New TT & DT #28

[werty_56-1]

It seems that here isn't the DT and TT thread discuss , It's only the TT discuss

 

[jpro01]

I'm having issues with last two corners, it might be settings of my lsd 5-10-5.
My time at the moment 1:09.716
37th

 

[Going in Hot]

I'm having issues with last two corners, it might be settings of my lsd 5-10-5.
My time at the moment 1:09.716
37th

I've got issues with the second to last one for sure although you've got me by a second. So you're not putting the power down at higher speeds? I'm not quite sure how that works.

 

[Dapper]

I'm having issues with last two corners, it might be settings of my lsd 5-10-5.
My time at the moment 1:09.716
37th

Way to go, jpro! I've noticed you doing good on the leaderboards lately. 👍

 

[nonickname]

GTR '09 Spec-V destroyed the 600PP event first lap. If you have any problems, give it a try. The thing holds way better in the corners than a normal 2wd setup, especially when you gun the throttle coming out of a turn.

 

[Turbo-Kai]

so tzukuba seems to be challenging...
I will do it this evening...

I am afraid the first laps I'll only drift because tzukuba is my favorite drift track...

but maybe it is possible to get gold even with drift style.. lol

c u

 

[jpro01]

Way to go, jpro! I've noticed you doing good on the leaderboards lately. 👍

Thanks EERS, nothing else left to do in GT5. Our gt5p online crew is nowhere to be found.

 

[lator-illa]

I have issues with all corners lol. I just can't seem to get it perfect in any of them. It's either I put power down too late, or I put power down too early, and I lose a tenth here and a tenth there. I'm sure it's partly because of my tune. I am totally clueless when it comes to this aspect. I'm currently sitting at 121 with a 1:10.086 but I know there's room for way more. Tuning is my bane!

I wish PD would put out separate TT's that allow for tuning, and one where they provide a car that's bone stock.

 

[Lustika]

109,99x on Rome with ds3. I think I have to learn to use my wheel to any faster. Gets me a little angry that I am faster with ds3 than with my new wheel. Had to sweettalk my wife to buy it.

 

[ugabugaz]

109,99x on Rome with ds3. I think I have to learn to use my wheel to any faster. Gets me a little angry that I am faster with ds3 than with my new wheel. Had to sweettalk my wife to buy it.

Everyone says it takes at least a month to get really good with a wheel. Don't give up!

on another note, I simply can't do the Tsukuba event anywhere near competitively. Something simply isn't gelling for me. 1:11.749

 

[roamer2629]

so tzukuba seems to be challenging...
I will do it this evening...

I am afraid the first laps I'll only drift because tzukuba is my favorite drift track...

but maybe it is possible to get gold even with drift style.. lol

c u

True indeed. It is possible and enjoyable too!!
With comfort hard and the d-pad for acceleration control that was the way I got gold.

 

[Mightypickle]

109,99x on Rome with ds3. I think I have to learn to use my wheel to any faster. Gets me a little angry that I am faster with ds3 than with my new wheel. Had to sweettalk my wife to buy it.

I was very upset with my wheel when I first got it. The default settings don't help. Try the force feedback maxed and the steering type to simulation. Sounds like it would be harder, but it really helped me. There is definitely an adjustment period, which is why if you're patient you can get one lightly used for cheap if you wait for someone to try it, get frustrated and give up.

 

[Lustika]

I was very upset with my wheel when I first got it. The default settings don't help. Try the force feedback maxed and the steering type to simulation. Sounds like it would be harder, but it really helped me. There is definitely an adjustment period, which is why if you're patient you can get one lightly used for cheap if you wait for someone to try it, get frustrated and give up.

Thank's, i'll try that. The hard thing is the 900 degrees of turning. It's not as fast as with the ds3 when I want to avoid spinning out.

 

[Mightypickle]

Thank's, i'll try that. The hard thing is the 900 degrees of turning. It's not as fast as with the ds3 when I want to avoid spinning out.

I noticed a shift in my style. With ds3, I tend to go hard and spend more time recovering, where after I got used to the wheel more, I start off slower and work up to the point where I can't hold the line. The rotation helps make fine adjustments easy, but you do lose the superhuman ability to go lock to lock in 0.1 second. I find the pros outweigh the cons and make the game far more fun. There is no going back for me now.

