?

CJ

These sadly are preconfigured.

 

[Krypton78]

After a time I will report here also if it makes me faster

My personal record in Nürburgring Gr.3 with the 911 in sportsmode is 1.55.661, done with the G29.
Today I really tried hard to brake it with my new T-GT but I managed only a 1.55.823.
I think there is no real answer if the T-GT makes you faster. I have the feeling I got faster when driving without assists compared to without assists before. Because you have the resistance from the wheel while losing grip/understeering/mini oversteering.
With assits turned on it feels completely different. With G29 you could barely differentiate if CSA is on or not.
Besides of that with T-GT youre fighting all the time against the wheel like in real car driving/racing. It's for sure more fun and makes it realistic, but sometimes its maybe not good to feel/know everything, if you want to push to limit.
With the G29 you have only the visual and the tire sound to concentrate on, but with T-GT you have also the wheel with its own mind.
But a few days are still to short to judge I guess.

I'll report again when I get more clear to it

 

[RaceFuchs]

Has been a very interesting discussion here because i'm a G29 user since summer 2016. This was my first FFB wheel and it still works fine, however, i'm playing more sims and simcades nowadays and i can't get the T-GT out of my mind. I always liked the design of this wheel, but i thought the price was too much. Now you can buy it new for 500 € at some places. But i still haven't made up my mind.

Maybe some T-GT users can help me out. Especially those who owned a G29 before.

1. FFB is better in GT Sport for sure, but how does it feel in other racing games like Assetto Corsa and ACC? These are my main racing games right now. Much improvement over G29?

2. Does it work perfectly well with ACC?

3. Do you guys use some kind of wheel stand? Which one should i choose? I'm using a wheel stand pro with my G29 right now but i guess i have to buy a new one for the T-GT?!

 

[Haitauer]

Has been a very interesting discussion here because i'm a G29 user since summer 2016. This was my first FFB wheel and it still works fine, however, i'm playing more sims and simcades nowadays and i can't get the T-GT out of my mind. I always liked the design of this wheel, but i thought the price was too much. Now you can buy it new for 500 € at some places. But i still haven't made up my mind.

Maybe some T-GT users can help me out. Especially those who owned a G29 before.

1. FFB is better in GT Sport for sure, but how does it feel in other racing games like Assetto Corsa and ACC? These are my main racing games right now. Much improvement over G29?

2. Does it work perfectly well with ACC?

3. Do you guys use some kind of wheel stand? Which one should i choose? I'm using a wheel stand pro with my G29 right now but i guess i have to buy a new one for the T-GT?!

The little I have played Assetto I think its pretty good. FFB in assetto is actually a lot closer to GT Sport than it is to any other game. In Pcars2 i still havent found good FFB settings. I think the ffb and physics in GTS are heavily under appreciated by most hard core sim purists. Im pretty sure its just because they have learned to think how a good ffb should feel. For me GTS feels leaps better and more intuitive than any competition.

My only con after spending some time with the wheel is the size of the rim.. looking to buy the fullsize Sparco r383 for it, but would love to keep the multifunction dials of T-GT rim..

 

[Sander 001]

Has been a very interesting discussion here because i'm a G29 user since summer 2016. This was my first FFB wheel and it still works fine, however, i'm playing more sims and simcades nowadays and i can't get the T-GT out of my mind. I always liked the design of this wheel, but i thought the price was too much. Now you can buy it new for 500 € at some places. But i still haven't made up my mind.

Maybe some T-GT users can help me out. Especially those who owned a G29 before.

1. FFB is better in GT Sport for sure, but how does it feel in other racing games like Assetto Corsa and ACC? These are my main racing games right now. Much improvement over G29?

2. Does it work perfectly well with ACC?

3. Do you guys use some kind of wheel stand? Which one should i choose? I'm using a wheel stand pro with my G29 right now but i guess i have to buy a new one for the T-GT?!

I was also thinking of a TGT for a long time but the thing that stops me cold is the fact that the G29 works so much better in other games like F1, AC, PC2, Dirt Rally etc. I mean compared to those games, GT Sport’s FFB is a joke. Even GT6 had better FFB!

So I guess PD has nerfed the G29 because they get a cut of from the TGT licensing agreement so they naturally want to funnel consumers to it. That does not sit well with me at all