[NEW] Time Trial Overtake Challenge. Starring: BRZ, HSV, GT-R N24

[Obsidian-2]

Currently 170th in the GT-R ... not really going to make any more attempts though. Just point it and stomp on the gas.

 

[Dalone]

Have golded the 1st two but only made it alongside the car in 2nd place at the 'Ring before getting blacked out.
But it is fun.

 

[Musolini187]

i dont know why someone would complain about the honda. it was my first time ddriving it with everything off and it drove like a dream. i think it might be the best gt500 car without the need for any kind of tune. as long as you keep the revs at maximun it doesnt even brake out and spin in corner like those le mans cars do with everything turned off.

completely agree with the gtr on the ring. it took me like 10+ tries and then i still finished first right next to the first place car, i almost macde first. didnt try another go though, it was gold even at second place. thats more than enough in that hideous gtr. maybe if i had a wheel it would be a better car, but right now its terrible. i doubt a wheel would make it that much better though.

 

[Stotty]

Rattled through these early this morning with the DS3.

I hate being critical of PD given they've provided me with a game I absolutely love, but I do wonder sometimes if they bother testing the events before launching them

GT86 is almost OK, just a bit pedestrian. The HSV is just so rubbish to drive... understeer, understeer and more understeer. But they pale alongside that uselss bag of 🤬 🤬 GTR... did no one at PD bother to test it?

A shame, as these challenges could have been enjoyable with better cars.

Oh, and while I'm in the mood for a rant... why do the leaderboards take ages to update FFS?

 

[Musolini187]

Rattled through these early this morning with the DS3.

I hate being critical of PD given they've provided me with a game I absolutely love, but I do wonder sometimes if they bother testing the events before launching them

GT86 is almost OK, just a bit pedestrian. The HSV is just so rubbish to drive... understeer, understeer and more understeer. But they pale alongside that uselss bag of 🤬 🤬 GTR... did no one at PD bother to test it?

A shame, as these challenges could have been enjoyable with better cars.

Oh, and while I'm in the mood for a rant... why do the leaderboards take ages to update FFS?

agree with everything you said except your remark about the hsv. im a ds3 player and had never driven the hsv before. i can vouch that it handles great even without a tune or any aids whatsoever. try keeping the revs at max, that way it wont understeer that badly. however low revs during a corner in first, second maybe even third will result in understeer or spin.

 

[Stotty]

agree with everything you said except your remark about the hsv. im a ds3 player and had never driven the hsv before. i can vouch that it handles great even without a tune or any aids whatsoever. try keeping the revs at max, that way it wont understeer that badly. however low revs during a corner in first, second maybe even third will result in understeer or spin.

The HSV has no balance or adjustability at all... Brake and turn... it understeers. Turn in, get on the gas... it understeers. Lift off to get some weight shift and unload the rear... it still understeers. The car won't tighten it's line, no matter what you do with it.

There's a difference between traction and handling - the HSV has plenty of traction, but it doesn't handle well.

 

[SCER]

The HSV is just so rubbish to drive... understeer, understeer and more understeer.

You're part of the 1% that considers the HSV-010 to be a poor car, where the majority of people that have played the seasonal seem to consider it one of the best Super GT cars they've driven, myself included. Just so you're aware.

 

[Stotty]

You're part of the 1% that considers the HSV-010 to be a poor car, where the majority of people that have played the seasonal seem to consider it one of the best Super GT cars they've driven, myself included. Just so you're aware.

I think 99% of people are confusing traction with handling

The HSV has no balance to it's handling... it's 100% reliant on front end grip.

When a car starts to understeer (push), you want the front to tuck when you ease the gas or use a bit of brake to get some weight shift and unload the rear... the HSV just continues to plough onwards. It doesn't rotate at all. That's not good handling IMO.

 

[SCER]

I think 99% of people are confusing traction with handling

The HSV has no balance to it's handling... it's 100% reliant on front end grip.

When a car starts to understeer (push), you want the front to tuck when you ease the gas or use a bit of brake to get some weight shift and unload the rear... the HSV just continues to plough onwards. It doesn't rotate at all. That's not good handling IMO.

I agree about it being a bit understeery to an extent. I think that when it comes to Super GT cars, most people tend to consider good handling to be ease of use. Take a Super GT NSX for example, people will tell you it's an awful car because it oversteers and is tricky to drive, but the HSV-010 has so much traction comparably that people find it a revelation.

I think that when we say that it handles well, we mean to say that it is easier to drive quickly than most other Super GT cars, particularly with a DS3.

 

[Stotty]

As you've identified, the reason the HSV is easy to drive because it understeers... meaning all you really have to focus on is controlling your entry speed. Get this right, and you can just stamp on the gas once you're at the apex.

However, for a wheel user this is frustrating, as it means you have little or no options for using wieght transfer to increase corner entry speed and carry this through the apex and on to the following straight.

Personally, I love the NSX's as they always want to point in to the corner... they are harder to drive for sure, but you can use both the front and the rear of the car equally, whereas the HSV you just drive on the front end.

 

[D-Max]

Frustration setting with this GTR. Sitting around 100th and I know where I can make time. My main problem is the AI getting in my way. A fast line through the chicane results in a slow BMW blocking my line. Then coming on to the nordschleife, the pit wall is unreal. You can't even rub tyres on it without being dq'd. I it goes well and I get beyond the viper at that left hander the impreza slams in to the back of me through the first chicane on the nordschleife!