 

[chriz00]

I finally beat my old time of 1'10.500 and now have a 1'10.254, which is good for 181st (atm).

I can shave at least .200 more, but I keep messing up that one corner with the arch, lol.

Gonna keep trying!

 

[Turbo-Kai]

True indeed. It is possible and enjoyable too!!
With comfort hard and the d-pad for acceleration control that was the way I got gold.

mmhh... that tzukuba was dissapointing to me...
tcs 7 / abs 3 and got gold with 3rd or 4th try...
and one of my buddies who is usually on my level was complaining that gold would be hard to get...

rome i did with the 430 scuderia in 2nd try...
and the two drift challenges also within 4 or 5 tries...

and I am really not the best driver...

so PD should increase level of difficulty...

 

[Fobia]

I'm giving up on this one...can't break into 09s even though my best splits would give me 1'09.5xx.
I'm very sad, I was 0.250 up on my ghost by T2 on 3 occasions and in every occasion I've lost 0.5 seconds in T3...and I have no clue how, must be my tune (as I can't tune, I just randomise numbers).

No point spending anymore time on this, I'm already frustrated as it is.

 

[MJGAIR]

Anyone got any decent tunes for the Tsukuba Time Trial?

I can only seem to get in the mid 1.11's and at a push probably gain another 2 tenths max, need a good tune to get me in the 1.10's or even the 1.09's.
What ever i try and change i seem to go slower, and end up going back to my original set up.

Any help would be appreciated..

 

[jiggyboo55]

Tsukuba , in fast out fast

 

[Lorenzo1201]

Anyone got any decent tunes for the Tsukuba Time Trial?

I can only seem to get in the mid 1.11's and at a push probably gain another 2 tenths max, need a good tune to get me in the 1.10's or even the 1.09's.
What ever i try and change i seem to go slower, and end up going back to my original set up.

Any help would be appreciated..

Gerchu's tune (see up this thread) is very good:tup:, try it! 1.10.193 my best time, at the moment, with this tune. Be careful near corners partializing the accelerator

 

[MJGAIR]

Gerchu's tune (see up this thread) is very good:tup:, try it! 1.10.193 my best time, at the moment, with this tune. Be careful near corners partializing the accelerator

Cheers, will have a ganda on that later on.

 

[eclipsee]

excuse mate but I don't understand how rims can influence gear ratio. I've read all thread "GTP_WRS Week 49 : Unofficial Results " but I've not read anything about relationship rims/gear ratio (maybe I misread ). Anyway, which criterion for the choice of rims? I'll installing all and test them one by one?

I was referring to this post.
Don't worry about rims, get the ones you like.

You tell them Ramon 👍

Hey Rob! nice to see you're still alive, how's it going your chainsaw?

 

[Lorenzo1201]

I was referring to this post.
Don't worry about rims, get the ones you like.

thanks a lot man, it is a relief! I thought it was a secret hidden of GT5
little OT: You have a message on PSN

 

[Saidur_Ali]

Thanks to Gerchu and eclipsee for the setup info 👍. I ran this time trial again seeing if the setup tweaks will help me and considering I didn't run this TT for a good few days, I was surprised that my first lap that was valid was good enough to put me in top 250. After a few more lap I got to 69th place and left it at that. There is a good few tenths left for me so might give it another run just for fun. Amazing how much difference a very good setup can make on this combo compared to a half decent one, I improved by 9 tenths without feeling like coming close to the limit yet while before I was wondering how am I going to go to such low times if I tried to.

 

[Morgoth_666]

With a bit more practice and setup tweaking and 7hp or so from the oil change I got down to a 1:11.16 and ~1200th. Ran quite a few laps under my old record. Was a bit up on it a couple of times so I'm pretty sure I can get into the 10s without adding downforce or torque or moving weight around.

I'm not sure if I'll have the patience to get there though. It's fun but I'm eager to try with a bit more help from the car. I wish I was better at setup but I have such a hard time reading the results of any changes I make to ever feel like I'm learning anything.

I see the leaders have broken into the 68s now.

 

[Dazmeister22]

Thank's, i'll try that. The hard thing is the 900 degrees of turning. It's not as fast as with the ds3 when I want to avoid spinning out.

