No Love For The Oldies?
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Maybe this will solve some problems, or just create more:
What surprises me most about this picture is how big the R32 looks compared to the R33 & R34. The last time i saw a R32 i was taken aback by how compact it seemed especially since i often see a R33 around where i live and that always looks a big car.
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The rest of the world is happy with the Nissan Micra too, J88....
In terms of knee-shaking, heart-wrenching, take-your-breath-away personality, the GTR seems to lack it. That's okay, it's still early days as of yet and there may be harder, more frightening GTRs to come, but you evidently have a one-eyed approach to your motoring. I would never have thought that you could have fast and bland in the same sentence, but Nissan have done it.
The question is, (cost issues aside) what would you prefer in your driveway? A Porsche 911 GT2, a Ferrari F430 or a Nissan GTR?
In terms of knee-shaking, heart-wrenching, take-your-breath-away personality, the GTR seems to lack it. That's okay, it's still early days as of yet and there may be harder, more frightening GTRs to come, but you evidently have a one-eyed approach to your motoring. I would never have thought that you could have fast and bland in the same sentence, but Nissan have done it.
The question is, (cost issues aside) what would you prefer in your driveway? A Porsche 911 GT2, a Ferrari F430 or a Nissan GTR?
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Trick of the eye, the R32 is only (forgot the exact measurements) slightly shorter in the rear quarter area, as is R34.
A GTR with lots of change.
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I wouldn't kick an R35 out of bed if it were free, but I wouldn't buy one...I'd get a 1st gen Viper, Exige, 996 GT3, FD RX-7, or a Ferrari 360 long before I'd put my money towards any GTR.
I don't like the new design at all. Compared to other Skylines, I prefer the R33.
But then again, I generally like curves instead of boxy cars, so I prefer true sports car shapes over sedan like sporty cars. If the Japanese manufacturers were to put the mechanicals of the STI/EVO/GTR into a sports car instead of a sedan, I'd seriously consider getting one.
Cost issues aside, it's a toss up between the Ferrari and the Porsche. I wouldn't even consider the GTR.
If I were looking on a budget, I'd get the new Viper ACR or 997 GT3.
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since when does a GTR have more character than a 911?
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The overal look of the 911 has been the same for about 40 years. So i find it boring. Can't a person have a opinion on this forum!
And here you go again with your character.Don't worry the GTR is far from bland and wont be mistaken for another car.
Speaking strictly about design. Yes, the 911 shape has stayed true throughout its entire life. But it also won't be mistaken for another. Its shape is so unmistakable that little kids recognize what I'm driving almost instantly.
Whether one finds it boring is a matter of opinion. The 911 is like a gorgeous woman, IMO. Full of beautiful curves. It's got nice hips and a shapely rear.
About the GTR, whether it's bland or not design wise is opinion. Whether it could be mistaken for another car is another matter. The overall shape & silhouette reminds me of the G35, IMHO.
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- You're crazy if you think
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And that's why the GTR is compared with Ferrari's, Porsche's and many other very high end cars?
Not Skyline based? Aww man.
That's a good bit wider at the least!Maybe this will solve some problems, or just create more:
He never said the car wasn't incredibly fast or not a great value, he just said it wasn't a very soulful car!
911? Too plain? Each to his own, but dang, I've never heard anyone diss a 911
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Not realy seeing it, The V35 has a much rounder design.
because its fast, and some one thats looking for a LF-A. may compare it to the V-spec, that on another level as the normal GTR.
you realy should watch Top gear.
You should have known that, the R35 has a his transmission in the back and two prop shafts. The V36 sedan and coupe obviously not.
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Really? Ok, sure the G35 is not as aggressive and has a cleaner appearance, but I see a lot of resemblance there.
Now, on the other hand, there's no way you're going to mistake this car for anything other than a 911.
Regarding Top Gear, JC explained on the latest UK show on Sunday night, how he feels about Porsche and he doesn't hate them, he just doesn't "get it". Nothing more complicated than that really.
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You, my dear sir, are a man after my own exhaust-clogged heart. 👍 Cut the pretentious electro-wizardry bullshart and lets actually take it out as just car and driver against each other as opposed to just which one has the better computer. Such a pity most of us didn't get near enough time to enjoy it.
Going from my own account now, I learned how to drive better in GT4 through the older muscle cars, without any assistances. Everything has to be more controled and smoother. Braking is earlier, accelleration is gradual. Very frequently you are reminded of that whole "traction circle" theory.
They are possibly one of the best tools in the game at your disposal if you take the time and energy to enjoy the experience. \Concerning the topic at hand: Sorry, agreeing here that the GT-R, while positively brilliant, absolutely competent, and completely stupid fast, is also mind-numbingly dull in its approach. You'd never catch Jackie Ickx, Dan Gurney, Manuel Fangio, Stirling Moss, or any of the Allison's in one.. All of which have driven cars without assistances -- racing cars -- and deffinitely would know the difference. Given $200,000 and told to buy a near-current supercar I'd go for an '03 911 GT3, or even, God forbid, a Corvette.
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You must mean a GT3 AND a Corvette...Or are you keeping the change?
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Does anyone think the GTR suffers from tall-poppy syndrome? I'm a tall-poppy kinda guy, when everyone is on the GTR bandwagon, I tend to get off it and look for something a little more... niche, hehe.
Having said that though, the GTR has already established it's credentials as a legend of the future and I'm sure that everyone here will be looking fondly back on the release of this car and talking to our grandkids saying what a wonderfully fast car it was at the time.
