Notice of Account Ban measures

[watermelon punch]

I think they were talking about people that ban you for no reason what so ever or try to report you for the sake of reporting you.

Yeah I realize that could happen, I posted such earlier in the thread:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=8351894#post8351894
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=8351974#post8351974

Point being... even if it is "sour grapes" over something else... if they then find you're breaking official rules somehow else, you don't really have a leg to stand on.
If someone reports you for hacking, however... well, it is stated that it's against the rules. Not everyone might agree that people should be so strictly interpreting that, it's a matter of opinion that... but it is against the official notice. So some people might interpret that as that it's not a petty issue to report.

My guess is they must have some way of determining good reporting from superfluous reporting.
Because as I said before, I have heard of people getting their PSN IDs shut off (banned or whatever) from what sounded like it amounted to griefing behaviour in pub lobby racing... which how do they determine that was actually the case?
Seems to me finding out if someone's using hacks might be just as easy to determine, if not easier.
I don't know if it is. But it does seem likely considering on many other online games I've played over the years - including many years ago... The server admins seemed to somehow find out who was botting... even when they were not online. They'd report trying to sign on the next time and not being able to... stuff like that. How did they know? I don't know.

EDIT: Though I will say to people who want to play with their friends - that OF COURSE using private lounges with your friends is probably the safest option. And it's doubtful in that situation anyone would bother reporting you obviously.
(My guess is that, outside of Time Trials cheating, the people most at risk would be the ones who use hacked cars for some type of griefing purposes among strangers. Worse if you can't take a hint and harass someone after they kick you for griefing. That would probably be the most risky - WITH OR WITHOUT hacked cars. )

Append:
oh I missed this:

I feel dumb now .... I was host today for a lobby (VERY rare occasion) and i remeber seeing that, cause i almost clicked on it instead of reject... Cannot believe i didnt remember that.

Thanks for your help, also 👍

that's funny because that's how I first noticed the Report option... when I nearly used it instead of "Reject" as host in a lobby. This was quite awhile ago.
But I thought geez it shouldn't be so similar a word, because it would be easy to hit the wrong one by mistake.

 

[OwensRacing]

That report button should only be used to ban with investigation. As in seeing a replay of what prompted it. One sided reports creating a ban is complete hogwash.

As mentioned what if you get that sore loser that you smoked and he reports you over a bogus thing.

I'd like to think there is more to it then just clicking report and getting an account banned. Like multiple instances then some communication.

Hard saying what criteria is used to determine a ban. Either from report or hybrids.

Maybe that report on the PSN website is where it really matters. Watermelon mentioned it.

 

[watermelon punch]

That report button should only be used to ban with investigation. As in seeing a replay of what prompted it. One sided reports creating a ban is complete hogwash.

As mentioned what if you get that sore loser that you smoked and he reports you over a bogus thing.

I'd like to think there is more to it then just clicking report and getting an account banned. Like multiple instances then some communication.

Hard saying what criteria is used to determine a ban. Either from report or hybrids.

Maybe that report on the PSN website is where it really matters. Watermelon mentioned it.

That's what I said, there has to be some way they confirm it.
After all, I almost hit it a few times by mistake when rejecting people for just being AFK too long in a full lobby. That alone must happen sometimes.

I still think the easiest way to get banned is just being an out & out griefer... using hybrids or not, though using some kind of weird hack to grief, I'm convinced, is going to attract a lot more attention than just being a general 🤬 in some random lobby.

On the PSN web site Grief Reporting form... I didn't take a good look at it but I think you can report details. I do NOT know if that's the case from the in-lobby report option, as I've never actually pressed it.
But I think someone here mentioned having "tested" the report option, and described it as just simply hitting it and that's it.

 

[No Name Drift]

I think the report button in gt5 doesn't matter if only 1 person hit it. PD gets many of those reports so i think first they ban that people with 10 reports or more i think. So all the hackers who are in a lobby with friends which isn't private don't get reported so fast from other guys which are no hackers. But if a hacker goes in a lobby without any other hackers i think they won't report them. I think they just kick him out of a lobby. And if a guy who don't hack a lobby join where are many hackers they will leave again and don't report them all. And so most of the hackers are being save.

