ORCA - Coming Soon: SILVIA RM SPEC CUP!

[SagarisGTB]

I usually only type out the top 5 and do it all in one comment which takes about 30 seconds. Typing out someone's name, waiting for them to roll out, typing the next person's name and waiting for the to roll out, repeat, repeat, repeat, then having to start all over again because someone pulled too far forward and ruined the lineup.......that adds too much time and frustration for my liking. I've done the manual grid line ups several times, never liked them and never will because I see it as unnecessary and it also dampens the excitement.

In the Tri-Auto Cup, I used abbreviations for everyone's names so that saved us quite a bit of time waiting at the start. In terms of time spent gridding, we gridded 12 racers in about 1 minute 30 seconds, 8 racers in about 50 seconds and 9 racers in about 1 minute 10 seconds. I don't have a keyboard, so it could take a bit less time than those examples.

In terms of total time before the race actually gets underway, it took about 4 minutes on Trial Mountain and Grand Valley and a stout 2 minutes 45 seconds at Autumn Ring. Remember, that includes gridding, gathering at the line-up area and the procession to the race start. Those times are only 1 to 2 minutes longer than a normal slow warm-up lap needed for a rolling start.

And that's the last of what I'll say on the subject. I'm not too bothered about how the races start, and I trust Brandon will have the series running like clockwork. I look forward to the thread.

 

[BrandonW77]

So the polesitter is going to be stuck on the outside at Tsukuba then?

We've done countless races at Tsukuba and never switched the pole sitter's position before. The race is going to be 40-45 laps so there will be plenty of time to sort things out. If I start trying to address every little problem and quirk in the game it will be another year before the season starts.

Sorry guys, I'm not trying to be negative or combative, I'm just not a fan of the manual grid line ups for a number of reasons. The main reason is that in my experience they just aren't necessary, the game is fully capable of lining us up properly if everyone follows my very simple instructions before qualifying. I've done hours of testing on this and have many races worth of experience figuring out how the game decides our starting order. Yes, it's very easy to screw it up but it's just as easy to make it work properly. This is, of course, presuming that none of these things changed with the most recent update. If things have changed I will adjust accordingly, but until it's proven that things are different I don't plan on changing my method. This is for everybody's benefit, not just mine. 👍

 

[IforceV8]

If I read it correctly it stated that the whole field might have to move themselves to the other side of the grid depending on which line the pole sitter decides to start on. And this would all have to be discussed ahead of time in a separate thread. That's just about the most convoluted thing I've ever heard, if I ever ask you guys to do something this silly you can petition to have me banned from GT5.

You didnt.

The reality of those rules is that the pole position is based on the 1st turn of the track.Pole is given the inside line.The thing your not seeing in that block of rules is qualifying was done prior to the race,so that grid process has to be done.Responsibility for knowing your starting place is left up to the individual racers.

Once in a while we have tried to exit the pits prior to the start and pre-set the grid,but most times it is sorted out when the pace lap starts.I have never seen a grid issue after the 1st turn so its no big deal.

I have no problem with the old Capp cup method of gridding,I just dont know if that method still works.I also dont care if the start is standing or rolling,both are ok if the standing start grid is actually right.

 

[BrandonW77]

You didnt.

The reality of those rules is that the pole position is based on the 1st turn of the track.Pole is given the inside line.The thing your not seeing in that block of rules is qualifying was done prior to the race,so that grid process has to be done.Responsibility for knowing your starting place is left up to the individual racers.

I have no problem with the old Capp cup method of gridding,I just dont know if that method still works.I also dont care if the start is standing or rolling,both are ok if the standing start grid is actually right.

I forgot that they do their qualifying at random times during the week and not before the race, so it's not as bad as I thought. That's fine for the people who want to do that, I just don't happen to be one of those people. I understand the reasons why they do it, but personally I think it detracts more than it adds. But that's the beauty of GTP, everyone can have all the flavors of racing that they want because just about everything is covered (unless you want "no-tuning" racing, we're one of the very few to offer that). If people want a highly involved, procedure filled series that requires several hours of commitment every week they can go with any number of the PURE groups. If they just want to show up 30 minutes before the race, have a few laps of practice followed by a quick qualifying session and a race, they can come here.

I've had to slightly modify our qualifying procedure from the Capp Cup days. For a very long time we had a great system where half the group could watch the other half qualify and vice versa, we could split into two groups so the track wasn't over-crowded and everything worked great. Then, somewhere around update 2.02 they completely broke how things worked and that method was no longer possible. The new system works fine and starts us properly but I'm pretty sure you won't like it because we have to send everybody out at once now.

 

[LancerEvo7]

You could still do the two group thing, but you'd have to write down the times and do a manual lineup.

 

[BrandonW77]

You could still do the two group thing, but you'd have to write down the times and do a manual lineup.

Honestly, I just don't like doing work. I don't like writing things down or giving lots of instructions. I just want to show up, practice and race, and maybe give a little guidance to ensure things go smoothly. So far it's worked pretty good.

 

[LancerEvo7]

Then how did you get the results to put in the spreadsheets?

 

[BrandonW77]

Then how did you get the results to put in the spreadsheets?

