Ordonez confirms Gran Turismo 6
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i don't understand the people who say they want gt6 on the ps4. What you're basically asking for is another 5 year wait just to get one game. As it's been said many times before, pd just created a new engine for gt5 on the ps3, and that is something that took quite a huge chunk of their development time. It would make little to no sense to have gone through all that work and then just completely scrap it and re-build a completely new one again for another system. Why not build off the same engine it took you so long to create and expand in a majority of areas and voila! You've got a fresh new gt game in about half the time on the same platform.
THIS!
This, just may me slightly better. Thank you CorvetteConquer.
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jabofu
If the want GT6 a free to play game i would
a) throw my PS3 out of the window and send them to PD or Sony
b) Would destroy the GT5 disc
c) I would write a letter and wish them the very best in failing and closing Sony, because of debts.
Free to play is a No Go for me. I really like Sony but if they think they can use Cloudgaming and Free to Play instead of retail games i will not buy 1 Sony product ever again.
I want that Sony survives if they support AAA games digital or retail.
I don't think it'll happen with GT6.
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Free to Play is based on micro transactions to make money. You receive base content, let's say 50 cars and 5 tracks, and then have to purchase the rest in bundles or individually. I assume his complaint is the cost for the customer would be higher overall.
I don't think it's a horrible idea depending on pricing. The positive is you only pay for content you want. Didn't they consider this for the original GTHD concept?
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- GTP_Orido
Free to play is possible, put a free 100 miles driving mileage every 12 hours or so that will fill a bar, you have 5 bars for free. Want more, buy more bars of 100 miles each for certain amount of money, winning races offline and online also recharge the mileage bars - eg every win would get 5-50 miles recharge - depend on the length and difficulty, the more/less active or worst the player, the more likely he/she has to buy extra bars of mileage from PSN. 5 bars of 100 miles each could be priced at 1 dollar.
That would be interesting .. much like the currently available for free to play Gundam Battle Operation in Japan - it has the same charge system. I played it for free, haven't bought the play energy charge yet.
That would be interesting .. much like the currently available for free to play Gundam Battle Operation in Japan - it has the same charge system. I played it for free, haven't bought the play energy charge yet.
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Zuku
Ok
The biggest problem is that Free2play is 90% of the time Pay2Win.
Do you want hundreds cars and a full game for 60$ which gets cheaper after the release.
GT5: A Edition cost 30€. Free2Play content will never get cheaper and it costs more at the end? Or spend hundreds of $ for one game, if you like it?
EA said this too. Free2play isn't free and the companies can make more money. EA noticed some negatives for the companies too. I hope they'll listen to EA.
They should notice that if a gamer spend money on 1 free2play, she/he will not use money for 2-7 other games in that year. But Publisher do release more games.
GT Free2play could sell cars, tyres, tuning, fuel, tracks and so on. That isn't customer friendly it is against them.
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Driving mileage would be the only thing that costs real money in the game, cars, tracks and everything else are free, but still need to be bought with in game credits, would that be too much in terms of real money spending ? Mileage can still be obtained by winning races, completing seasonals, challenges, special events. Mileage will recharge every 12 hours, if someone plays rigorously and consume all those free miles, the bonus miles from the winning can cover it up until to a point it won't, then mileage can be bought with real money from PSN. In order to stay free, keep on winning races, keep the bars filled, or for the lazy - just by more miles with money. It's not perfect, just a simple idea I have after playing the free2play Gundam Battle Op that I got for free from Japan PSN.
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Not even Kaz was keen on the model, for some reason.
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mcfizzle
Do you think it's fair to spend 100$ instead of 60$ or less after a few months ?
Iif i buy a cake for a birthday i want the full cake and don't buy 100 pieces for more money as the complete cake would cost's
If i go in a restaurant and order spaghetti i don't want to pay for every spaghetti. I pay the complete meat.
Ridox2JZGTE
What you want is pay2win. The problem is it'll not be easy to don't purchase. They'll balance the game that you have to buy thinks.
avens
Not true. Why do you think the industry try to achieve Free2Play?
Only EA talked about some negativ points from free2play yet.
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Yes. They had GT4 HD (GT standard) almost ready and would use micro transactions to sell pieces of GT5 (GT premium). Fans gave them hell on forums and they changed the model and made GT5: Prologue from GT premium resources. And after that they failed to have enough resources for "real GT5" and decided to use material from GT standard anyways. And so we got standard cars in GT5.
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If Gundam Battle Operation free2play recently released by Bandai in Japan could do well, it might give other publishers to give free2play concept a try, who knows ? I've been playing the free Gundam game since it's release few weeks ago, there are not only Japanese players, American, European and Asian players are there - not many tho, also free of course to certain extent. I am not sure if the pricing is too high for more plays, but every 2 hours, every player get 1 extra play energy that fills up to 3 charge bars. Winning the match will give play energy as well.