Hope you understand what i mean...

 

[Com Fox]

I think the report button in gt5 doesn't matter if only 1 person hit it. PD gets many of those reports so i think first they ban that people with 10 reports or more i think. So all the hackers who are in a lobby with friends which isn't private don't get reported so fast from other guys which are no hackers. But if a hacker goes in a lobby without any other hackers i think they won't report them. I think they just kick him out of a lobby. And if a guy who don't hack a lobby join where are many hackers they will leave again and don't report them all. And so most of the hackers are being save.

Hope you understand what i mean...

I get it .
Lucky there isn't any false-reporter's, instead there are kicker's

 

[Jaywalker]

Im done with this thread -.-

*grabs popcorn*

You basically Reposted the same thing i posted couple pages ago.

In order

And no, I didn't...

 

[ryzno]

So after reading 38 pages of nothing but debates and skepticism has anyone been banned yet?

 

[Lock2Lock]

So after reading 38 pages of nothing but debates and skepticism has anyone been banned yet?

A few people actually. But once they reloaded their none hacked save data they are back

 

[MSTER232]

A few people actually. But once they reloaded their none hacked save data they are back

So if you were hacking and you get banned, but you load your data that hasn't been hacked, the ban will be lifted off of you?

 

[Lock2Lock]

So if you were hacking and you get banned, but you load your data that hasn't been hacked, the ban will be lifted off of you?

That's what a few people on here/other sites have said

 

[LeadFootLiam]

So, what if I just want to hack the colours? Like I want to be able to used the piants from the piant pack on more than one car. My hack program allows you to choose any of the colours from the Piant Pack DLC, can I just change the piant, no engine hack, chassis hack etc? Or will I get banned?

 

[Lock2Lock]

So, what if I just want to hack the colours? Like I want to be able to used the piants from the piant pack on more than one car. My hack program allows you to choose any of the colours from the Piant Pack DLC, can I just change the piant, no engine hack, chassis hack etc? Or will I get banned?

I wouldn't worry about it. It has only been in a few scenarios. I haven't heard of anyone doing what you are doing get banned yet.

 

[Johnnypenso]

A few people actually. But once they reloaded their none hacked save data they are back

So if you were hacking and you get banned, but you load your data that hasn't been hacked, the ban will be lifted off of you?

I don't believe that's accurate. The ban would go with your PSN ID, no matter what date of save you had, not what's in your garage, otherwise thousands of us would be out of luck for going online with hybrids. They probably used some tool or workaround and reloaded their save under another PSN ID to keep all their stuff and still be online. A different PSN ID on the same PS3 would still be able to access the servers.

 

[LeadFootLiam]

I wouldn't worry about it. It has only been in a few scenarios. I haven't heard of anyone doing what you are doing get banned yet.

Okay, because the polarized colours are awesome, so I should be able to do it? And enter seasonal events? Without getting banned?

 

[Lock2Lock]

I don't believe that's accurate. The ban would go with your PSN ID, no matter what date of save you had, not what's in your garage, otherwise thousands of us would be out of luck for going online with hybrids. They probably used some tool or workaround and reloaded their save under another PSN ID to keep all their stuff and still be online. A different PSN ID on the same PS3 would still be able to access the servers.

Just going by people on NGU and the few people that have posted things like this

well i got banned today for using hacked cars but to bad im thick headed and exploited my gave save and now im back on

yeah happened to a friend that doest go online today as well he got a hacked car from another friend of mine and got banned

Lucky for me i caught it right when it happend and had my origial save still on my cpu. other wise i would have been screewed

No i dont even bother with seasonal races in general but i was in a room full of other people with hacked cars today we all got banned it wasnt just me. Im sure its cause we got reported cause none of us was responding to people's usual can i get a hacked car or would we trade. as for my friend he say he dont even go online at all but that could be a lie. But im sure i been on there list for members to ban i been exploiting game saves since i started playing the game last april

so let me be the first to say just recieving a hacked car or being online in a lobby with one could get you banned. If you dont have a game save from before you started hacking or recieving hacked cars you could be next

Most people i know thats been banned profile has been set back to day one and no cars or content. me and two other people were just blocked from PSN online and i think the difference is based on if you have done some sort of online race or seasonal race with a hacked car. Im not sure what they look for to tell if a cars been hacked but i have noticed that friends i sent hacked cars that are really close to stock or are only slammed have pretty much gone where ever they want and do whatever they want with them and nothing happend

.... have said. Multiple people have confirmed the same thing on NGU.

