One year after release opinion

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jake2013guy
However, what I'm surprised nobody's brought up again is the F&F game.
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That may be it.

BrakeCheck101
Would be great to hear all of your thoughts too.
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Thanks for the great video - very interesting to hear your ideas and opinions. I hope you do some more in the future when there is something you want to get across.

I am hoping that the announcement is not a rally game as that would be of no interest to me or my online friends.

I am also not interested in a mobile game and definitely would not buy that.

Personally I am hoping for an expansion of the current game, (particularly classic tracks and historic race cars) - although this is unlikely, a second season pass to be announced just before Christmas could help build the franchise and keep people playing the game.

PS5 and a version of Project Cars for a new console is probably a long way off - I hope so too as consoles are expensive and it only feels like yesterday that I bought a PS4 Pro.

I think Ian Bell said "some epic things" - plural! so hopefully it is more than one thing - if so we can be sure that one of them is a mobile game and most likely the second thing is FandF as suggested by Jake.
 
This may sound selfish but I don't really care :)

If there's any news regarding anything other than future support, features or dlc for PC2 then I'm not remotely interested.

I absolutely love this game, it's rekindled my love for racing after GT, it's the only game I have & play, it's the reason I upgraded to a 1X from the PS3, it's the reason I bought a 4K TV, it's the reason I bought my 1st wheel (not because of the controller) but to feel more immersed in what I enjoy.

I'm constantly finding different combination of fun with this game & feel like I've only scratched the surface yet I've had it for nearly a year.

I don't get near enough time to play it as I'd like but as soon as my time is free I'm on it.

It's captivating, annoying, brilliant, frustrating, emotional & fantastic all at the same time & I don't think I'll touch another racing game for a long time.

Yes it still has a few hiccups & probably does need a little more polish but for me personally it's nothing game breaking & doesn't stop me enjoying it.

And whether you agree with the me or not, I have alot more faith in SMS/IanBell than I ever had with Kaz.
 
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Pfei
The rally market is ripe for a surprise attack by a studio not previously involved in it. Current-gen rally games suffer on a number of fronts:

SLRE: great physics, great car list, lots of content - bad graphics, bad sounds
DR: great graphics, immersion, sounds - wierd floaty super-power-slide-enabled physics without weight, very thin on content
D4: not much to say here - a good idea gone wrong, again thin on content
WRC: great stages, official license, decent physics - 30fps on console, iffy sounds, physics off at times
V-Rally 4: great stages, good car selection, decent physics - 30fps on console, iffy sounds, physics off at times
Gravel: not really a rally game but it shows that Milestone has gotten their crappy graphics and sound under control - big improvement on those fronts.
DR 2.0 - looks like they might finally get the physics right - also looking to be very thin on content again

PC2 loose surface physics is superb. SMS has the physics, the graphics, and surely the know-how and motivation to create a great rally game, especially if they could come up with a correct version of Your Stage (with more variety of turns and straights).

All rally games this gen have been half-assed, either in content, graphics, sound or physics. The market may be a little too crowded. I agree there are quite a few players in the rally genre but since no one has been able to put together a complete rally game yet I think SMS could turn the genre upside down with a solid effort that provides an all-around complete and competent game. The competition is really not that high as far as quality and completeness are concerned.
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Keep in mind that we don't know who now has the official WRC licence.

Codies don't have it as DR2.0 shows, same with the release of V-Rally 4 rules out Kyloton.

Could SMS have nabbed it?
 
Scaff
Keep in mind that we don't know who now has the official WRC licence.

Codies don't have it as DR2.0 shows, same with the release of V-Rally 4 rules out Kyloton.

Could SMS have nabbed it?
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It's a possibility. However, even though Kylotonn did V-Rally 4 Bigben might still have or renewed the license. We do know that WRC 8 will be released late 2019 and be based on the '19 season. As you say, who does it is anyone's guess. SMS doing it would be a nice breath of fresh air.

Regarding Fast and Furious, @jake2013guy I did mention that game earlier in this thread. It was supposed to be announced a year ago. The lack of news may point to it being abandoned, or perhaps the contract was not signed at the last minute?
 
Pfei
Regarding Fast and Furious, @jake2013guy I did mention that game earlier in this thread. It was supposed to be announced a year ago. The lack of news may point to it being abandoned, or perhaps the contract was not signed at the last minute?
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I meant in his post regarding the 4 possibilities.

It could be anything. There's a lot that @IanBell said we should be hearing about. I remember hearing about him saying to keep an eye about something related to ovals in the SpotTheOzzie stream.
 
simsimsheree
When the developer of a game tries to claim his team are the most communicative, and yet hasn't posted ONCE in a whole year about the game, when his entire team haven't even posted but a handful of times on their own forum this year, you can either accept the lie or tell the truth. Every single point I made was a FACT. I didn't have to make up anything.
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WRONG
You must have a very big hand :P

go to pcars2 forum and klick on [SMS Posts] on the left upper side of the page.
You'll count then more the 500 devs and SMS staff posts.

Seems that every single point is just "your" FACT, a bit FAKED maybe ;)
 
I think it'll be a unannounced game that heads in a entirely new direction.

