Osama Bin Laden is dead.

Delta forces kill him aparently,quite shocking news,but now who will be al-Qaeda leader's?
and how al-qaeda will repond to such events?

Probably it will become a worring situatuation for people within the states,with cells that probably will take retaliation.
 
One thing is certain - world won't be at peace.
Ok, he's dead - so what now?
USA will find someone else.
 
Just waiting for the movie about this. Especially with that guy on twitter.

EDIT: Could be made by Disney with the prince getting married and the bad guy dead. (have to wonder who's worse off? Hehe)
 
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Delta forces kill him aparently,quite shocking news,but now who will be al-Qaeda leader's?
and how al-qaeda will repond to such events?

Probably it will become a worring situatuation for people within the states,with cells that probably will take retaliation.

The new "face of the franchise" is Al-Zawahri. Al Qaeda is not your typical chop-off-the-head-and-it-dies organization though. You have to get rid of the motivation for people to join and participate in Al Qaeda directives before you deal with the remaining members.

Hopefully Michael Scheuer has some kind of inside info and will write a new book on the situation now that Osama is dead.
 
Osama was some kind of icon to the organization though, I'm quite sure they'll feel the blow now he's dead.

Wishing death to someone else isn't a very decent feeling, but I can only say I'm glad he's dead for all atrocities he has done.

Funniest thing is that people even considered he was hiding on the triple frontier between Brazil, Argentina and Paraguay, and he was right there on his own backyard, playing cards and having barbecues.... :rolleyes:
 
Delta forces kill him aparently,quite shocking news,but now who will be al-Qaeda leader's?

Here's a good article from the BBC, which outlines al-Aaeda leadership.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11489337


There seems to be no shortage of applicants:


Ayman al-Zawahiri


Abu Yahya al-Libi


Khalid al-Habib


Adnan el Shukrijumah


Atiyah Abd al-Rahman


Saif al-Adel


Mustafa Hamid


Saad Bin Laden


Hamza al-Jawfi


Matiur Rehman


Abu Khalil al-Madani


Midhat Mursi


Fahd Mohammed Ahmed al-Quso


Adam Gadahn


Nasser Abdul Karim al-Wuhayshi


Anwar al-Awlaki


Abou Mossab Abdelwadoud
 
Here's a good article from the BBC, which outlines al-Aaeda leadership.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11489337


There seems to be no shortage of applicants:

Ayman al-Zawahiri
Abu Yahya al-Libi
Khalid al-Habib
Adnan el Shukrijumah
Atiyah Abd al-Rahman
Saif al-Adel
Mustafa Hamid
Saad Bin Laden
Hamza al-Jawfi
Matiur Rehman
Abu Khalil al-Madani
Midhat Mursi
Fahd Mohammed Ahmed al-Quso
Adam Gadahn
Nasser Abdul Karim al-Wuhayshi
Anwar al-Awlaki
Abou Mossab Abdelwadoud

All of them are free and alive?,since al-qaeda has a cell based structure is very posbly that they will split up the leadership,but from some readings is very likely that al-Zawahiri will take command of al qaeda,BTW is amazing to consider how close Bin Landen was from the PMA academy,just a couple of stores away,have a look:

tststst.jpg
 
Maybe the FBI were browsing Google Maps in a coffee break and saw that map pin saying Bin Laden's location, and thought 'hey, maybe we'll check it out....'
 
Manager: Ayman al-Zawahiri

Goalkeeper: Abu Yahya al-Libi

Left Back: Khalid al-Habib
Right Back: Adnan el Shukrijumah
Centre Back: Atiyah Abd al-Rahman
Centre Back: Saif al-Adel

Left Wing:Mustafa Hamid
Right Wing: Saad Bin Laden
Defensive Midfielder: Hamza al-Jawfi
Attacking Midfielder: Matiur Rehman

Centre Forward: Abu Khalil al-Madani
Striker: Midhat Mursi

Subs:
Fahd Mohammed Ahmed al-Quso
Adam Gadahn
Nasser Abdul Karim al-Wuhayshi
Anwar al-Awlaki
Abou Mossab Abdelwadoud

With Osama Bin Laden gone as Manager, here's how I think Team Al-Qaeda will restructure. I think that al-Zawahiri will take over as manager/head coach, atleast for the London Olympics in 2012, and maybe until the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow... of course, coming back to Glasgow will be tough for Al-Qaeda after their 2-0 defeat at Glasgow Airport in 2007 (John Smeaton scoring with a brilliant header for Glasgow, Kafeel Ahmed was on fire, but burned out in injury time).
 
Yev
One thing is certain - world won't be at peace.
Ok, he's dead - so what now?
USA will find someone else.

Totally agreed. Bin Laden death doesn't solve anything. It might be good for raising Obama's popularity and US troops spirits, but now backfire is to be expected.
 
of course, coming back to Glasgow will be tough for Al-Qaeda after their 2-0 defeat at Glasgow Airport in 2007 (John Smeaton scoring with a brilliant header for Glasgow, Kafeel Ahmed was on fire, but burned out in injury time).

