Notice of Account Ban measures

[ItsAllAboutWins]

Same here. I found the program online and saw how easy it would be to hack a car, but I have no interest in doing so. Especially if it does make the car specs 'more realistic'

Jerome

I saw videos on YouTube in related searches to gt5 but I never took incentive to find one. I think anyone who gets banned can't say they didn't see it coming. You're talking about hacking one of Sony's prized babies. People think they'd let it slide?

 

[MustangManiac]

How is a hybrid software piracy?

Because of this:

You must not copy, modify, adapt, distribute, publish, sell, licence or transfer all or any part of the application to anyone else and you must not use the application for any commercial purpose.

Key words in answer to your question, modify and adapt. It is called IP law, what most people do not understand is that you do not "own" the software you purchase, you license the right to use it in compliance with the EULA that comes with it.

 

[Reidy_17]

gt5 has just got boring again , apart from the ones who hacked there cars with over 20,000 bhp lol , but a engine change and a drive train swap lol don't see what the fuss is about.

 

[ripcurl]

If you have been banned, vent our your anger here (within the forums guidelines)

I was caught cheating, now I am mad.

 

[Danny]

If you have been banned, vent our your anger here (within the forums guidelines)

I can't really see this going anywhere positive, though...

 

[Lock2Lock]

You may not alter amend or change the product even if it is for your own use!!!!......What is it that is so hard to understand?

The property rights and copyright for the PS3 AND ALL SOFTWARE belong with the producers. There is never a circumstance where you are entitled to change those products under any circumstances.

Hope that is clear enough for you!

No it doesn't actually. And if you really want to get into this subject I am up for the challenge. So please can you elaborate on the jailbreak topic I mentioned earlier?
They are not bricked/they still work.
If what you are saying is true then the previous jailbreak (the one that was recently patch with the last Sony PS3 update) that means that anyone found that has their PS3s jailbroken when the system was updated would no longer be able to do anything on there system anymore (as in bricked) and would be fined/getting ready to be sued.

But no the last version of the jailbreak (which there has been in think three since the trial with George Hotz (aka Geohot).
Everytime Sony patches this with a system update the systems are simply blocked from going online and that is the only action that is ever done. They still work then a few months later someone breaks back in then Sony releases a new update to block them again. So with that said you tell me why they wouldn't brick your system totally.
Even in a case of credit card fraud on PSN.
Which in a case of a good friend of mine he got a divorce. The relationship ended badly I mean bad. His wife's credit card was on his PS3. Basically his wife called Sony and told them that someone had been using her credit card to purchase content on the PSN store. In result they banned his account. They didn't brick his PS3 simply banned his account.
Which one is worse doesn't matter just a example.

My experience of dealing with software piracy over the last 35 years!!!

I am not trying to insult you or anything trust me I am not. Not challenging your knowledge/experience but I am telling you that they will not do anything besides bann your PS3 from logging onto PSN or bann your account.

You can either take my word for it or don't. I honestly do not care of argueing the TOS on the PS3 system. Because just to say you do hybrid a car and they decide to take action against you. Only thing will happen is either you will be blocked from signing into PSN or you will be banned from online features within the game at hand.

Take my word for it or not. I don't have to prove it to you just look up the facts about the repeated jailbroken PS3s getting blocked over the last year and tell me that it is against the law/TOS to modify your system or game offline.

 

[ripcurl]

Does that mean the Hybrid Section on here(GTP) is now "illegal" based on these recent news reports?

 

[mattythedog]

I can't really see this going anywhere positive, though...

And, to be honest, it's their fault for doing it in the first place.

 

[Johnnypenso]

OK, people banned.

Did they fix online lobbies, which is probably simpler than banning, or are they still broken?

I'm finding it hard to feel good about this. It feels more like nothing has happened.

According to the Holy word from above, I should be toast, burnt toast in fact. Since I started hybriding, I've driven nothing else for 10 days now. Mostly in my own lobby or in the lobby of an online buddy that's cool with hybriding. According to this:

We have recently confirmed usage of illicitly modified game data in the online services of Gran Turismo 5, and the relevant accounts have now been banned from the service.
Hereafter, these Online ID's in question will no longer be able to access the online portion of Gran Turismo 5.

...I should not be online, and yet I am with no problems. Entered 2 different lobbies, had no problems at all.

I suspect they are just looking at TT's and other official events and could give a rat's patootie about the rest of the game, online or off. Seeing as how the last two TT's had cars provided, this can only mean the recent use of hybrids in the Drift Trials. The next couple of days will confirm this, or not, but if I had to bet, and I would if I could, my money would lay on business as usual, keep them out of official PD events, carry on regardless.

I think your suspicions are right Ex, it's just a warning shot over the bow and nothing has really changed. What was really needed was a simple update, allowing hybrids or not in open lobbies, problem solved, but that's too much work I guess.

