NHL 2011-2012 Thread

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I'd like to see them get swept, so that Vigneault gets fired, and Montreal can hire him :D

At the trade deadline when the major rumor was Rick Nash's trade, I told all my friends that are Canucks friends that they should trade Luongo for Nash and let Schneider be the #1 that he deserves to be. This series would be very different if that actually happened.

But yes, get swept. Please do.
 
Kings really have dominated. It's not goaltending for the Canucks at all, it's just a lack of focus from the 'Nucks, in a pivotal game 3, instead of being a leader and playing hard, Kesler is falling and diving all over the ice. I think the Canucks championship window is starting to close, and this is proof of that.

If they were to come back and win this series, that would be quite unexpected,
 
Noob616
Kings really have dominated. It's not goaltending for the Canucks at all, it's just a lack of focus from the 'Nucks, in a pivotal game 3, instead of being a leader and playing hard, Kesler is falling and diving all over the ice. I think the Canucks championship window is starting to close, and this is proof of that.

They haven't even played like the same team that I've watched for the past two years. They are played ng different systems, different power play, different penalty kill... It's incredibly frustrating. They are taking tons of just bonehead penalties, lacking all intensity and Edler has had the biggest drop off in performance I can ever remember. I won't blame this on one guy but Edler is a huge reason we are down 3-0.

Crashbroke23
At the trade deadline when the major rumor was Rick Nash's trade, I told all my friends that are Canucks friends that they should trade Luongo for Nash and let Schneider be the #1 that he deserves to be. This series would be very different if that actually happened.

But yes, get swept. Please do.

:lol: If only trades worked like NHL 12 that'd have been great. The Canucks have already said Schneider is a #1 goalie and they aren't exactly idiots over here. If they could move a $6 million per year in Luongo out and keep Schnieder at a massive discount for their #1 they absolutely would. The problem is Columbus would never take on Luongo's contract, not while they are rebuilding. Teams want the younger and cheaper Schneider not the older more expensive Luongo. What does he have left on is contract? Another 8 years or something? It's well understood he won't play all those years and it's a salary cap contract but Columbus sure doesn't want to pay out a few million in cash those last few years to a guy no longer playing for them.


Also by keeping him until the draft their possibilities increase enormously.

Vandenal
If they were to come back and win this series, that would be quite unexpected,

Now not that I think they will come back but it was reported today Daniel Sedin practiced with the team with contact and may be cleared to play for Wednesday. They have no hope without him but with him they do. They did win 7 straight going into the playoffs. Most of those games being against teams playing for their playoff lives, including LA. It's not entirely impossible, Pittsburgh on the other hand.... Yikes. I don't know what happened there but my god. That's the only thing working in the Canucks favour right now.
 
Pittsburgh is screwed, but I don't see much of a future for the Flyers if their defense remains this sloppy.
 
You Canadians actually know the names of the hockey coaches? That's impressive.

Don't worry about who loses and wins what. Everyone will fall to the Panthers in the end.
 
Omnis
You Canadians actually know the names of the hockey coaches? That's impressive.

Yeah, Vancouver's is Alain Vigneault, he was a rookie with Montreal in the mid 90's and they fired him. If he gets fired by Vancouver I want him in Montreal again. This year, Montreal had Jacques Martin, IMO the best coach in a while, but he got fired and replaced with Randy Cunneyworth who is easily the worst coach in Montreal in the past 10 years. Dude puts a bunch of minor league plugs and goons on our second line with the $5M center.

As for Nash, at 7.8M I wouldn't touch him with Zdeno Chara's hockey stick. A classic case of a white Canadian guy being supremely over rated by the media. Rick Nash won't lead the Canucks to the promised land.
 
Nashville Vs. Florida final! You heard it here first. ;)

But seriously, the first round has been baffling so far - it's really been a good set of games to watch. The Philly-Pittsburgh and Nashville-Detroit Series are really surprising me. I guess it doesn't pay to get up on the scoreboard early. And as much as I dislike Ottawa, Vancouver doesn't look like they're going anywhere fast so there will only be one Canadian team (hopefully) after the dust settles. The Rangers-Sens series has been a good one as well!

Only thing that would make it better would be if Toronto were up there battling for it as well.
 
How about those Predators? They beat the Red Wings and now have a 3-1 lead in the series. Hopefully they can finish off the series at Bridgestone Arena. They have good defense and superb goaltending, though they don't have the key offensive players. They'll have a good run though. Players have stepped up in key situations, especially Kevin Klein (defenseman), and that's pretty much all you can ask for.
 
Yeah, Nashville has been the most pleasant of surprises of all the teams for me. I though it would be four or five games... for Detroit! I can't believe the Predators are doing so well... living up to their namesake for sure! Florida was a good game as well, considering NJ was up 3-0 within the first 10 minutes. Go underdogs go!
 