:sly: Awesome.
 
You'd never be satisfied with anything he does. Thankfully, most people aren't so blinded with such disdain for the President - especially at a moment like this.

You have no clue what you're talking about. I turned on his speech with a grin, expecting only good things to come from his mouth. Never in my wildest dreams did I expect such a pathetic excuse for a speech.

Danoff's words were pure disdain. You might feel otherwise, but I know it when I see it.

You'll see why this is wrong in a moment.

Funny how the guy responsible for making this happen (Obama) gets hated on for saying the very thing he should have said.

Uh... what? Saying President Bush nabbed Saddam Hussein would be a bit of a stretch. Saying Obama is responsible for capturing Bin Laden is ludicrous. The fact that you have that impression only makes his speech that much worse.

If any of you think you wouldn't say the same thing as Obama did, you're not a president. He's showing leadership.

Taking all the credit is not showing leadership. I'm not sure you know what the word means.

I too do not share Danoff's cynicism regarding Obama's speech in many regards - while Obama perhaps could have emphasised the bigger picture more, I feel that it goes without saying how important this is in the wider context. Obama does say "thanks to the tireless and heroic work of our military and our counter-terrorism professionals" and praises their "extraordinary courage and capability", but I don't blame him for mentioning the current administration's redoubling of efforts to take Bin Laden out. While it will be viewed by some (cynics included) as a mere point-scoring exercise, I don't see it that way myself. Bin Laden was likely never going to be taken alive, so killing him was arguably the only way to serve justice upon him - and hence, whoever was at the helm when it was finally achieved deserves praise, not criticism. Bush had eight years to do it, but it clearly wasn't a priority - he even pretty much said so himself. Obama's speech does have an element of triumphalism to it, but then again, why shouldn't it?

One thing is for sure - this makes Pakistan (or atleast the Pakistani authorities) look very bad indeed.


I have far far greater disdain for Hillary Clinton than Obama. It's not even close really. But Hillary did a MUCH better job of commenting after Bin Laden's death.

Hillary Clinton
"“Our message to the Taliban remains the same, but today it may have even greater resonance. You cannot wait us out. You cannot defeat us. But you can make the choice to abandon al-Qaeda and participate in a peaceful political process.”

^^ This.

Also what Bush said:

Bush Jr.
"The fight against terror goes on, but tonight America has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes, justice will be done."

^^ This.

Here's what Obama said (to any would-be terrorists watching in the middle east):

Obama
You hurt us very badly on September 11th. We are pathetic, we are victims, and we're still reeling from your abilities to inflict harm on us with no resources and few men. Also we're incompetent. Bush Jr obviously did nothing to find Bin Laden, and I alone within our government was able to get things done. Our military couldn't find him, our previous president couldn't find him - but I did. I guess it's all up to me. Oh, and by the way, count on us to continue imposing our will throughout the world regardless of sovereignty.

^^ Not that. Congrats to Hillary Clinton - possibly my single most hated politician - for getting this one spot on.
 
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I find it very disturbing that people are marching through the streets, celebrating the death of someone. Yes he has caused the loss of life all over the world, but humans beings deserve better than this.
 
I find it very disturbing that people are marching through the streets, celebrating the death of someone. Yes he has caused the loss of life all over the world, but humans beings deserve better than this.

Their are celebrations of death in some cultures in means of honouring and remembering them, but not when someone died.

I just hope they are not celebrating in his honour.
 
Their are celebrations of death in some cultures in means of honouring and remembering them, but not when someone died.

I just hope they are not celebrating in his honour.
They are ignorant, but the reality is that, nothing will be better, the world have suffer from problems to long to just be "fixed". In all time there have been wars, and groups that try to go against the society.

Personly i dont care, al qaida has many people that can take Bin Ladins place. And as usuall, al qaida is very infiltrated in the society, and have loyal members all around the world, maybe some on this forum as well, who knows.

The people that got caught are only the ones that screws up, the real enemy is hidden. Just as the prison gangs, they controll everything.
 
I like this one:

George J. Tenet, director of the CIA at the time of the Sept. 11 attacks, expressed gratitude Monday on behalf of “those of us who worked against bin Laden and al-Qaeda going back to the mid 1990s, across three administrations.”
 
Listening to the BBC link that I posted, oil prices went down.
Bin Laden's former sister-in-law tells the Associated Press that he would have wanted to die "rather than face justice in an American court". Swiss-born Carmen Bin Ladin, who separated from his brother Yeslam more than 20 years ago, says she believes Osama Bin Laden had powerful supporters who protected and funded him up until the end.
 
I like this one:

George J. Tenet, director of the CIA at the time of the Sept. 11 attacks, expressed gratitude Monday on behalf of “those of us who worked against bin Laden and al-Qaeda going back to the mid 1990s, across three administrations.”
Against? Against? I could have sworn they were helping this guy before somebody decided chasing him would be a good way to convince us to give up more freedoms in support of the fight.
 
Against? Against? I could have sworn they were helping this guy before somebody decided chasing him would be a good way to convince us to give up more freedoms in support of the fight.

