- 1,759
- Fazerfan's home
GTP_CargoRatWell then you are not truely understanding what you read or the people you are getting it from are mis-informed aswell or just not telling the whole story. I find it best that if you don't know things for a fact yourself, rather than keeping the mis-informed train rolling, just not say nothing at all.
If you are stealing DLC, then this should be a ban.
this +2:tup:
Just saying... Just because I don't know because I have not been banned. But i have heard of many ways to get back online after you have been banned.
Also I don't know if you know this or not. There are many different types of bans that can be issued not just the console bann I hope you know that. So if people find ways around those different types of bans then that isn't hard to believe.
I mean i can't post exact link on which I got this information for proof. It is against the AUP because the same link will bring you to where you actually download the software to make the hybrids. So i mean you can listen to what I am saying and the fact that others have confirmed this. Or you can choose to not believe me. But like I have said I am going by what these people (makers/testers of the software) have said.
And trust me I thought too that if you do get banned you are banned. But it has to come directly from Sony (via console bann) for you to be completely banned.
If you are stealing DLC, then this should be a ban.
Do you know for a fact that there are different types of bans. And I'm not talking about what Joe Smo says on another forum. The fact is, no one except Sony/PD knows exactly how this banning process works. People can test and speculate all they want, but the fact remains no one knows for sure.
Getting back to why I originally posted here. I do know, as it is only common sense, that you simply can't just reload your original gamesave after being banned and be back and running again. It just does not work like that. There are other things involved. If what you are trying to say is true, then that would mean they are banning the items in your gamesave, so just reload a gamesave with no hacked items. Doesn't work like that, sorry. There are other things involved. That is hardly the case. In PD's vague notifacation, they stated accounts, not items in your garage. See how silly what you are saying sounds? When they ban someone, they have to ban you by IP Address, Console ID, or some other physical means. They are not going to ban you by your little 10,000 HP Redbull. They may ban you because of it, but they are not going to ban you by it. Do you understand now?
If you are stealing DLC, then this should be a ban.
GTP_CargoRatDo you know for a fact that there are different types of bans. And I'm not talking about what Joe Smo says on another forum. The fact is, no one except Sony/PD knows exactly how this banning process works. People can test and speculate all they want, but the fact remains no one knows for sure.
Getting back to why I originally posted here. I do know, as it is only common sense, that you simply can't just reload your original gamesave after being banned and be back and running again. It just does not work like that. There are other things involved. If what you are trying to say is true, then that would mean they are banning the items in your gamesave, so just reload a gamesave with no hacked items. Doesn't work like that, sorry. There are other things involved. That is hardly the case. In PD's vague notifacation, they stated accounts, not items in your garage. See how silly what you are saying sounds? When they ban someone, they have to ban you by IP Address, Console ID, or some other physical means. They are not going to ban you by your little 10,000 HP Redbull. They may ban you because of it, but they are not going to ban you by it. Do you understand now?
GTP_CargoRatIt would be much wiser for Sony/PD to go after the people creating these apps that enable people to steal the DLC. Without such apps, problem solved. Thats where Sony/PD are making their mistake. If they are so worried about all this hybridding going on, don't waste time banning people. Go after the people creating the software that is enabling all this to keep going on. Otherwise, their just fighting a losing battle. They are going about this bass ackwards.
WWE907What if you don't use hacked/modded cars online period? Is that okay? How about if you have oh, say, a little over 4 billion dollars? Could I get banned for that?
Would they be able to find and identify the people who created it?
GTP_CargoRatWell, if I can go online and find the apps, why can't they? As far as identifiing the people, that is pretty easy for them to do too. There are many ways, with the proper tools and tech, to find out who you are online. Oh yes, they can give false details when registering to the website that they are members of, but no matter what you do online, it is always going to be attached to some physical address, or place by the computer you are using.
Forgive me if I misunderstand, but isn't that effectively stealing DLC?
It would be much wiser for Sony/PD to go after the people creating these apps that enable people to steal the DLC. Without such apps, problem solved. Thats where Sony/PD are making their mistake. If they are so worried about all this hybridding going on, don't waste time banning people. Go after the people creating the software that is enabling all this to keep going on. Otherwise, their just fighting a losing battle. They are going about this bass ackwards.
No not for that.
For upping your money the PD ninjas come for you.
I have already bought the Paint Pack twice.
... When they ban someone, they have to ban you by IP Address, Console ID, or some other physical means. ...
It's not rocket science. (This wasn't directed at you Mitch - it was for all the people asking the same questions again and again)MePD can ban you from online events by flagging your save game with a ban notice. It's written into the savegame code as you are playing the game. This has nothing to do with PSN or Sony. It (the code) is identified on PD's servers and you are refused a connection. Your username is also blacklisted (on their servers).
To get around this you make a new username and import your old save game, having used an editor on your PC to change the save game's userID and remove the banning flag (remove the ban code). Then you have a new username with your old save game intact and PD's servers still love you.
GTP_CargoRatLook guys, all I'm trying to say here is there is some bad information being passed along here in this thread. Like telling someone that they are safe online with their hybrids as long as they are in a private lobby. Not true. It may private to other players, but it is certainly not private to Sony/PD. Like I said, no one knows exactly how this banning process works or even if it will change in the future. Yes, testing the waters may give you an idea, but it is not going to show you the whole picture. If you are into your hybrids and don't want to be banned, simply keep them offline unless you are willing to take the chance of being banned. And yes, I know there are ways around the banning process, but that may not be always the case. Lets not forget who is ultimately in control here....its not us. It also depends on how far Sony/PD is willing to go in fighting this whole ordeal. They are not being very smart about it at this point tho, I'll tell yea that. Bottom line, enjoy your hybrids if thats what you like, just be careful what you do with them. Also, don't steal paid DLC, thats where I have to draw the line on this whole thing.
SirAlanCliveI posted this a 100 or so posts ago, and I get insulted when everyone ignores it. This is how PD's online ban works. It is not associated with your machine and does not affect PSN. I know this from reading the NGU forums and from being a programmer myself:
It's not rocket science. (This wasn't directed at you Mitch - it was for all the people asking the same questions again and again)
It would be much wiser for Sony/PD to go after the people creating these apps that enable people to steal the DLC. Without such apps, problem solved. Thats where Sony/PD are making their mistake. If they are so worried about all this hybridding going on, don't waste time banning people. Go after the people creating the software that is enabling all this to keep going on. Otherwise, their just fighting a losing battle. They are going about this bass ackwards.
chug-a-bugHow many people have actually been prosecuted for hacking a game? Sony only sued George Hotz for jailbreaking the PS3 OS, which is about as serious an "offence" possible with a PS3 and even then they came to a settlement with him and he avoided jail. Geohot may have stopped hacking the PS3 but it hasn't stopped others.
The point is, once it's out there, its out there. Where one leads, others will follow. Shutting the stable door once the horse has bolted is pointless honestly.
Thats why measures taken against reverse engineering usually involve encryption and obfuscation rather than prosecution. Think about it, it took nearly 3 years for the encryption to be broken and modding to break out on piece of software, thats pretty good by any developers standards. I'm guessing that the revenue stream of GT5 is pretty small by this point and they're probably much to preoccupied with GT6 to give it a great deal of consideration other than banning those caught cheating.
Ills1999That looks like it could be a lot of fun. Thanks for digging.