North Korea, Sanctions, and Kim Jong-un

[Dotini]

Weren't there attempts to kill Castro with poisoned cigars and exploding molluscs? Or are they just urban legends?

There were at the very least 8 attempts and as many as 638 schemes and actual attempts, according to wikipedia. IMO, the first few during the Kennedy administration provided all the motivation and justification needed for the revenge assassination of JFK.

Castro began his rise to power beginning in the very early 50's. According to my sources, a key figure supporting him began considering the assassination of the US president as the US administration began acting to thwart Castro's ambitions against the US satraps, Fulgencio Batista. A proposal to assassinate Eisenhower was submitted to Castro, but it was ruled out on the grounds that he was too politically popular and that his assassination would be unlikely to be successfully connected by the American people to US meddling in Cuba and Latin America.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_attempts_on_Fidel_Castro
The Church Committee stated that it substantiated eight attempts by the CIA to assassinate Fidel Castro in 1960–1965.[2]:71 Fabián Escalante, a retired chief of Cuba's counterintelligence, who had been tasked with protecting Castro, estimated the number of assassination schemes or actual attempts by the Central Intelligence Agency to be 638, and split them among U.S. administrations as follows:[10][11]

 

[JKgo]

Or "fart", or "potty", to roughly translate two superpower leaders

....I get the second one but may need an explanation on the first one.

Also, I just realized that the second place in that opinion poll is named Ahn Cheol-soo from The People's Party. Besides the name of the party sounding a bit Commie-ish, the dude's name can be translated as "No Retreat!!"

Soooo, you got yourself a choice between a problem child and a guy with an aversion towards retreating, as far as their names allude to. Great to be a Korean voter right about now, I'm sure.

 

[Northstar]

....I get the second one but may need an explanation on the first one.

"Trump" is a slang term for farting, 12 year olds, or people with the maturity level of 12 year olds can't get over this fact apparently. Oddly this is often pointed out by people that go crazy if you make fun of someone for how they were born.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

I get the second one but may need an explanation on the first one

When used as a verb, "trump" is British slang for farting.

 

[Imari]

It's all the same thing. State worship.

Yep. And Christians are the same as Muslims. All the same thing.

"Trump" is a slang term for farting, 12 year olds, or people with the maturity level of 12 year olds can't get over this fact apparently. Oddly this is often pointed out by people that go crazy if you make fun of someone for how they were born.

You don't find fart jokes funny? I'm inordinately suspicious of people who don't find "pull my finger" hilarious.

 

[TenEightyOne]

"Trump" is a slang term for farting, 12 year olds, or people with the maturity level of 12 year olds can't get over this fact apparently.

It's slang across all ranges of British English, in fact it used to be that many older people would use it rather than the more vulgar "fart". OED: to break wind audibly.

Now, pull my finger...

 

[JKgo]

It's slang across all ranges of British English, in fact it used to be that many older people would use it rather than the more vulgar "fart". OED: to break wind audibly.

Now, pull my finger...

"Trump" is a slang term for farting, 12 year olds, or people with the maturity level of 12 year olds can't get over this fact apparently. Oddly this is often pointed out by people that go crazy if you make fun of someone for how they were born.

When used as a verb, "trump" is British slang for farting.

...I don't confess to possessing an encyclopedic knowledge of the Queen's Tongue, but gotta say, first time I've come across Trump = letting gas. Somewhat fitting, too, seeing that Mr. Trump is known to be full of hot air now and then....

 

[ryzno]

...I don't confess to possessing an encyclopedic knowledge of the Queen's Tongue, but gotta say, first time I've come across Trump = letting gas. Somewhat fitting, too, seeing that Mr. Trump is known to be full of hot air now and then....

How did you miss the election thread. They pounced on the opportunity.

 

[JKgo]

How did you miss the election thread. They pounced on the opportunity.

...I treat most electioneering process with enough disdain to fill an Olympic regulation swimming pool. Been burned one too many times with all 'em empty promises and such by the snake oil salesmen aka politicians. So, didn't bother entering that particular thread. Couldn't be arsed to click through hundreds and hundreds of posts either, as well.

 

[TRGTspecialist]

Ten-Ate-Anyone has a nervous proclivity to dream up anal or fecal nonsense material when it suits his mysterious purposes.

"Trump" is a slang term for farting, 12 year olds, or people with the maturity level of 12 year olds can't get over this fact apparently.

Be fair to @TenEightyOne - what would you expect from one old fart to another?

 

[Obelisk]

Why is this thread about farting now?

 

[Dotini]

Be fair to @TenEightyOne - what would you expect from one old fart to another?

I may be "an old fart", but as a student of the art and science of fencing, I am required to practice tact, composure, respect, patience, knowledge and discernment. Believe it or not, I even try to practice it here in this forum.

While waiting impatiently for the shooting to start in Korea, it appears that the thread has descended into scatology.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

it appears that the thread has descended into scatology.

An apt observation on the situation in Korea.

 

[Dotini]

An apt observation on the situation in Korea.

Funny yes, analogous maybe, but not strictly apt. In brief, there is no shooting, but plenty of "diplomacy, economic sanctions", big talk, and threatening bluster. "Here we sit, broken-hearted. Came to ****, but only farted".

 

[Obelisk]

I just... This thread got kinda funny.

 

[Omnis]

No, it really wasn't.

