Obama Presidency Discussion Thread

How would you vote in the 2008 US Presidential Election?

  • Obama-Biden (Democrat)

    Votes: 67 59.3%
  • McCain-Palin (Republican)

    Votes: 18 15.9%
  • Barr-Root (Libertarian)

    Votes: 14 12.4%
  • Nader-Gonzales (Independent-Ecology Party / Peace and Freedom Party)

    Votes: 5 4.4%
  • McKinney-Clemente (Green)

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • Baldwin-Castle (Constitution)

    Votes: 7 6.2%
  • Gurney-? (Car & Driver)

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • Other...

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    113
  • Poll closed .
LOL @ Chris. Do you find it funny when angry people are put on the spot, they bring out the mercy call all of a sudden?

I remember this idiot getting angry at me because I posted a very revealing You Tube video about John McSame, and he went on to tell me how You Tube videos are all edited and should not be taken seriously... Nowadays, it seems You Tube is his main source of spam about Obama.

Angry rednecks amuse me very...very easily.


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Where are you guys watching the results? I'm planning to stick to the BBC coverage, which is usually excellent...
I have Fox News running on my desk TV right now, but it will switch based on what's going on.


I voted before work, and who I supported has been no secret. We had the longest lines ever here in Frankfort, KY. I had to wait behind seven people. That was rough. I only made it in to work 15 minutes early.

My biggest concern right now is that the news cycle returns to normal. My company is PR driven and largely affected by news cycles. Business has been down 60% from average since July and I have had to write a staffing reduction proposal in the event that this gets drug out like 2000. The best immediate thing for me is a clear cut winner, no matter who it is. Long-term, I think we all lose, no matter who the winner is, unless a third-party pulls off something awesome. Anyway, if this doesn't go smoothly and end tonight I will have to layoff some people in my department, and I do not want that.
 
In the poll above, the option in italic should be the one I voted for, right? In that case something wrong happened because when I voted I selected "other" just so I could see the results but now that other candidates were added it shows "Baldwin-Castle (Constitution)" in italic to me.
 
Obama, simply because he's not as W as McCain. I'm not into politics and I'm not American so I don't have a clue of wich one of them would be the best president. But I have a feeling that Obama is way smarter, want's peace in the world more and is more just than McCain. McCain looks like an evil ***hole who just want to have power and start a war as a weekend pleasure. But this is just what pops up in my mind...

[sarcasm] Wow, now there's in-depth political commentary for you. [/sarcasm]

Yeah, I'm sure a guy who has been shot at in anger and spent a few years in a Viet Cong prison is really eager to start a war "as a weekend pleasure".

Too bad this kind of 'progressive' attitude and 'enlightened' knowledge is so prevalent worldwide - not to mention within the US itself.
 
When Barack came to Joe's neighborhood, sometimes I wished Joe would have just given Barack the finger.

Or the Thumb, as in the arabic way of saying "up yours!" :lol:

I'm thinking of trolling my voting place with some signs that say, "Vote No Confidence, Vote 3rd party." Of course, that wouldn't be a very good thing if they wind up picking one of the 2 bonkers socialist candidates. edit: three.
 
I have one last thing to add to anyone still on the fence:

There is only one real candidate.
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Can we reset the poll and ask who we voted for to compare turnout?
 
I just went at around 9:30 this morning. I didn't expect to get out that quickly at all, it was mostly old people, and I only waited for about five minutes.

I voted for Bob Barr, as Obama and McCain both scare the **** out of me. It does feel good to have it all finished though. Now it's time to sit back and watch the show.
 
I voted for Bob Barr, as Obama and McCain both scare the **** out of me. It does feel good to have it all finished though. Now it's time to sit back and watch the show.
I would love to see Barr get the same percentage as the poll for this thread shows. It would definitely wake some people up.
 
I made my choice .

John McCain

I think Obama is a well spoken , thoughtfull person . he has his system of beliefs and has not lied about what he will do .
IF anyone listens--and gets past the " words' , Its what he would do and how he would run his presidency , that has made me choose the other Option.

I do NOT want higher taxes on the RICH as I do not believe in class warfare , and since I never have seen a poor person create jobs --Mr Obama's plan to tax the evil rich = Disaster in an already shaky economy.
he is a true believer is BIG government--I am not , although I realise that government is needed to step in in emergencies--it is NOT there to make your choices.
Mr Obama is just much too far to the left --although on most Social policy I may be with him --on some he makes me look like a right wing loon.
On the issue that has bothered me..