Took a pic of the results screen and then had to type them into a spreadsheet. Last season RDAardvark did that part for me but I'll be doing it this season (he was kind enough to help me with the spreadsheet for this season though). It's not hard, I just don't like doing it.

 

[RDAardvark]

Took a pic of the results screen and then had to type them into a spreadsheet..... It's not hard, I just don't like doing it.

Neither did I!

 

[BrandonW77]

Neither did I!

Too bad we couldn't get that to be automated too! Oh well, some dirty work has to be done behind the scenes, I just like keeping it to a minimum (because I usually need to spend as much time practicing as possible!).

 

[Johnnypenso]

iForce you skilfully avoided my question about whether you were racing with us again or not

Has anyone driven the Silvia on the Motegi Oval? I ran a couple of restrictor plate Nascar races there and it was quite fun, much more fun than Daytona or Indy. I'm curious to see how the SS tires will do there, should make for quite a good race.

 

[carracerptp]

Has anyone driven the Silvia on the Motegi Oval? I ran a couple of restrictor plate Nascar races there and it was quite fun, much more fun than Daytona or Indy. I'm curious to see how the SS tires will do there, should make for quite a good race.

Many, many times.
Every test session I'v been in ended at Motegi Oval.
We've had a couple really good races there 👍

 

[IforceV8]

iForce you skilfully avoided my question about whether you were racing with us again or not

Has anyone driven the Silvia on the Motegi Oval? I ran a couple of restrictor plate Nascar races there and it was quite fun, much more fun than Daytona or Indy. I'm curious to see how the SS tires will do there, should make for quite a good race.

I dont know what the answer is yet.

We raced the Silvia at Motegi Super Speedway and it is a perfect fit.The car is a little tight off turn 4 but its not bad.

 

[BrandonW77]

I dont know what the answer is yet.

I think he likes the Silvia. There will be a week with two preseason races, give them a go and see what you think. It will only be four weeks so you won't have to suffer in an untuned car for too long.


I'd like to hold a test session tomorrow night to try out a couple tracks and test the qualifying procedure. I should be on around 8:30 or 9pm EDT, the more cara we can get the better results we'll get from the tests so try to stop by if you can. 👍

 

[Torzilla]

I think he likes the Silvia. There will be a week with two preseason races, give them a go and see what you think. It will only be four weeks so you won't have to suffer in an untuned car for too long.


I'd like to hold a test session tomorrow night to try out a couple tracks and test the qualifying procedure. I should be on around 8:30 or 9pm EDT, the more cara we can get the better results we'll get from the tests so try to stop by if you can. 👍

Im there

 

[OwensRacing]

I think he likes the Silvia. There will be a week with two preseason races, give them a go and see what you think. It will only be four weeks so you won't have to suffer in an untuned car for too long.

I'd like to hold a test session tomorrow night to try out a couple tracks and test the qualifying procedure. I should be on around 8:30 or 9pm EDT, the more cara we can get the better results we'll get from the tests so try to stop by if you can. 👍

Me thinks he likes us and misses us.


Mics on events really do end up being a lot of fun. Encourage you guys with out mics or not using them to get one and or use it and chat up with us!

 

[BrandonW77]

Mics on events really do end up being a lot of fun. Encourage you guys with out mics or not using them to get one and or use it and chat up with us!

Agreed. I'm really glad we don't have to run with them off anymore, half the fun for me is bull:censored:ing with you guys, especially on Thirsty Fridays.

 

[dsgerbc]

I'd like to hold a test session tomorrow night to try out a couple tracks and test the qualifying procedure. I should be on around 8:30 or 9pm EDT, the more cara we can get the better results we'll get from the tests so try to stop by if you can. 👍

My replacement loadcell isn't here yet. If I have enough time tomorrow after work I'll swap clutch to work as a brake. Should be good enough for testing.

 

[cnd01]

I think he likes the Silvia. There will be a week with two preseason races, give them a go and see what you think. It will only be four weeks so you won't have to suffer in an untuned car for too long.


I'd like to hold a test session tomorrow night to try out a couple tracks and test the qualifying procedure. I should be on around 8:30 or 9pm EDT, the more cara we can get the better results we'll get from the tests so try to stop by if you can. 👍

I will try my best to be there. Work will most likely get in the way. I will let you guys know if I can or can't make it.

 

[BrandonW77]

Progress is being made!

 

[carracerptp]

👍

 

[BrandonW77]

Slight modification, this one looks a little better I think.

 

[dsgerbc]

I had to overlay those to spot the difference. Lol.

 

[OwensRacing]

Looking good B.

 

[BrandonW77]

I've update the title and OP of this thread to reflect the Silvia Cup and our discussion of the new series. This isn't the official new thread but it should help to generate some interest. 👍

 

[carracerptp]

I will be in the test room later tonight 👍

 

[BrandonW77]

^ I may be as well, at some point. I've got to get some more images out of Photomode first but I already have the replay's recorded so it shouldn't take too long.

 

[carracerptp]

I'll on around 7:45 - 8:15 ish. Figured we could run some short races with a track vote.

 

[Johnnypenso]

I have to hit the gym so I won't make it tonight. Unfortunately all I see above are red "X's"..

 

[cnd01]

I have to hit the gym so I won't make it tonight. Unfortunately all I see above are red "X's"..

I won't be able to make it either. I will be working for another 3 hours it looks like.