 

[Johnnypenso]

I can't really see this going anywhere positive, though...

That's up to the participants isn't it?.

I was a late convert to hybrids and it revived my interest in a game I barely played anymore. I got caught up in the hysteria of cars breaking the PP system, but when I delved into it, I found the PP system actually worked in keeping all but the crazy HP cars under control. I've driven nothing but hybrids for 10 days, couple dozen of them online. Going by the wording in the release from Sony/PD, I should be banned, and yet I just signed in online, and went into a couple of lobbies to check. No problems at all.

So obviously this is not a generic, "if you ever used a hybrid online you are banned" type of deal. I suspect it only applies to anyone that used cars in TT's and other offical PD events and has nothing to do with generic online play in open lobbies or lounges, but only time will tell.

For now, it's business as usual. 👍👍 Sorry non-hybriders...

 

[iainoflo85]

According to the Holy word from above, I should be toast, burnt toast in fact. Since I started hybriding, I've driven nothing else for 10 days now. Mostly in my own lobby or in the lobby of an online buddy that's cool with hybriding. According to this:

We have recently confirmed usage of illicitly modified game data in the online services of Gran Turismo 5, and the relevant accounts have now been banned from the service.
Hereafter, these Online ID's in question will no longer be able to access the online portion of Gran Turismo 5.

...I should not be online, and yet I am with no problems. Entered 2 different lobbies, had no problems at all.

I suspect they are just looking at TT's and other official events and could give a rat's patootie about the rest of the game, online or off. Seeing as how the last two TT's had cars provided, this can only mean the recent use of hybrids in the Drift Trials. The next couple of days will confirm this, or not, but if I had to bet, and I would if I could, my money would lay on business as usual, keep them out of official PD events, carry on regardless.

I think your suspicions are right Ex, it's just a warning shot over the bow and nothing has really changed. What was really needed was a simple update, allowing hybrids or not in open lobbies, problem solved, but that's too much work I guess.

👍 +1 Agreed completely.

This is my stance on this news update - it's not a scare tactic unless you have genuinely been ruining the online experience for other players. If you have hacked cars don't feel the need to rush out and delete them. If you never used them on Seasonal Trials with leaderboards then you've not been banned, and if you do this then you will.

Drop the paranoia people - this is nothing but a message to say that they've just banned people - and will ban people caught doing the same thing - for cheating in a worldwide leaderboard event. This is the definition of cheating, at last and PD have done something about it. The rest of the lobbies will be full of hacked cars for the next few weeks no doubt as some people are not dissuaded by this press release at all.

 

[Nielsen]

Best thing PD has done for a while! This makes me so happy.

 

[zotobom]

Will this ban people that hacked their money too,or just people that hack their car stats? I really hope the second one. Hacked cars really disturb gameplay.

 

[Lock2Lock]

Will this ban people that hacked their money too,or just people that hack their car stats? I really hope the second one. Hacked cars really disturb gameplay.

No one knows bro. It seems as of now it was just aimed at the seasonals

 

[NFSCARBON1]

I have a feeling that this may all but kill off GT5. While in the short term there will be fewer stupid HP cars roaming around causing problems, if over 50% of the online community get banned, then I can't see it surviving. Also where will the line be drawn? Most hacked cars are traded using borrow glitching. So will everyone who borrow glitched get banned too? What about people who 'farm' tickets? Or those who used multiple BDay ticket glitches way back when GT5 was released?

This could mean around 80-90% (guess) of GT5's users being banned.

 

[Dmarc_Atl]

I have a feeling that this may all but kill off GT5. While in the short term there will be fewer stupid HP cars roaming around causing problems, if over 50% of the online community get banned, then I can't see it surviving. Also where will the line be drawn? Most hacked cars are traded using borrow glitching. So will everyone who borrow glitched get banned too? What about people who 'farm' tickets? Or those who used multiple BDay ticket glitches way back when GT5 was released?

This could mean around 80-90% (guess) of GT5's users being banned.

Its no way that many, alot of my friends dont hybrid nor wanted any of mines.But yea, I think if you took them online ( seasonals ) then it doesnt matter how you got it, theres a chance you will get banned.The online aspect would be dead if it was that amount hybriding but more than likely they would just do it offline.

 

[Dan]

I really hope that at least 50% of the GT5 community at one point or another, owned a hybrid, just to show PD how popular these cars are. We really needed hybrids because this game felt bland and boring. It was fun to guess what modifications a user did to their car. It was fun to see variety. Something that is rare in GT5 with the duplicate Skylines, Miatas, and severe lack of cars that are not Japanese.

 

[Lock2Lock]

I was caught cheating, now I am mad.

So we're you really banned or not?

And did you do the online ranked seasonal events?