The guy lies better than Bill ---he lied about his associations .
now I understand that you have to , as his REV said " say what you have to say --and do what you need to do " to become president .
But this guy was raised in a radical left wing enviroment and has ALWAYS voted and advanced this adgenda --he makes NO excuses for it in his policy statements --and SAYS he will do thing consistent with these beliefs--again " listen to what he says" ..but he advoids his past like the plague ..because most Americans are centrist or moderate conservatives. I undrstand he has to be careful not to be demonized..

Look at what they did to McCain in 2000 . its understandable --but it took the gloss off him ( Obama), and made him into a packaged for sale , soundbite ...I am reluctant to buy .

He has NO experiance ...sorry I don't buy into he doesn't need it .
I have one guy ready to lead from day one and another with needs for on the job training .
our world is not in good enough shape for on the job training --give this guy 4 years of actual Work in office --and maybe he won't be such a cypher..he needs a record to run on .

I reconize a very important FACT ...if it wasn't for George Bush and nutso republicans and the economy ( something BOTH parties need to answer for ) Mr Obama would be a footnote .
Charisma and great speeches do not make a good president .

Harry Truman ?

Jimmy Carter is about as close a president as I can compare Mr Obama to .

Obama and his foriegn policy = hold on tight ...the guy is scary .
I do not wish my President to be scary naive about the world ..I do not wish to be a member of the world first and the USA second .

Why McCain ?

despite the fact he chose Gov Palin , I believe a move to placate right wing base ..but she is NOT experianced enough to be President --she can grow into it ..but pray for the guys good genes .. I feel he offers common sense Tax policy and I do not fear he will have us in a war --Mr Obama invites trouble --while This good Old guy has seen trouble and beat it senseless .
There is just NO comparison between the two as to foriegn policy experiance.

McCains a moderate republican . he is a centrist and I can believe what he says.

he said he would not take private campaign finace and stuck to his word.
Obama Lied .

he says he will work with democrats and bring us together --and THIS is MOST important to me --that we become Americans again not reds and blues .
He has DONE this and often --Obama has NOT .

The guys whole life almost has been one of dedication to his country .
I think he will make the best president at this time .

Despite the fact , that in the short time Obama may put some money in MY pocket and if I was to vote MY OWN BEST INTEREST --short term its maybe Obama ..
But I have to leave the world to my children--and in the long term Obama is NOT right for America his type of change we do not need .


I hope I made some sense to you.
I don't even want to touch socialized heath care ...

I will howerver leave with a very important consideration.

checks and balances---we can't have all three parts of our government in control of one party .
Its always been a disaster for us --republican or democrat.

if Obama is elected --I fear there will NOT be another democrat elected for another 40 years ..and the pendulum will swing to the far RIGHT .. as a reaction to the Government policies he promises..this is NOT good for our country .

look at our history for precident .

Go Vote ..its time for change.
 
I made my choice .

John McCain

I think Obama is a well spoken , thoughtfull person . he has his system of beliefs and has not lied about what he will do .
IF anyone listens--and gets past the " words' , Its what he would do and how he would run his presidency , that has made me choose the other Option.

Sorry to hear you got sucked into the dichotomy. I know I can't change your vote, but I want to make a final response before I go off to the polls and tomorrow comes.

I do NOT want higher taxes on the RICH as I do not believe in class warfare , and since I never have seen a poor person create jobs --Mr Obama's plan to tax the evil rich = Disaster in an already shaky economy.

Guess who also wants a third of their income? His name is John.

he is a true believer is BIG government--I am not , although I realise that government is needed to step in in emergencies--it is NOT there to make your choices.
Mr Obama is just much too far to the left --although on most Social policy I may be with him --on some he makes me look like a right wing loon.
On the issue that has bothered me..

The guy lies better than Bill ---he lied about his associations .
now I understand that you have to , as his REV said " say what you have to say --and do what you need to do " to become president .
But this guy was raised in a radical left wing enviroment and has ALWAYS voted and advanced this adgenda --he makes NO excuses for it in his policy statements --and SAYS he will do thing consistent with these beliefs--again " listen to what he says" ..but he advoids his past like the plague ..because most Americans are centrist or moderate conservatives. I undrstand he has to be careful not to be demonized..