This would be an amazing idea if it was sectors like this but without the AI. The mentality they have is lacking or this type of thing

 

[ECGadget]

Just drove the Honda for the first time... Wow, does it like to understeer... I quite like this challenge, but the AI do leave something to be desired... Got to gold the second one, then try the 3rd, but once again my credits are maxed! XD

 

[GTPMcBride]

Last time i checked i was 23rd in the HSV with 0abs an 3/2 brake balance an around the 60's in the GTR with no abs it handles better.. BMW Z4 was 63rd just behind banditkarter who i know can put in some scary laps, i chose no abs to have more work to do with my foot

 

[ECGadget]

Sweeet! Well, I've done em all, and my prize: McLaren MP4-12C
That'll do!

 

[suba1960]

I agree with Stotty ....my personal opinion of course....honda is a very special car but very easy to drive from everything..its a toy game car..i believe that the drive finds very easy his limit and the car limit .....on the other side there are cars in which the drive try very hard to find his limit and cars limit...and when find goes faster and faster and try all the time and find new limits......all these from my personal experience....i had a honda crx vti vtec and a subaru impreza wrx sti...two different cars...i like very much the honda but i love the subaru

 

[Maccer_42]

Is there a hidden assist activated for these 3 time trials? Or am I just having a weird moment, not sure why and I cant pin point my finger on exactly what it is but something felt strange about the way all 3 of these cars handled to me. I did check and all assists were off, was a fun challenge though, except for that Falken GTR weaving all over the road.

 

[Pilitev]

I really don't get these events, is it just me or did they just cut a tiny section out of a normal seasonal race and added a penalty for touching another car So instead of a 5/7 lap race you'll now get a race of half a lap..

 

[paddyree]

The gtr feels like it has the springs from a micra, no body control at all

 

[NCRthree]

I was wondering why people were complaining about the GTR. I got in turned all aids off and set my BB to 4/1. Then drove a little and restarted. Man it was a freaking handful all of a sudden. Then checked my BB and it had reset to 5/5! Try driving that thing with no ABS and 5/5 if you think it's hard to drive, lol. Was fine after that and golded after a few runs.

I don't know what you guys are complaining about "touching" the AI and having problems. I've hit them and leaned on them without penalties. You've really got to hit them with some force to get a penalty. The part I don't like is having to memorize their line so they don't veer into you and you get penalized.

 

[Shoe67]

The HSV was a hard one to get gold on. Took 20+ attempts. I hate how that car handles. Never buying that DLC for it. Only 10000th in the world.

The GTR was really nice. The car handles super easy and I'm sitting 829th right now after a few attempts. Hopefully I can improve on that a bit and be top 1000 at the end 👍

 

[frenzal]

The HSV was a hard one to get gold on. Took 20+ attempts. I hate how that car handles. Never buying that DLC for it. Only 10000th in the world.

This!!! I used to smack my kids harder than I have cliipped the IS350 and still get a DQ trying to get past it in the first right hander. As stated by a previous poster, this things understeers to buggery.

Have got to within .3 of a sec off gold, just trying to get a clean run where I don't get leaned on and may just make the gold.

 

[Doodle]

1:04.972 with the BRZ for 9th place. I think I have the possibility of beating Turismo-lester but I can't figure out turn 3 quite yet.

 

[NCRthree]

Tried Suzuka out. Got going again with no ABS and it reset to 5/5 again. Didn't notice and golded. I was wondering why there was so much brake instability! Switched to 4/2 no ABS and got a 1.12.9xx for 156th. That's really high for me-was surprised at that rank. Hope to stay in the top 500.

 

[oink83]

Had some fun with these myself. Made a video for it if anyone is having trouble with these and wants to see my runs for each and a little run down of commentary with some tips.

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[nickg07]

Taken me an hour and I've got gold in the first two races. 1:14.611 on hsv for 9662nd rank.

30 mins later...only completed one run on nurb gtr and its a 1:46.568

Only completed 2 full runs on nurb and the second run 1:45.376 for 6049th place. All gold.

Ticket 1000 gave me mx5 j limited 2 name j 93 ...

 

[NCRthree]

I really thought I'd enjoy spending time on the Nurb Event. I'm just not adept enough to get through the traffic at appropriate locations for a fast run. I watched a replay and they of course make it look so smooth and easy, lol. Then I try to emulate and can't. The worst part is I can only get along the Falken on the straight and he's oblivious. Got a 1.45.0xx but that's it. Keep DQ'ing on contact. After an hour, I'm done. Too frustrating for me.

 

[nickg07]

I quite enjoyed the challenge but in an hour or so I only completed the course twice due to disqualifications. The key is to be in front of the red car before the uphill straight to the 4th gear right hander.

If he's in front you won't make the corner or I couldn't because the track is too narrow.

 

[Both Barrels]

I can't believe there are complainers about that GTR! The car is a true true pilot's car, it does whatever I want it to do. Incredibly nimble for such a heavy beast.

 

[Stotty]

Had another run in these today.

Getting there, but a couple of passes I need to learn before getting really good times... Haven't managed to get inside the Golf in to turn 2 at R246, so only 172nd, and haven't passed the HSV cleanly before Degner yet at Suzuka, so still c.0.8 off top spot (42nd so far).

The GTR is definitely easier with the wheel, but it does have some strange handling traits 49th so far, but again, one overtake I haven't managed to make yet that's needed for a really fast time.

 

[black300zx]

Silver on first two and gold with the GTR. Carefully navigating traffic was a pain.

Anyone know what time of day the GTR event is set at? Lighting was gorgeous!