Religion was introduced to the conversation here:



You responded to that here:



Having addressed Dotini's original thought, you continued on:



It's not 100% clear to me whether that was a vaguely worded continuation of your reply to the question of animism, or a new statement specific to the lack of Abrahamic faith in North Korea.

Had you used god instead of God, I could have fairly confidently assumed the former. But you didn't, and it left open the possibility of the latter.



Capitalizing (or not capitalizing) the word "god" has implications. Languages work best when people follow those conventions.

Not following those conventions introduces uncertainty, and it's fair game to ask for clarification.

You'll notice I even allowed that I was reading it wrong:



Oh, how smug of me!

And as far as what's sophomoric around here, it's your ad hominem post.

When you capitalize the word God, you're probably using a smartphone. Even SwiftKey knows there's no difference between God and god, since we are taking about the idea of a divine figure, which is logically equivalent whether Abrahamic or voodoo-jujurific. Further, I just finished a point on animism, including the pantheist outgrowth of the singular notion of the divine, in case you were really confused.
This is not the appropriate setting to go crazy on what is meant by the word God. You need to chill with those Maher-Dawkinsite reflexes.

The point is that the cult of Communism and the romantic state and it's figures have displaced the spiritual life of that land. That is what the unenlightened masses know.

 

[mustafur]

Communism is an Economic Policy, not sure what Cold War era red scare philosophy your talking about.

 

[LeMansAid]

Communism is an Economic Policy, not sure what Cold War era red scare philosophy your talking about.

Don't overthink it, just play. It's like a machine where if you push the right buttons it swears at you, hilariously. These machines initially present as tough units, but actually break down quite readily.

Hitting the "RIP Castro" button seems to get things moving.

 

[Imari]

The point is that the cult of Communism and the romantic state and it's figures have displaced the spiritual life of that land.

It being impossible to have a spiritual life without God? Sure.

 

[Obelisk]

I'm pretty sure you can still lead a spiritual life without having a God.

Also, Communism is strictly an economic belief of equal distribution of wealth. I.E. everyone gets X amount of money.

What North Korea has done is try to implement this economic concept, and then use brain-washing to manipulate its citizens. It has basically created a cult based on the Kim family line on top of that.

 

[Grayfox]

It being impossible to have a spiritual life without God? Sure.

The people of NK worship kimmy but he aint no god, demi god, or any deity.

If anything he is like a Goa'uld.

False god, soon to be dead false god.

 

[Imari]

What North Korea has done is try to implement this economic concept, and then use brain-washing to manipulate its citizens.

Seeing the stuff that goes on in the media and politics these days, I'm not even sure what happens in NK counts as brain washing any more. More like standard propaganda.

 

[FoRiZon]

Seeing the stuff that goes on in the media and politics these days, I'm not even sure what happens in NK counts as brain washing any more. More like standard propaganda.

Some propaganda are more anvilicious and misleading than others.

NK did a really good job, though.

 

[polysmut]

Is it the case that the population just pretends to be brainwashed, out of fear?

 

[Imari]

Is it the case that the population just pretends to be brainwashed, out of fear?

Doesn't work long term. Stockholm Syndrome.

 

[huskeR32]

This is not the appropriate setting to go crazy on what is meant by the word God. You need to chill with those Maher-Dawkinsite reflexes.

I asked a couple questions in order to gain some clarification of what you were saying. How exactly is does that constitute "go(ing) crazy" or needing to "chill?" What exactly do you suggest that people do when they have questions, if simply asking them isn't chill enough for you?

As far as what's "appropriate," I'll accept such suggestions from the staff, if they wish to issue them. From you? No thanks.

The point is that the cult of Communism and the romantic state and it's figures have displaced the spiritual life of that land. That is what the unenlightened masses know.

Now I have the clarification I sought. Thanks.

 

[Dotini]

I asked a couple questions in order to gain some clarification of what you were saying. How exactly is does that constitute "go(ing) crazy" or needing to "chill?" What exactly do you suggest that people do when they have questions, if simply asking them isn't chill enough for you?

As far as what's "appropriate," I'll accept such suggestions from the staff, if they wish to issue them. From you? No thanks.



Now I have the clarification I sought. Thanks.

FYI, if I were you, I wouldn't buy into the rather facile notion that the spiritual life of North Korean peasantry has been entirely displaced by Communist state propaganda.

 

[huskeR32]

FYI, if I were you, I wouldn't buy into the rather facile notion that the spiritual life of North Korean peasantry has been entirely displaced by Communist state propaganda.

Oh, I don't.

I'd wager that religion is fairly widespread among the peasantry, and that their seeming acceptance of Kim as some sort of a deity is nothing more than practicality. Keep your head down, practice your faith within your community of fellow believers, don't pick a fight you can't win.

 

[Peter.]

So I was thinking, with the history of the US being no slouch when it comes to taking action beyond its borders if US currency is involved in illegal business(see FIFA) and North Korea's history of laundering US money, etc. Why have the US not used that at grounds to step in and cut the head off the snake?

 

[Grayfox]

So I was thinking, with the history of the US being no slouch when it comes to taking action beyond its borders if US currency is involved in illegal business(see FIFA) and North Korea's history of laundering US money, etc. Why have the US not used that at grounds to step in and cut the head off the snake?

This is a well hidden snake that has mental problems.
If America did this they would retaliate and attack south korea.