Lutsika, I just got a wheel about a month ago too (Driving Force GT). I'd been playing GT5 for over a year with the DS3 and I was pretty good with it. When I first got the wheel I went backwards bigtime. The main problem wasn't being as fast as before, it was being able to recover a slide quick enough to stop a small slide becoming a full spin.

My advice is don't put the force feedback to 9, that's too high (for me at least) and it makes the steering too heavy, also it will reduce the life of your wheel. I have mine set to force-feedback 6 and no power-steering.

Start off with cars that are easy to drive fast e.g. GT300, make sure Skid Recovery, TCS, ASM are all off and just do plenty of laps practicing around the Nordschleife. Then gradually use faster cars, it worked for me anyway. I still have lots of room for improvement though.

Basically, there is no substitute for hours spent on the wheel. Whatever you do, don't get frustrated with the wheel and go back to DS3. The wheel is so much more rewarding.

People with pads seem to think that wheel users have an advantage over them (I used to as well) and in some ways they're right, you can be more precise in fast corners etc.. but, the pad users also have the advantage of being able to go from full lock left to full lock right in a split second and are able to recover from a slide/spin much more easily and quickly. There are pro's and cons to both pads and wheels.

Now I've tried a wheel though, I'd never go back to the pad. It's so much more fun and realistic with the wheel.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

Ran this again and now P34. I know from sectors that if I hook up a very good lap I will be able to get into the current top 10 but that will test my patience and need some luck to get there so I don't know if I will give it another run.

I see the leaders have broken into the 68s now.

Well only one person has done a high 1:08 and that is eclipsee 👍.



If anyone new to wheel is struggling, be more smooth and minimise steering input as much as you can. Also understand what the FFB is telling you and the visuals. You should get to the stage of reacting before you are in any big trouble more often than not.

 

[Fobia]

Ran this again and now P34. I know from sectors that if I hook up a very good lap I will be able to get into the current top 10 but that will test my patience and need some luck to get there so I don't know if I will give it another run.



Well only one person has done a high 1:08 and that is eclipsee 👍.



If anyone new to wheel is struggling, be more smooth and minimise steering input as much as you can. Also understand what the FFB is telling you and the visuals. You should get to the stage of reacting before you are in any big trouble more often than not.

Congratulations on your placement.
Now, I don't know what's the problem (obviously it's me) but I know I can drive a lot faster, I have what it takes to break into top 30 but I just can't... pressure gets me, I rage and I feel like breaking my wheel (if you know what I'm saying).
Maybe the problem is that I'm letting my emotions play for me, since all I do is drive on instinct, some people break down the track analyse every possible spot but I'm not like that, when I run it's basically I'll run an animal-like lap in my first 20 minutes and then I'll spend 400km in agony trying to beat it.
It's really sad and frustrating, maybe I'm in a need of a shrink... who knows, anyways good job.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

Congratulations on your placement.
Now, I don't know what's the problem (obviously it's me) but I know I can drive a lot faster, I have what it takes to break into top 30 but I just can't... pressure gets me, I rage and I feel like breaking my wheel (if you know what I'm saying).
Maybe the problem is that I'm letting my emotions play for me, since all I do is drive on instinct, some people break down the track analysing every possible spot but I'm not like that, when I run it's basically I'll run an animal-like lap in my first 20 minutes and then I'll spend 400km in agony trying to beat it.
It's really sad and frustrating, maybe I'm in a need of a shrink... who knows, anyways good job.

Thanks.

Do you use a ghost and also do you take note of split times? A short track like this, you have a good idea really after a few laps where the time is and watching the fastest laps also gives a better idea where the time is.

This combo requires getting good traction out of corners and precise braking so driving animal like might not be a good idea . Do you know where you are losing out on the corners, if not work on that and you shall save yourself time wasted and also improve your lap time more easily.

 

[Fobia]

Thanks.

Do you use a ghost and also do you take note of split times? A short track like this, you have a good idea really after a few laps where the time is and watching the fastest laps also gives a better idea where the time is.

This combo requires getting good traction out of corners and precise braking so driving animal like might not be a good idea . Do you know where you are losing out on the corners, if not work on that and you shall save yourself time wasted and also improve your lap time more easily.

Thanks for the tips.
Yes I take note of best splits but, the moment I go out to catch tenths then the enjoyment for me stops and frustration arises.
I might give it a go again, I've laid off that TT for a few days, might improve now.