Detroit isn't as good as a team as many think. They are a veteran team, where as Nashville is a younger more energetic team. However Barry Trotz has instilled a defensive first kind of philosophy. It helps when you have a goalie like Pekka Rinne, you know as a player that if you 🤬 up, he'll save your ass from looking like an embarassment. Detroit could use a better goalie. Of course Philly doesn't need a goalie, because apparently they could score on a brick wall :lol:. That'd give them some cap room.

Kevin Klein, and Gabriel Bourque are playing like monsters in this series:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/Nashville-Predators-Detroit-Red-Wings-Game-4-041712

Klein could have made a sandwich and still had time to score that goal, really was a nice pass by Erat.
 
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I actually think the NHL would love that idea, a southern team winning the cup could revive the market down there.
 
They'd hate it, ratings would be in the can. It'd be worse than the Ottawa-Anaheim final from a few years ago.
 
From a ratings perspective it would probably be disastrous to have Nashville and Florida, but I think it'd be 🤬 good hockey, which is all that should matter.

I mean, the only thing worse than two southern teams, for the NHL, is two Canadian teams. But I think it would be a good final, because it would guarantee a brand new cup winner - it's nice to change it up now and then, you know?

Tonight should be good though - with Pittsburgh and Vancouver having their backs to the wall, those games will be interesting to watch! Gotta get my popcorn out for those. Rangers-Sens should be good as well.

But I think we can all breath a collective sigh of relief when Philly knocks the Penguins out in 4...
 
Nashville/Florida would certainly be entertaining. And two Canadian teams wouldn't be so bad. The ratings in Canada would be off the charts, especially if one of Toronto, Montreal, or Vancouver were involved.

As for tonight, looking forward to LA/VAN, and hopefully I can catch the third period of the PIT/PHI game.
 
AMCNUT
From a ratings perspective it would probably be disastrous to have Nashville and Florida, but I think it'd be 🤬 good hockey, which is all that should matter.

All that should matter but my vision of the NHL head offices is one that includes charts of TV ratings posted all over the walls.



As for the Canucks game tonight I get the feeling they'll win tonight. Daniel Sedin did a full practice yesterday and the morning skate today so it's likely he will play tonight though not guaranteed. Schnieder is in net tonight too which is good.

I predict the Canucks lose in 6. I think they'll win tonight and again in game 5 back in Vancouver simply because I don't see LA beating Vancouver in Vancouver 3 straight times. If they can pull off game 6 however that would make for one heck of a game 7 back here. Momentum, home ice and an entire province behind them would make for some pretty good odds.

If any team can do it, it's the Canucks. Their powerplay needs to be better, which with Daniel it will be, their intensity needs to go way up, they need to be discipline, and they have to find a way to best Quick. The biggest obstacle the Canucks have is Quick but if they can get some doubt in his mind or get in his face early and often they have a chance.

Of course all of that depends on Daniel coming back, if he doesn't come back tonight then I might be home with a bucket of ice cream tomorrow.


Oh and one more prediction:

Luongo has started his last game as a Canuck. I'd give my whole explanation as to why but that's another wall :P
 
Schwartz38
Unlike Luongo. :P

I think Luongo is better than people give him credit for being. The problem is he has bad games where he looks really bad and that of course if what people remember. The thing with Schnieder is you know what your getting and right now they can't afford that one bad game, they need consistency. The thing with Luongo is when he is on his game he can literally steal games for you.
 
I think Luongo is better than people give him credit for being. The problem is he has bad games where he looks really bad and that of course if what people remember. The thing with Schnieder is you know what your getting and right now they can't afford that one bad game, they need consistency. The thing with Luongo is when he is on his game he can literally steal games for you.

Luongo is a great goaltender. But I think his expectations were set too high for him in Vancouver and the pressure got to him.
 
The problem with Luongo is that his confidence sems to impact his playing ability. When he's hot he's great, but he seems to have that proverbial glass jaw, confidence wise. Looking back to last year's series against Boston the flip in playing ability between the two arenas was astounding,and I think confidence is the only way to explain it.

And it's 4-3 Pittsburgh in that game, with 2:31 left in the first. SEVEN goals in the first period of a playoff game??? Come on! I think Philly will win, but I don't see them going past round 2, not like this...
 
5-3 Pens early in the 2nd, Bryzgalov gets yanked.

EDIT: 8-3 Pens right now. Flyers took like 6 penalties in a row.
 
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Noob616
5-3 Pens early in the 2nd, Bryzgalov gets yanked.

EDIT: 8-3 Pens right now. Flyers took like 6 penalties in a row.

Edit: 10-3!!! What a wild series. I don't remember anything like it.
 
Canucks won!

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