STJ88, nobody here is arguing that the GTR isn't fast or astonishing, some of us are just saying that the purity of the GTR and the spark and passion of the car have been diluted by the over-encumbrance of driver assists. I think in a nutshell, the GTR isn't raw enough for some of us.
The Corvette Z06 in GT5P was/is one of the most exhilarating machines in the game. That symphony of a 427 being belted out through 4 quads at the rear, the astonishing torque and delicate skill required in keeping one of these things on the straight and narrow (even around Daytona) was a heart-in-the-mouth experience and still is. The Chev doesn't like acquaintances with drivers as I soon learned and the more I got to know the car and the more I pushed it, the more the Vette fought back. I still struggle to drive it in it's purest form and there's nothing like pushing the car to 300km/h down the main straight of Fuji. If only the main straight didn't go on forever, because despite my sweaty palms, a part of me cried every time I took my foot off the loud pedal.
I never used to be a real serious late-model Corvette fan. I preferred the old '58s, the early C2's and 350 Fuellies. The last great Corvette for me was the '95 ZR-1.
But the new Z06 reignited my passion for this car, simply because I realised that, unlike certain other cars in GT5P it separated the men from the boys.
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Does anyone think the GTR suffers from tall-poppy syndrome? I'm a tall-poppy kinda guy, when everyone is on the GTR bandwagon, I tend to get off it and look for something a little more... niche, hehe.
Having said that though, the GTR has already established it's credentials as a legend of the future and I'm sure that everyone here will be looking fondly back on the release of this car and talking to our grandkids saying what a wonderfully fast car it was at the time.
STJ88, nobody here is arguing that the GTR isn't fast or astonishing, some of us are just saying that the purity of the GTR and the spark and passion of the car have been diluted by the over-encumbrance of driver assists. I think in a nutshell, the GTR isn't raw enough for some of us.
The Corvette Z06 in GT5P was/is one of the most exhilarating machines in the game. That symphony of a 427 being belted out through 4 quads at the rear, the astonishing torque and delicate skill required in keeping one of these things on the straight and narrow (even around Daytona) was a heart-in-the-mouth experience and still is. The Chev doesn't like acquaintances with drivers as I soon learned and the more I got to know the car and the more I pushed it, the more the Vette fought back. I still struggle to drive it in it's purest form and there's nothing like pushing the car to 300km/h down the main straight of Fuji. If only the main straight didn't go on forever, because despite my sweaty palms, a part of me cried every time I took my foot off the loud pedal.
I never used to be a real serious late-model Corvette fan. I preferred the old '58s, the early C2's and 350 Fuellies. The last great Corvette for me was the '95 ZR-1.
But the new Z06 reignited my passion for this car, simply because I realised that, unlike certain other cars in GT5P it separated the men from the boys.
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I like the oldies, because I am one (61 years old) and I owned one: 1967 Alfa Romeo GT Veloce 1600 - Quadrafolio. GT4 has the 1965 Alfa Romeo GTA 1600, which is the same body style. So a couple years ago when I found a 1969 Alfa GT 1300 Junior (same body style as the GTA), I bought it and rebuilt it. Now I have a cool little car to drive, and run in Solo races on the weekend.
And true to form with GT4, I can practice on the game with an old FX3 steering wheel setup on a fixed recliner chair, and have a good idea how my Junior will handle.
And though a new Subaru will trounce me, I can bet the subey driver would just love to run this thing a couple laps.
It just sounds, feels, and responds differently than any of the new cars. That little DOHC 1290 cc engine just sounds so sweet at 6500 rpm.
No computers. No antilock brakes (4 wheel discs though). Five Speed manual tranny. Two sets of twin Weber 40/28 mm carbs. Four point Klippen racing seatbelts. All Stock. 89 HP 105-130 mph (depending on wind and grade). All fun.
And true to form with GT4, I can practice on the game with an old FX3 steering wheel setup on a fixed recliner chair, and have a good idea how my Junior will handle.
And though a new Subaru will trounce me, I can bet the subey driver would just love to run this thing a couple laps.
It just sounds, feels, and responds differently than any of the new cars. That little DOHC 1290 cc engine just sounds so sweet at 6500 rpm.
No computers. No antilock brakes (4 wheel discs though). Five Speed manual tranny. Two sets of twin Weber 40/28 mm carbs. Four point Klippen racing seatbelts. All Stock. 89 HP 105-130 mph (depending on wind and grade). All fun.
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Upload your picture to this site just below, then once it's loaded you copy and past the link in the "thumbnails for forums 1" bo and you get a picture like the one below.
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Bringing back an oldie here. lol.
Anyway, I'd love to see all the modern cars as well as A LOT of classics. Stuff like old American classics (i.e. Bel Air, Camaro, Mustang, Old Trucks, 20's and 30's stuff, station wagons, EVERYTHING). Pretty much all the stuff in GT4 only more. Euro classics also (Old Beetles, MGs, Porsches, Bugati, Maserati, Ferrari, all the stuff!). Almost all the BIG classics would be great! All of these would put GT5 WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY over the top.
Anyway, I'd love to see all the modern cars as well as A LOT of classics. Stuff like old American classics (i.e. Bel Air, Camaro, Mustang, Old Trucks, 20's and 30's stuff, station wagons, EVERYTHING). Pretty much all the stuff in GT4 only more. Euro classics also (Old Beetles, MGs, Porsches, Bugati, Maserati, Ferrari, all the stuff!). Almost all the BIG classics would be great! All of these would put GT5 WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY over the top.
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also the ford gt and gt 40 and this Bugatti veyron-sang-noir
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