I really hope that at least 50% of the GT5 community at one point or another, owned a hybrid, just to show PD how popular these cars are. We really needed hybrids because this game felt bland and boring. It was fun to guess what modifications a user did to their car. It was fun to see variety. Something that is rare in GT5 with the duplicate Skylines, Miatas, and severe lack of cars that are not Japanese.

Agreed.

 

[Endless-Wilso]

Its still to early i think for Sony to take action yet and plus is the Weekend sooo i dont think they will start looking into bans till sunday night or monday in Japan.

 

[mazdaman]

not even taking a chance..........

 

[MiuraSV777]

I hope at least in gt6, they have something similar to forza, where you have to pay in-game credits to change the engine, but be able to do this to the engine and chassis (but forza is only from the same manufactor, so I would expect gt6 to do the same thing, if they are doing this idea)

I never had a hacked car, but it does seem like a good idea to be able to swap the engine/chassis

 

[Clyde306]

Well, for some I say it serves them right and I hope they lose there PSN and all there game data. But for many others its a bit of a shame really. I have a rather large collection of hybrids myself, many of which I have personally built. I am proud to say I have never once used any of them to win any event. To me its been like an alternate method of tuning; for example I always wondered why they chose the 440 6-Pack 'cuda for the game rather than a Hemi 'cuda.... Hybriding gave me the option to have 'Hemi 'cudas. I consider myself one of those "Realistic Hackers", But hey if I lose my PSN over it well I guess I deserve it. For a long time I was under the belief that the release of "Special Stage Route X" was secretly to give the hackers a place to play but I stand corrected. I actually read the full terms of service last night for the first time... Kinda got a chill up my spine reading that. I think Ill just stay offline for a week and see if I hear of any actions. I personally think It would be a difficult feat for PD to find and suspend Every user handling hybrid save data. But Ive been wrong before.

 

[Lock2Lock]

I hope at least in gt6, they have something similar to forza, where you have to pay in-game credits to change the engine, but be able to do this to the engine and chassis (but forza is only from the same manufactor, so I would expect gt6 to do the same thing, if they are doing this idea)

Yep. It wouldn't be cross manufacturer engine swaps but it would be same manufacturer engine swaps. You are correct.

Also if say you wanted to make a D1 or FD (Formula Drift replica). Like in real life FD or D1 they have Nascar V8's or 2jz a Silvia S13 these type of cars with these modifications would most likely be in the game already or under some different circumstances like maybe a RM models.

 

[P0UP0N]

Hybrids are the main reason I stick to 450pp online. I have a couple hybrids, but only in paint form (black Ferrari 330P, black 69 GT-40). Sounds like I will need to delete them, although they were never used online. Bummer...

 

[NFSCARBON1]

Its no way that many, alot of my friends dont hybrid nor wanted any of mines.But yea, I think if you took them online ( seasonals ) then it doesnt matter how you got it, theres a chance you will get banned.The online aspect would be dead if it was that amount hybriding but more than likely they would just do it offline.

I'm not just talking about hybrids with the 80-90% thing. It's just a lot of the trading of hacked cars uses borrow glitching. So if PD clamp down on Borrow Glitchers, there will be a lot more people affected, not just those who have owned or used hybrids.

 

[Eks]

Chrunch Houston should be happy to hear this. 👍

 

[MoLiEG]

Not going to delete my Sauber Merc or my GT-One now that they have with proper engine sounds, nor my Lister Storm with corrected weight... and my revived Honda S2000 LM Race Car with GT3 original HP, and my slammed, Drag Superbird with 900HP, and my Stanced 300C...

Haven't harmed no-one, I only use them offline...

🤬 you, PD...

I'll take my chances...

 

[LeadFootLiam]

Its still to early i think for Sony to take action yet and plus is the Weekend sooo i dont think they will start looking into bans till sunday night or monday in Japan.

Thats true

I really hope that at least 50% of the GT5 community at one point or another, owned a hybrid, just to show PD how popular these cars are. We really needed hybrids because this game felt bland and boring. It was fun to guess what modifications a user did to their car. It was fun to see variety. Something that is rare in GT5 with the duplicate Skylines, Miatas, and severe lack of cars that are not Japanese.

Very true, hopefully they may think twice about banning everyone who used these cars.

I just got into making *realistic hacks* for example a GTR with 1200 HP.

I hope they dont ban the people who are hyriding cars for fun, and not for cheating

 

[Tornado]

Yay schadenfreude. And this topic totally couldn't be posted here or anything.

 

[Serenade]

Seems like the general consensus is that PD is only focusing on Seasonal TT's and Drift and whatnot. Although I'm still a bit worried since I'm grinding in a B-Spec Seasonal with a hacked X2010, just to make the races go by quicker; not at all interested in the leaderboard events.

Maybe I should switch to a stock X2010