I mean if you don't believe the people on here I would at least believe the people on that Site.

Also others have confirmed many ways through trial and error to test out when the bann applies. Until I get banned myself and try it out I will just rely on what these people are stating.


Also it isn't always a console bann/account bann.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Just fyi, once you are banned, its not as easy as popping in an old gamesave and getting back on. That is the silliest thing I have heard and makes no sense at all. Lets use some common sense here. There are other things involved in getting yourself un-banned. If you don't believe me, then I can get a member of the staff in here and he will tell you the same thing.

 

[Lock2Lock]

Just fyi, once you are banned, its not as easy as popping in an old gamesave and getting back on. That is the silliest thing I have heard and makes no sense at all. Lets use some common sense here. There are other things involved in getting yourself un-banned. If you don't believe me, then I can get a member of the staff in here and he will tell you the same thing.

Like i said don't quote me on it. I am just going by what many have said that know more about it than I do.

 

[Ills1999]

So is it possible for a group of gamers to play GT5 online without logging into PSN?

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Like i said don't quote me on it. I am just going by what many have said that know more about it than I do.

Well then you are not truely understanding what you read or the people you are getting it from are mis-informed aswell or just not telling the whole story. I find it best that if you don't know things for a fact yourself, rather than keeping the mis-informed train rolling, just not say nothing at all.

 

[Hei]

Lan maybe.

 

[Ills1999]

Lan maybe.

Thanks.

 

[rams1de]

So, what if I just want to hack the colours? Like I want to be able to used the piants from the piant pack on more than one car. My hack program allows you to choose any of the colours from the Piant Pack DLC, can I just change the piant, no engine hack, chassis hack etc? Or will I get banned?

Forgive me if I misunderstand, but isn't that effectively stealing DLC?

 

[Ills1999]

Forgive me if I misunderstand, but isn't that effectively stealing DLC?

If I were on his jury, I'd never vote to convict.

 

[OwensRacing]

Forgive me if I misunderstand, but isn't that effectively stealing DLC?

You are correct in your understanding. This also is IMO way different level then the hybrids.

 

[ryzno]

So is it possible for a group of gamers to play GT5 online without logging into PSN?

Lan maybe.

Im not sure, but, I believe Famine said somewhere, that you cant use LAN on the PS3

 

[Ills1999]

Im not sure, but, I believe Famine said somewhere, that you cant use LAN on the PS3

A little too monopolistic for my tastes.

 

[KiroKai]

Just fyi, once you are banned, its not as easy as popping in an old gamesave and getting back on. That is the silliest thing I have heard and makes no sense at all. Lets use some common sense here. There are other things involved in getting yourself un-banned. If you don't believe me, then I can get a member of the staff in here and he will tell you the same thing.

Getting un-banned is as easy as reassigning your save file to another account on your PS3 (just requires a tool you'll find through a google search). They ban your ID but leave no trace in your save file, so with another/a new PSN you'll be able to sign in and play GT5 online again.

 

[ryzno]

A little too monopolistic for my tastes.

I stand corrected. Read this and this. Seems possible:tup:

 

[iainoflo85]

Getting un-banned is as easy as reassigning your save file to another account on your PS3 (just requires a tool you'll find through a google search). They ban your ID but leave no trace in your save file, so with another/a new PSN you'll be able to sign in and play GT5 online again.

This.

It's the only (maybe not, but it's simple) workaround and takes 2 minutes if you already have a backup account, or 10 minutes if you need to create a new one.

For anyone unclear what this means - it's just using your save file on another account by changing the PSN ID attached to it.

 

[Kitten]

If you are stealing DLC, then this should be a ban.