The fact that Bandai dared to venture into this free2play concept, I can't help to wonder if other Japanese game companies would consider to follow suit if Bandai 1st attempt in free2play game is well received by the gamer, at least in Japan. I don't know if this will be a bad news or not for most gamers out there.
I understand the balance of the game to ensure enough profit for the publisher, the worries for us gamers would be how much money need to spend just to keep playing ? It might work well if publisher could find that balance nicely and keep the gamers happy, and Bandai is looking to be one soon if that free2play Gundam gets gamers praise in Japan.
The fact that Bandai dared to venture into this free2play concept, I can't help to wonder if other Japanese game companies would consider to follow suit if Bandai 1st attempt in free2play game is well received by the gamer, at least in Japan. I don't know if this will be a bad news or not for most gamers out there.
I understand the balance of the game to ensure enough profit for the publisher, the worries for us gamers would be how much money need to spend just to keep playing ? It might work well if publisher could find that balance nicely and keep the gamers happy, and Bandai is looking to be one soon if that free2play Gundam gets gamers praise in Japan.
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I agree with you completely. But, I'm confident that GT6 will be a PS4 title, I'm also confident that it won't be a launch title either.
(This is all speculation) PD began development for GT6 on PS3 hardware, and now that Sony is being pressured to release the PS4 (stock value/competition from Nintendo & Microsoft coupled with the dismal sales of the PSVita) it would be safe to assume that GT6 would be pushed to be released on the PS4 (what's new hardware without a killer app? I didn't get a PS3 until 2010 because the system didn't have the games I wanted). Now we have the issue that the game's software was coded for what will be an obsolete system. PD has to rewrite the game for PS4, and with KY being a perfectionist, there will be no chance PD would have the time to have the title ready for launch. I'm confident GT6 will have loads of content and be another great release for the franchise (definitely better than GT5 as 5 was the franchise's first "true" foray into online gaming, also plenty of more real-world circuits as that seems to be the direction the franchise is headed). If the PS4 comes out late 2013 or 2014, GT6 would come out in 2015 at the earliest.
I hope I am wrong!
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name one AAA title that uses that business model. I mean CoD material, not LoL.
Also you have to consider their perspective as company, not what customers would prefer (I want everything for free but that's not gonna happen). It's all about revenue.
And your restaurant example isn't the best. When you order spaghetti you pay for exactly what you want ("freemium") instead of ordering the whole menu (gt5).
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Where are you getting $100 from? Again I said if it was priced fairly I would be okay with microtransactions.
You like this food example don't you? Getting spaghetti is pay as you go, because they didn't make you take the meatballs also. IfI go to Baker's Square I get pie by the slice. More economical for me to buy one slice rather than the entire pie, especially if I don't need the rest. Food and restaurants are bad example against micro transactions because that's exactly what you do, pick and choose and pay for what you want, not forced to buy the entire menu. And I'm not saying microtransactions are better or cheaper in the long run. They are a cheaper upfront way to get into a game, which judging by FarmVille and the like, some people enjoy. I know if given the choice there are a lot of cars and a few tracks in GT5 I wouldn't pay for.
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Question if GT4 is not a launch title for PS4 what's the point of even saying it should be on PS4?
Again we'd be waiting another 5 years in between titles it doesn't make sense GT5 released in 2010 Nov.
So PS4 comes out in 2014 that means 4 years removed form GT5 and then more than likely an extra year cause he'd have to get use to the PS4 system first before just making the game. Which probably would take a year or 2 which could push it into 6 years.
Vs. Having GT6 within the next year or 2.
Again we'd be waiting another 5 years in between titles it doesn't make sense GT5 released in 2010 Nov.
So PS4 comes out in 2014 that means 4 years removed form GT5 and then more than likely an extra year cause he'd have to get use to the PS4 system first before just making the game. Which probably would take a year or 2 which could push it into 6 years.
Vs. Having GT6 within the next year or 2.
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avens
They have other reasons for that.
avens
You don't understand what Free2Play is do you?
avens
I know. But your comparison is worse
restaurant= Publisher
menu= all games from publisher
egg on toast= GT5 = one product
egg=Free2play= piece of 1 product
mcfizzle
100$ was an example. Pricing will not be fair, because if you buy piece for piece it'll always costs much more.
mcfizzle
No i don't like it.
I want to buy products not pieces of a product.
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Regarding GT6, Yamauchi said that he's been working on the framework for the game since immediately after work on GT5 finished. He later added regarding GT6, "We're always aiming for the latest technology and the latest expression." PS4?
http://andriasang.com/con22g/yamauchi_china_joy/
http://andriasang.com/con22g/yamauchi_china_joy/
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Probably .
