Osama Bin Laden is dead.

[nk4e]

Blowing up a train over a long, high bridge in a popular US city.

or a small town.
Looks like it has started.

 

[SRV2LOW4ME]

*snip*

Will you be my bestfriend? Seriously, sometimes I wonder if there isn't a word that doesn't come out of your mouth that I don't agree with 100% or have said at some point myself.

Excellent comments, FK. 👍

 

[Danoff]

Blowing up a train over a long, high bridge in a popular US city.

Derailing, but sure.

 

[Tesla]

There's a CS:S map of the compound : Linky

 

[Joel]

In my opinion pics or it didn't happen

This is what I meant when I said there's no gain for the US to release the pictures. Al Qaeda will use them as propaganda, and people like you will say it's photoshop.

 

[McLaren]

There's a CS:S map of the compound : Linky

Got quite a few servers already maxing it out as well. 👍

 

[slims]

This is what I meant when I said there's no gain for the US to release the pictures. Al Qaeda will use them as propaganda, and people like you will say it's photoshop.

Well there is one thing to gain - not getting sued.
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/05/13/bin.laden.photos.lawsuit/index.html

A conservative legal watchdog group has filed the first lawsuit seeking public release of video and photographs of the U.S. military raid and aftermath that left al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden dead.

 

[nk4e]

This historic lawsuit should remind the Obama administration that it is not above the law."

So if something does happen if the people get what they want, does that make us bad as awhole? If we do not get what we want, how badly are we going to criticize the Obama Administration?

 

[Keef]

So if something does happen if the people get what they want, does that make us bad as awhole?

What do you mean by "something", and why would people forcing the government to abide their own laws be "bad"?

If we do not get what we want, how badly are we going to criticize the Obama Administration?

You sound like you don't want Obama's feeling to get hurt.

 

[nk4e]

If it makes the American people look bad ( thinking about it again, it is pretty obvious answer..) I know that any Administration in their own due time ,gets their share bad comments though at the time. I thought about the big brother waving and pointing his finger " I told you so" .

 

[slims]

So I did a simple search on the Freedom of Information Act. The first exemption in this act is:

(A) specifically authorized under criteria established by an Executive order to be kept secret in the interest of national defense or foreign policy and (B) are in fact properly classified pursuant to such Executive order;

Now I could be wrong but couldn't it be argued that keeping the pictures of Bin Laden from the public is considered an interest of national defense due to the possibility of terrorist retaliation?

 

[FoolKiller]

So I did a simple search on the Freedom of Information Act. The first exemption in this act is:
Now I could be wrong but couldn't it be argued that keeping the pictures of Bin Laden from the public is considered an interest of national defense due to the possibility of terrorist retaliation?

Yes, but then, so could the fact that my wife has a job, I have two cars, three game consoles, HDTV, satellite, and many other forms of excess. It could be argued that every time we do something from fear of terrorist retaliation that Bin Laden's goals on 9/11 were achieved.

I would think that the bigger issue would be if it is a violation of international law.

It should also be noted that Candidate Obama promised not to use these executive orders. So, he does create a political minefield for himself personally by classifying these documents.

 

[MatskiMonk]

International human rights need to respected in all cases...


... hmm,


Actually, sometimes it's just about killing the bad guy. I hope the seal that made the kill had a bad ******* hangover, wore a white vest, and said yippy-ki-yay ****** ******.

 

[Dotini]

Sun Tzu (The Art of War) and Niccolo Machiavelli (The Prince) would thoroughly agree assassination is the winning strategy. This is all very well and good when you're #1. When the shoe is on the other foot, it may not feel so fun.

Rule of Law = 0, Rule of Jungle = 1

 

[MatskiMonk]

Sun Tzu (The Art of War) and Niccolo Machiavelli (The Prince) would thoroughly agree assassination is the winning strategy. This is all very well and good when you're #1. When the shoe is on the other foot, it may not feel so fun.

Rule of Law = 0, Rule of Jungle = 1

People that take responsibility for killing thousands of innocent people should expect to get their asses kicked... whichever side they are on.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

It took America ten years to find bin Laden. But it could be worse - it took Serbia sixteen years to find Ratko Mladic.

 

[TenEightyOne]

It took America ten years to find bin Laden. But it could be worse - it took Serbia sixteen years to find Ratko Mladic.

No... it took Holland sixteen years

Serbia undoubtedly knew where he was, but now they want Accession status they've had to hand him over. Don't forget that the man is a Nationalist hero... and there you have clear similarities between Serbia and Pakistan.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Except that neither Serbian President Boris Tadic nor Prime Minister Mirko Cvetkovic are ultra-nationalists. Indeed, they defeated the nationalist government to get into power.