And McCain isn't/doesn't/won't?



Look at what they did to McCain in 2000 . its understandable --but it took the gloss off him ( Obama), and made him into a packaged for sale , soundbite ...I am reluctant to buy .

He has NO experiance ...sorry I don't buy into he doesn't need it .
I have one guy ready to lead from day one and another with needs for on the job training .
our world is not in good enough shape for on the job training --give this guy 4 years of actual Work in office --and maybe he won't be such a cypher..he needs a record to run on .

Neither John nor Barack needs any on the job training. They're both masters of fallacies.

I reconize a very important FACT ...if it wasn't for George Bush and nutso republicans and the economy ( something BOTH parties need to answer for ) Mr Obama would be a footnote .
Charisma and great speeches do not make a good president .

Harry Truman ?

Jimmy Carter is about as close a president as I can compare Mr Obama to .

Obama and his foriegn policy = hold on tight ...the guy is scary .
I do not wish my President to be scary naive about the world ..I do not wish to be a member of the world first and the USA second .

Gotta agree with you there.

Why McCain ?

despite the fact he chose Gov Palin , I believe a move to placate right wing base ..but she is NOT experianced enough to be President --she can grow into it ..but pray for the guys good genes .. I feel he offers common sense Tax policy and I do not fear he will have us in a war --Mr Obama invites trouble --while This good Old guy has seen trouble and beat it senseless .
There is just NO comparison between the two as to foriegn policy experiance.

Yeah, Palin can't hold a candle to John or Barack. She couldn't even BS Katie Couric. As for war and trouble, I have a feeling we're either in for a Zbig surprise or a ... Lieberman something or other.

McCains a moderate republican . he is a centrist and I can believe what he says.

he said he would not take private campaign finace and stuck to his word.

That's supposed to be a good thing?

Obama Lied .

he says he will work with democrats and bring us together --and THIS is MOST important to me --that we become Americans again not reds and blues .
He has DONE this and often --Obama has NOT .

Reds and Blues? As Nixon might say, we're all Pinks now.

The guys whole life almost has been one of dedication to his country .
I think he will make the best president at this time .

Despite the fact , that in the short time Obama may put some money in MY pocket and if I was to vote MY OWN BEST INTEREST --short term its maybe Obama ..
But I have to leave the world to my children--and in the long term Obama is NOT right for America his type of change we do not need .

Right, let's choose the good statist.

I hope I made some sense to you.
I don't even want to touch socialized heath care ...

I will howerver leave with a very important consideration.

checks and balances---we can't have all three parts of our government in control of one party .
Its always been a disaster for us --republican or democrat.

Actually, it seems like we can't even have them controlled by two parties.

if Obama is elected --I fear there will NOT be another democrat elected for another 40 years ..and the pendulum will swing to the far RIGHT .. as a reaction to the Government policies he promises..this is NOT good for our country .

look at our history for precident .

Go Vote ..its time for change.

You say that like it's a bad thing. I've said it before, but the best thing that could come of an Obama victory is a total restructuring of the "right", rebuilt in the image of liberty. Somebody pinch me.
 
Took me about an hour and a half this morning to vote and I showed up at 6:45 to be in line. I cast my vote, ultimately going third party. I've done quite a bit of research over the past couple days and concluded that McCain and Obama as remarkably similar on many things I did not agree with. I don't know if I voted for the best person, but I voted for the person I thought would do the best job even though I know they won't win in the end.
 
You know nothing about either candidate, yet you think Obama is just and smart and McCain wants to start a war as a weekend pleasure? What gives you that impression?
Omnis
Obama wants peace in the world? Lol, that's a good one. You are a textbook example of the following:
Duke
[sarcasm] Wow, now there's in-depth political commentary for you. [/sarcasm]

Yeah, I'm sure a guy who has been shot at in anger and spent a few years in a Viet Cong prison is really eager to start a war "as a weekend pleasure".