Blowing up our stuff tends to sour the relationship.
 
Well if this report is to be believed Obama did in fact participate a bit more than simply "rubber stamping" the operation.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110502/ap_on_re_us/us_bin_laden_the_raid
WASHINGTON – Helicopters descended out of darkness on the most important counterterrorism mission in U.S. history. It was an operation so secret, only a select few U.S. officials knew what was about to happen.

The location was a fortified compound in an affluent Pakistani town two hours outside Islamabad. The target was Osama bin Laden.

Intelligence officials discovered the compound in August while monitoring an al-Qaida courier. The CIA had been hunting that courier for years, ever since detainees told interrogators that the courier was so trusted by bin Laden that he might very well be living with the al-Qaida leader.

Nestled in an affluent neighborhood, the compound was surrounded by walls as high as 18 feet, topped with barbed wire. Two security gates guarded the only way in. A third-floor terrace was shielded by a seven-foot privacy wall. No phone lines or Internet cables ran to the property. The residents burned their garbage rather than put it out for collection. Intelligence officials believed the million-dollar compound was built five years ago to protect a major terrorist figure. The question was, who?

The CIA asked itself again and again who might be living behind those walls. Each time, they concluded it was almost certainly bin Laden.

President Barack Obama described the operation in broad strokes Sunday night. Details were provided in interviews with counterterrorism and intelligence authorities, senior administration officials and other U.S. officials. All spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive operation.

By mid-February, intelligence from multiple sources was clear enough that Obama wanted to "pursue an aggressive course of action," a senior administration official said. Over the next two and a half months, Obama led five meetings of the National Security Council focused solely on whether bin Laden was in that compound and, if so, how to get him, the official said.

Normally, the U.S. shares its counterterrorism intelligence widely with trusted allies in Britain, Canada, Australia and elsewhere. And the U.S. normally does not carry out ground operations inside Pakistan without collaboration with Pakistani intelligence. But this mission was too important and too secretive.

On April 29, Obama approved an operation to kill bin Laden. It was a mission that required surgical accuracy, even more precision than could be delivered by the government's sophisticated Predator drones. To execute it, Obama tapped a small contingent of the Navy's elite SEAL Team Six and put them under the command of CIA Director Leon Panetta, whose analysts monitored the compound from afar.

Panetta was directly in charge of the team, a U.S. official said, and his conference room was transformed into a command center.

Details of exactly how the raid unfolded remain murky. But the al-Qaida courier, his brother and one of bin Laden's sons were killed. No Americans were injured. Senior administration officials will only say that bin Laden "resisted." And then the man behind the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil died from an American bullet to his head.

It was mid-afternoon in Virginia when Panetta and his team received word that bin Laden was dead. Cheers and applause broke out across the conference room.
 
What a horrible speech from Obama for such an important occasion. It went from "Al Qaeda hurt us really badly, boo hoo" to "I personally am responsible for everything" to "America does what it wants where it wants" WTH? None of that works.

How about a little more focus on our military, a little more focus on the message that we want to send, a little more focus on the bigger picture... terrible speech.

Also... awesome that we finally got him.

You'd never be satisfied with anything he does. Thankfully, most people aren't so blinded with such disdain for the President - especially at a moment like this.
I guess he should have had the mansion bombed to rubble, stood on it and planted a banner saying "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, FOR REAL" and then some people would have been satisfied.
 
It's Amazing what the Americans can do when the PS3 Network is down LOL (found it on fb)


Not all of us... all I was able to accomplish was getting a platinum trophy on God of War.

💡...Some accomplishments... smaller than others, but accomplishments non the less.
 
I dunno about all this. I'm a part time conspiracy theorist and I feel its a bit too convenient that while the world was staring at an extra irrelevant wedding, the government shows up with Osama's body?

Hmmmm....
 
Danoff as Obama
You hurt us very badly on September 11th. We are pathetic, we are victims, and we're still reeling from your abilities to inflict harm on us with no resources and few men. Also we're incompetent. Bush Jr obviously did nothing to find Bin Laden, and I alone within our government was able to get things done. Our military couldn't find him, our previous president couldn't find him - but I did. I guess it's all up to me. Oh, and by the way, count on us to continue imposing our will throughout the world regardless of sovereignty.
Interesting interpretation. The thing is, Obama did at least get the job done - finally. And it doesn't really matter to me how soppy you think Obama's words are - killing Bin Laden kind of says it all really.

Some of what you perceive Obama to be saying is, whether we like it or not, pretty close to the truth. We are still reeling from the advent of suicide attacks in our countries, and it is a new reality for us and we will have to learn to live with it.

It did take far too long to bring Bin Laden to justice (or just waste him, take your pick), and the pursuit of Bin Laden until recently was, for want of a better word, incompetent. I might also add the words half-hearted, which is a considerably more harsh assessment than merely 'incompetent', as it implies a lack of desire rather than a mere lack of skill/resources.

Either way, I do agree that Obama ought not to be showboating over this, and credit should be given to all of those who are responsible for tracking the bastard down and killing him. But, it is inevitable that Obama will take what credit he is due.
 
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