North Korea, Sanctions, and Kim Jong-un

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- Malaysia authorities released Ri Jong Choi today due to insufficient evidence, but will be deported anyways because he lacked valid travel documents. Choi had a work permit that was valid until the 6th of February, 2017.

- The authorities are charging Doan Thi Huong from Vietnam and Siti Aisyah from Indonesia, both of the women involved in Yong Nam's murder, with murder.

- Malaysia investigators are seeking to question several North Koreans, including an embassy official, suspected of being involved with Jong Nam's murder.

- Also today, Malaysia is announcing that it will end visa-free travel for North Koreans, citing security reasons. North Koreans can currently visit Malaysia for up to 30 days without securing a visa, under a reciprocal deal. But according to Deputy Prime Minister Ahmad Zahid Hamidi, the deal will be no more as of Monday, the 6th of March.
 
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North Koreans can currently visit Malaysia for up to 30 days without securing a visa, under a reciprocal deal. But according to Deputy Prime Minister Ahmad Zahid Hamidi, the deal will be no more as of Monday, the 6th of March.
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Not like the people of north korea are allowed to go to malysia any time they want.
 
Grayfox
Not like the people of north korea are allowed to go to malysia any time they want.
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In most countries, you get a visa of a country you want to visit only (if it requires you to get it), but North Koreans also need a visa to leave the country. Which is probably a lot harder to get. Anyway, it was a surprise for me too that Malaysia is visa-free for DPRK. :D
However, it may be that it's not (only) a matter of difficulties getting the exit visa but also of whether an average North Korean can afford such trip.

Touring Mars
Embassy staff, Olympic athletes and secret service assassins to name a few.
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Not only. There are also migrant workers sent by the DPRK government who work for some time then go back with the currency they earn, and spend it at home, which is good for the North Korean economy (a large part of their salary is taken by the government as "loyalty payment"). In Russia, for example, they mostly work on logging (in the forests of Siberia and Far East).

(For reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Koreans_in_Russia)
 
catamount39
At least that's 4 less missles that they have now... :odd:
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Which would only matter if they were aiming for Japan. They were aiming for the sea though so it was just a test. It would still be hilarious if in an act of war their missiles STILL couldn't clear the infinite chasm known as the Sea of Japan.
 
Blitz24
Which would only matter if they were aiming for Japan. They were aiming for the sea though so it was just a test. It would still be hilarious if in an act of war their missiles STILL couldn't clear the infinite chasm known as the Sea of Japan.
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They could get kim to throw the misslies after all he is the all great and powerful Oz Kim
 
Touring Mars
Han-sol could represent a new hope for the alliance of rebels who may wish to topple Kim Jong-Il's empire - it remains to be seen if the empire will strike back and take out this rogue one, though.
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Nam's family has gone into hiding, aided by several different nations.
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
Mercenary/Assassin business must be good in North Korea these days, though I feel like two stooges pulling off a killing via nerve agent is not riveting spy novel stuff.
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The execution is only but part of the story of intrigue I'm sure.
@Touring Mars I see I'm not the only one who couldn't help but read han solo every time I saw that name. I wonder where his wookie is.
 
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Rallywagon
The execution is only but part of the story of intrigue I'm sure.
@Touring Mars I see I'm not the only one who couldn't help but read han solo every time I saw that name. I wonder where his wookie is.
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What's to be intrigued, rogue son of former leader is murdered by now new leader who also happens to be son of former leader. The only interesting portion is that aged nerve agent was used, and was so weak didn't happen to harm anyone else who came along, during the investigation and took some time to actually do its work.

I mean it really tells the dark comedy known as North Korea, even in killing they're sloppy.
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
What's to be intrigued, rogue son of former leader is murdered by now new leader who also happens to be son of former leader. The only interesting portion is that aged nerve agent was used, and was so weak didn't happen to harm anyone else who came along, during the investigation and took some time to actually do its work.

I mean it really tells the dark comedy known as North Korea, even in killing they're sloppy.
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Well, it was effective. I mean they could have failed and killed someone else/themselves/killed nobody.
 
Blitz24
Well, it was effective. I mean they could have failed and killed someone else/themselves/killed nobody.
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It was effective in being a weak dose to eliminate a rouge citizen. There is no evidence that points to it being a threat to others who passed by the same area, or people working the case. At least none that clearly shows (from what I've seen) a potential hazard. Many have said that this dose is weak because it's probably old and at the end of it's lifespan.

As I said I find it sloppy and clearly trying to relay a message perhaps to the world, cause they obviously could have done this killing a number of ways. And picked one of the more cumbersome approaches it could be argued. That's where I find it somewhat funny
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
It was effective in being a weak dose to eliminate a rouge citizen. There is no evidence that points to it being a threat to others who passed by the same area, or people working the case. At least none that clearly shows (from what I've seen) a potential hazard. Many have said that this dose is weak because it's probably old and at the end of it's lifespan.

As I said I find it sloppy and clearly trying to relay a message perhaps to the world, cause they obviously could have done this killing a number of ways. And picked one of the more cumbersome approaches it could be argued. That's where I find it somewhat funny
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Cumbersome? Maybe. Or perhaps clever. First off, it seems you consider North Koreans to be a simple lot that would have trouble tying their shoes. That they would have no idea either the potency of the nerve agent they used, or its half life. I don't believe either would be the case. Further, this isn't just some random rogue despot that escaped from Pyongyang. He was a Kim, he was the PRNK leaders brother. I'm sure a man of no small means, nor any misguided ideas of what his brother would be about. Especially after Kim Jong Un killed their uncle. Nam was, I imaging, trying to keep a very low profile. What better way to assassinate him, than a sneak attack in a mall in a fake prank set up. It's not like Un would care. He sees himself above reproach. He just needed a way to catch his brother off his guard.
The real shame in all of this though, are those that pulled the alleged pranks. If indeed they weren't actually in on the plot, they killed a person thinking it was just a funny gag they were participating in. That would be a terrible pill to have to swallow.
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
It was effective in being a weak dose to eliminate a rouge citizen. There is no evidence that points to it being a threat to others who passed by the same area, or people working the case. At least none that clearly shows (from what I've seen) a potential hazard. Many have said that this dose is weak because it's probably old and at the end of it's lifespan.

As I said I find it sloppy and clearly trying to relay a message perhaps to the world, cause they obviously could have done this killing a number of ways. And picked one of the more cumbersome approaches it could be argued. That's where I find it somewhat funny
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Anti-aircraft gun being used in an airport might cause some alarm to travelers.
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
It was effective in being a weak dose to eliminate a rouge citizen.
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