It's going to be very current and feature a simulation of a reality TV talent show. And it's going to be called Project Stars.

The season pass will include singer, dancer, magician and comedian packs.

I could be wrong though.
 
IfAndOr
I think it'll be a unannounced game that heads in a entirely new direction.

It's going to be very current and feature a simulation of a reality TV talent show. And it's going to be called Project Stars.

The season pass will include singer, dancer, magician and comedian packs.

I could be wrong though.
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Not exactly what I was hoping for, but kind of close. I was hoping for a Metallica drummer simulator called Project Lars.
 
IfAndOr
I think it'll be a unannounced game that heads in a entirely new direction.

It's going to be very current and feature a simulation of a reality TV talent show. And it's going to be called Project Stars.

The season pass will include singer, dancer, magician and comedian packs.

I could be wrong though.
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eran0004
Not exactly what I was hoping for, but kind of close. I was hoping for a Metallica drummer simulator called Project Lars.
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Russian Oligarch Simulator - Project Tsars
Golf Simulator - Project Pars
Confectionary Business Similator - Project Mars
Pirate Simulator - Project Arrrr
Pub Simulator - Project Bars (can also be combined with Confectionary Business Simulator to create Project Mars Bars)


(coat grabbed, I'll close the door on the way out)
 
IfAndOr
I think it'll be a unannounced game that heads in a entirely new direction.

It's going to be very current and feature a simulation of a reality TV talent show. And it's going to be called Project Stars.

The season pass will include singer, dancer, magician and comedian packs.

I could be wrong though.
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Not quite some dancing star myself so project stars will do good for practicing too
 
IfAndOr
To simulate constantly varying floor conditions it'll feature DanceTrack 3.0 ;)
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Project Stars ice-skating won't be a success definitely, if we taking into account that in project cars most users leave in fear when they see it's either a random or rainy or snowy race server.

Project Cars online community is a pity. Livetyrack3.0 probably best feature after tyre behaviour, and almost nobody uses it. If I were a dev I'd definitely be ashamed of my own community. So much effort put into the livetrack3.0 stuff and its effects on car behavioural, for then collecting statistics where they are told that only 1% of the userbase is taking advantage of the feature and enjoying it. Not to mention everybody on just GT3 too.

This is btw why I said in another post many pages back next prtoject cars should focus on very few car classes, so more people can gather together online.
 
Bricks50
Cars handle a lot better, way more fun and also better graphics.
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The handling is easier because it is simpler, not necessarily better. They lack realism and immersion for me - especially the force feedback models which feel very limited lack the dynamics and feel of PC2 or Assetto Corsa.

I do enjoy GTS and F1 a great deal but I don't put either of them in the sim category.
 
Cluck
Russian Oligarch Simulator - Project Tsars
Golf Simulator - Project Pars
Confectionary Business Similator - Project Mars
Pirate Simulator - Project Arrrrs
Pub Simulator - Project Bars (can also be combined with Confectionary Business Simulator to create Project Mars Bars)


(coat grabbed, I'll close the door on the way out)
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FTFY
 
Satco1066
go to pcars2 forum and klick on [SMS Posts] on the left upper side of the page.
You'll count then more the 500 devs and SMS staff posts.

Seems that every single point is just "your" FACT, a bit FAKED maybe ;)
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Now go and repeat your actions, and note the dates. SMS have basically been AWOL from their own forum for a long time.

And the 'metrics' are just as easy to check here. Ian Bell until this thread, has posted only ONCE all year, and that was to shill his new upcoming game. So, basically AWOL for a year.

If you had read the thread, you might have noticed I acknowledge fully that SMS used to interact with their customers in a way few others ever did. But they stopped. This isn't 'fake' news, just news you'd rather not hear about. To be honest, it isn't news at all...

We all know SMS went AWOL.

I'd just like them back again in a serious way, not fluff pieces that ignore the questions that the base are asking.
 
I'm not even going to bother anymore. It's just the same thing over and over again. I give up. I'm not going to mute him as I want to see how it continues. But I can't do this anymore. It's just painful and we're going in circles all the time.
 
The game is great overall now, the only thing that is ruining some of the career races (play only offline) is the unrealistic puddles creation when scaling time and the fact that the AI can get through these lakes with no issues while you get into the barrier even at 30kmh.

Sadly I think it needs too much effort to get fixed so i won't be at this stage.
 
I'll try & get a video up, but if it's silly puddles you want then do Dubai autodrome 20mins race, any car, set 4x weather slots & sync with race, choose dry, thunderstorm, dry, dry.
50% of the track becomes a lake & the long straight towards the hairpin is just 1 long river :lol:
Fun in the right cars but silly none the less.
 
Bricks50
I deleted the game last night. GT and F1 is so much better, IMO.
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Donnced
I deleted GTS instead... After 1 year private lobbies are still broken,Tyre model still broken and car variety, track variety, options,AI, phisycs,features and FFB isn't even near what PC2 offers, making PC2 a much better game overall, IMO.

Graphics aren't all.
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And I play both and have twice the fun... Win-win situation. Hating something is also loosing something, and both games have their pro's and cons.
 

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