 

[arora]

Except that neither Serbian President Boris Tadic nor Prime Minister Mirko Cvetkovic are ultra-nationalists. Indeed, they defeated the nationalist government to get into power.

Taken from the link you provided...

Since his indictment in 1995, Mladic lived almost openly in Belgrade until 2000 when former Yugoslav president Slobodan Milosevic was toppled. The ouster of his one-time mentor robbed Mladic of his untouchable status.

Even afterwards, though, Mladic hid under military protection, authorities in Serbia have admitted.

Confirming the parallel below to a tee.

Serbia undoubtedly knew where he was, but now they want Accession status they've had to hand him over. Don't forget that the man is a Nationalist hero... and there you have clear similarities between Serbia and Pakistan.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Uh-huh. And as Osama bin Laden proved, it's entirely possible to hide in plain sight. Likewise, the guy who gave Mladic the order to carry out the Srebenica massacre - Radovan Karadzic - completely changed his identity and appearance to remain hidden for twelve years.

 

[The Bman]

Ok, so with all of these protests and riots going on across the world, would you-know-which-group take advantage of it?

And if the U.S. released photos of you-know-who's corpse then wouldn't we have been attacked by now?

And worse... if legit. http://www.google.com/hostednews/af...ocId=CNG.e738123e4ccce6019851c695501ca633.9e1

 

[gogatrs]

Any news on the newest South Park episode?

 

[sumbrownkid]

Any news on the newest South Park episode?

Yeah South Park really needs to pump out an episode about Bin Laden's capture.

 

[nk4e]

Since the raid of the compound. The media is now showing us that bin Laden had plans against the US.

 

[Dennisch]

“It should be sent for example to ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN and maybe PBS and VOA. As for Fox News let her die in her anger,” Gadahn wrote.
“From a professional point of view, they are all on one level — except (Fox News) channel, which falls into the abyss as you know, and lacks objectivity, too.”

 

[Dotini]

A new article by top investigative journalist Seymour Hersh.
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n10/seymour-m-hersh/the-killing-of-osama-bin-laden

For one thing, it confirms something I had suspected all along: Bin Laden was being help prisoner in that compound. I studied the architecture of it and came to the conclusion it was in fact a place of confinement, a prison.

 

[TenEightyOne]

A new article by top investigative journalist Seymour Hersh.

Sourceless Hersh? The very same?

This story is compelling and I guess it can never be proven one way or the other, the White House won't change their story (in this term at least), the Pakistanis won't change theirs, and the Taliban won't change theirs.

That leaves an open playing field for fantasy writing. Hersh may have won some awards but he's also been described as "the most gullible investigative journalist I've ever encountered" (Schlessinger Jr), Amir Tahir has noted that "As soon as he has made an assertion he cites a 'source' to back it. In every case this is either an un-named former official or an unidentified secret document passed to Hersh in unknown circumstances... By my count Hersh has anonymous 'sources' inside 30 foreign governments and virtually every department of the U.S. government." and in a recent controversy he accused American troops of the sodomy of young boys.

The real miracle of this story is that people still print his rubbish, I think. He wouldn't last long on GTPlanet for sure

 

[Dotini]

Sourceless Hersh? The very same?

This story is compelling and I guess it can never be proven one way or the other, the White House won't change their story (in this term at least), the Pakistanis won't change theirs, and the Taliban won't change theirs.

That leaves an open playing field for fantasy writing. Hersh may have won some awards but he's also been described as "the most gullible investigative journalist I've ever encountered" (Schlessinger Jr), Amir Tahir has noted that "As soon as he has made an assertion he cites a 'source' to back it. In every case this is either an un-named former official or an unidentified secret document passed to Hersh in unknown circumstances... By my count Hersh has anonymous 'sources' inside 30 foreign governments and virtually every department of the U.S. government." and in a recent controversy he accused American troops of the sodomy of young boys.

The real miracle of this story is that people still print his rubbish, I think. He wouldn't last long on GTPlanet for sure

I don't think you had time to read the whole article before replying. But no matter.

 

[TenEightyOne]

I don't think you had time to read the whole article before replying. But no matter.

I did and it was a thoroughly enjoyable read. Nonetheless it's sourceless and cobbles together rumours tied together with speculation.

There are believable elements, certainly. The point I was making is that like many of Hersh's flights of fantasy it's impossible to separate his fact from his fiction. He's made a career of the style.

 

[Dotini]

Is it a beautiful lie or an ugly truth?