North Korea, Sanctions, and Kim Jong-un

Would a failed attack look worse for North Korea than even a tiny successful attempt?
 
prisonermonkeys
Don't be so sure of yourself. Knowing North Korea, they'll find a way to keep the missile in a fixed position and fire the earth downwards.
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Should we be more worried that their downward attempt will have the earth hit by a comet?
 
Oh well, we're safe... :lol: If you live in the Shetlands though you might be slightly stuffed!

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PeterJB
So they can allegedly strike the Socialist Republic of Canada but not those decadent Capitalist American pigs.
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Can we just silently put them in a sarcophagus? That way they can see us but any attempt to fire would end up killing themselves?
 
prisonermonkeys
Since they're already completely stuffed, I'd say that being slightly stuffed represents a marked improvement.

I mean, what kind of place is so miserable that even trees refuse to live there?
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So I'm not sure I read this right but the North Korea missile may make it better?
 
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Image captionThe use of solid fuel reduces the time needed to launch the missiles in dispersed tunnels


Comment: Enough of these long-range solid-fuel mobile off-road launchers concealed in tunnels would be major escalation of the North Korean threat to neighboring countries. "Intolerable" is a pretty strong term.
 
Eventhough it's unlikely he was an angel I recon he might have been a less brutal leader than his younger half brother. From the little we know of him he seemed to have been a bit more jovial and laid back. Why do you think he was exiled.

Oh and can you believe one of the alleged female assassin's was wearing a LOL tee shirt :lol:

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Robin.
Eventhough it's unlikely he was an angel I recon he might have been a less brutal leader than his younger half brother.
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He was once quoted as saying that he was against the idea of a third-generation leader. But by that time he was already well out of the sphere of political influence. It's been suggested that China was sizing him up as a potential leader if something should have happened to Jong-un.

Robin.
Why do you think he was exiled.
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He was the one who got caught trying to enter Japan with a fake passport to visit Tokyo Disneyland.
 
prisonermonkeys
He was the one who got caught trying to enter Japan with a fake passport to visit Tokyo Disneyland.
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Yes I know but I meant an incident like that showed his character, the guy just wanted to visit somewhere fun with his family and this normalness about him would have probably benefited NK over what they ended up with.

EDIT - Malaysian authorities have just arrested a female suspect.
 
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As if it were not already quite clear, Kim Jong-un is every bit as brutal and paranoid (if not considerably more so) that his predecessors, and murdering his own family is not beyond him, as evinced by him bumping off his uncle a few years ago.

I think the idea that Kim Jong-un (or, perhaps more accurately, his regime) is worried about an imminent overthrow is very credible, and is a likely explanation for why he/they ordered this execution.
 
Touring Mars
I think the idea that Kim Jong-un (or, perhaps more accurately, his regime) is worried about an imminent overthrow is very credible, and is a likely explanation for why he/they ordered this execution.
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Possibly, but a lot of the analysis that I have seen suggests that while the murder of Jong-nam was not unexpected, the timing caught everyone by surprise. By all accounts, Jong-nam posed little threat to Jong-un, and had even less desire to usurp him.

That said, the seventy-fifth anniversary of North Korea's founding is fast approaching, and Jong-un might have wanted a show of solidarity to go alongside the missile testing and gymnastics displays that usually mark these occasions. Jong-nam was Jong-un's older brother, and in Korean culture, the father's legacy passes on to the older brother. Even if Jong-nam wanted no part of it, it seems to have been a burr under Jong-un's saddle. Killing him might have been intend to be a way of demonstrating that he was the worthy son, especially with a major anniversary on the horizon.
 
prisonermonkeys
It's been suggested that China was sizing him up as a potential leader if something should have happened to Jong-un.
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I'm pretty sure I've already said in this thread that I believe that China would move to "help" NK if the right crisis presented itself... NK moving towards nuclear war would be that crisis. What I hadn't considered was how the leadership might work, a proper puppet would be good for everybody and allow China to act far more "peacefully".
 
TenEightyOne
I'm pretty sure I've already said in this thread that I believe that China would move to "help" NK if the right crisis presented itself... NK moving towards nuclear war would be that crisis. What I hadn't considered was how the leadership might work, a proper puppet would be good for everybody and allow China to act far more "peacefully".
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On that tangent, Jong-nam was probably assassinated because he was being groomed by the Chinese to take over NK if something happened to Jong-Un, that something being the Chinese's own making because of how volatile the leader is acting right now. The assassination has probably forced the Chinese to work with Jong-un for the foreseeable future.

The last son of Kim Jong Il is probably next on the list, Kim Jong-Chul, that is if the Chinese hasn't already whisked him away for head of state training.
 

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