Too bad this kind of 'progressive' attitude and 'enlightened' knowledge is so prevalent worldwide - not to mention within the US itself.
You guys missed what I mentioned right? I said "I'm not into politics and I'm not American so I don't have a clue of wich one of them would be the best president" and "But this is just what pops up in my mind". Wich means I'm NOT into politics and I DON'T have a clue of wich one of them would be the best president. But now I now a tiny bit more about McCain thanks to Duke. 👍
 
Took me about an hour and a half this morning to vote and I showed up at 6:45 to be in line. I cast my vote, ultimately going third party. I've done quite a bit of research over the past couple days and concluded that McCain and Obama as remarkably similar on many things I did not agree with. I don't know if I voted for the best person, but I voted for the person I thought would do the best job even though I know they won't win in the end.
👍 It feels a little better knowing that you did not buy into the status quo, doesn't it?
 
👍 It feels a little better knowing that you did not buy into the status quo, doesn't it?

I still like Obama better then McCain although I still think both fail and don't want either of them running the country. But I feel good for making an informed decision.
 
Be brave, vote for change! 👍
There should be no reason to be brave. When you're educated on the decision you're making there's no such thing as being brave. When you're ignorant or misinformed, however, you won't get anything done unless you "be brave", i.e. jump in the water with a blindfold on. That's being brave.
 
Some lady with no life dragged her kids out to my clubhouse (where the polls are) and was holding signs that said, "McCain and Palin = Change" and "McCain/Palin is Pro-Life". :lol: Oh, how funny people are.

I was going to approach her but I decided not to. Instead, she called out to me and asked how it was. I said it was empty (actually, it was full, but not full enough for a line to form). I was going to go again to explain to her how McCain certainly wasn't pro life, and that the best PL candidate was Chuck Baldwin, but I learned in the past not to give misguided fundies truth doses in that high a concentration. I take solace in the fact that we both voted for Hostetter (if she didn't, there's a real problem upstairs) for congress to hopefully replace the current bitch there.
 
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You guys missed what I mentioned right? I said "I'm not into politics and I'm not American so I don't have a clue of wich one of them would be the best president" and "But this is just what pops up in my mind".

I certainly did read and understand that part. Unfortunately, when a large percentage of the world (including within the US) holds the same beliefs with the same amount of evidence and analysis, it drives our politics in a bad direction.
 
Rick Levinthal is getting into it with the "Black Panthers" standing around poll entrances in Pennsylvania on Fox News. It's actually kind of funny to watch as the poll workers and "Black Panther" guy tell them they do not have the right to be there and he shows them where the state officials said that they did.

It's off now, but I am sure they will come back to it.
 
Its interesting that most people associate Obama with Socialism, even John McCain does!

Well, it might surprise you to know that John McCain has just said live on TV (not more than 5 minutes ago) that he would fight for Social Security and Medicare! WTF? Sounds like the ramblings of a desparate man!

There should be no reason to be brave. When you're educated on the decision you're making there's no such thing as being brave. When you're ignorant or misinformed, however, you won't get anything done unless you "be brave", i.e. jump in the water with a blindfold on. That's being brave.

Why not be brave?

There are a lot of Americans out there that are not educated! I was watching the BBC news earlier, and some woman actually said she was scared of Obama, she wouldn't give a specific reason (I don't even think she had one), just that she was scared. Judging by the clueless look in her eyes, I'd say she had brought into the hype without really knowing the facts!

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if Obama is elected --I fear there will NOT be another democrat elected for another 40 years ..and the pendulum will swing to the far RIGHT .. as a reaction to the Government policies he promises..this is NOT good for our country .

Ahhh... the pains of growing up...
 
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What happens if America comes under crisis, mccain falls ill(could happen) and Palin is put in charge? :scared:
 
Its interesting that most people associate Obama with Socialism, even John McCain does!

Well, it might surprise you to know that John McCain has just said live on TV (not more than 5 minutes ago) that he would fight for Social Security and Medicare!
Exactly why I didn't vote for either of them.

What happens if America comes under crisis,
Like either of these guys winning? We'll find out tonight, won't we?
 
It may be your world in as little as 12 years.

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For someone who wanted to destroy the United States as it stands, he sure felt the urge to vote in our amazing land of ours...



Why didn't Ayers, Farrakhan, and Obama car pool together? They all live in the same neighborhood and they could have so cut down on their Carbon Emissions.
 
Anyone got any hard facts on how the voting is going? I'm wetting myself here! :lol:

EDIT: The BBC Is running live coverage on the net. 👍
 
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