Osama Bin Laden is dead.

[Touring Mars]

First of all, it's good to hear that this. Concerns regarding bloodlust notwithstanding, it is perfectly understandable to see people in the streets of New York celebrating.

I too do not share Danoff's cynicism regarding Obama's speech in many regards - while Obama perhaps could have emphasised the bigger picture more, I feel that it goes without saying how important this is in the wider context. Obama does say "thanks to the tireless and heroic work of our military and our counter-terrorism professionals" and praises their "extraordinary courage and capability", but I don't blame him for mentioning the current administration's redoubling of efforts to take Bin Laden out. While it will be viewed by some (cynics included) as a mere point-scoring exercise, I don't see it that way myself. Bin Laden was likely never going to be taken alive, so killing him was arguably the only way to serve justice upon him - and hence, whoever was at the helm when it was finally achieved deserves praise, not criticism. Bush had eight years to do it, but it clearly wasn't a priority - he even pretty much said so himself. Obama's speech does have an element of triumphalism to it, but then again, why shouldn't it?

One thing is for sure - this makes Pakistan (or atleast the Pakistani authorities) look very bad indeed.

 

[Ardius]

^Not that Pakistan already displayed their "helpfulness" with regards to Afghanistan and global terrorism? I thought it was common knowledge that Pakistan was thought to be where he was hiding.

Also, I thought this line from the BBC article is pretty suspicious:

A US official quoted by Associated Press news agency said Bin Laden's body had been buried at sea, although this has not been confirmed.

Why did they do that? They better be pretty sure they killed him otherwise they're going to look pretty silly when he turns up alive.

 

[McLaren]

^Not that Pakistan already displayed their "helpfulness" with regards to Afghanistan and global terrorism? I thought it was common knowledge that Pakistan was thought to be where he was hiding.

Also, I thought this line from the BBC article is pretty suspicious:


Why did they do that? They better be pretty sure they killed him otherwise they're going to look pretty silly when he turns up alive.

They're doing to make sure his final resting place is never known & doesn't become some burial shrine for terrorists. They plan to do that to whomever is next in command as well.

 

[gambleboyen]

Amazing what the americans can do when the PSN is down.

 

[lbsf1]

Amazing what the americans can do when the PSN is down.

 

[Sprite]

Pretty good news and a little bit of release for those with family in the attacks on 9/11 and 7/7.

 

[Grayfox]

I don't think he really is dead.

From what i heard he had kidney issues that needed him to be on dialysis every day as well as live in a clean room.

With $50,000,000 on his head any one that saw him that was not apart of Al-Qaeda would have made a tip hoping to get the huge reward.

Plus i can't see bin larden allowing himself to be caught or killed by the U.S, he would rather kill him self than let the US kill him or even capture him.

Or it could be a look a like.

So if the world thinks he is dead but really isn't he could do more as no-one would expect an attack again.

Since the US took the body we have no real proof, unless a soldier uploads a video of it(like the Saddam video)

 

[HumanDestroyah]

Amazing what the americans can do when the PSN is down.

OP should change the thread title to " PSN outage causes Osama's demise."

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Why did they do that? They better be pretty sure they killed him otherwise they're going to look pretty silly when he turns up alive.

It means the reports that bin Laden had been buried at sea had not been confirmed, not his actual death. They buried him at sea because a grave somewhere on the land would become a shine for terrorists to rally around. Right now, Osama bin Laden is probably sinking to the bottom of the Indian Ocean.

 

[McLaren]

Plus i can't see bin larden allowing himself to be caught or killed by the U.S, he would rather kill him self than let the US kill him or even capture him.

Which is why he probably didn't see the attack coming & why a woman was killed in the process (reports say he tried to hide behind someone). This was an extremely low-key operation carried out by SEALs, & Obama did say that the intel was not shared with anyone.

Or it could be a look a like.

Don't think a double will have the same DNA.

So if the world thinks he is dead but really isn't he could do more as no-one would expect an attack again.

Since the US took the body we have no real proof, unless a soldier uploads a video of it(like the Saddam video)

Unless he suddenly re appears in a new video claiming Obama is a liar, he's dead. Reports say his son was killed with him.

 

[CAG_Theory]

All Hail Obama!​

 

[McLaren]

All Hail Obama!​

Obama didn't do anything but authorize the attack. This also isn't some silly monarchy, so no one is going to be "hailed".

 

[Dennisch]

Conspiracy

You really think that Obama would be so stupid? Bringing out fake news?

If that's the case Obama will be gone the day that comes out. 👎

Let's just wait for the confirmation with some pictures, which most likely will come, before going nuts with a conspiracy.

 

[Bram Turismo]

"Amazing what the americans can do once PSN is down"

!

 

[Alex.]

It's a great achievment for mankind, obviously everyone is glad the man is dead. Those saying that he isn't dead and it's all staged in an Obama point scoring excercise, while I think you are in serious anti-Obama denial, I can see that the USA are perfectly capable of something like this. Now isn't the time or place for criticizing or praising Obama though. He's made a statement after authorising the operation and that's pretty much it. I wonder if they'll let us know who the ops were?

 

[McLaren]

It's a great achievment for mankind, obviously everyone is glad the man is dead. Those saying that he isn't dead and it's all staged in an Obama point scoring excercise, while I think you are in serious anti-Obama denial, I can see that the USA are perfectly capable of something like this. Now isn't the time or place for criticizing or praising Obama though. He's made a statement after authorising the operation and that's pretty much it. I wonder if they'll let us know who the ops were?

Considering the possible threat of retaliation they are preparing for, highly doubtful. We may never know just who the men were until they're on the deathbeds.

 

[Alex.]

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[Robin]

This will be a huge PR boost for Obama as his ratings have been in a nosedive. Its good that Osama is finally dead but as others have said I would have preferred to see him on trial.

Also its slightly irksome that they have gotten rid of the body so quickly, you would have thought they would have shown pictures of the body to the public so people can feel reassured that he's gone.

Amazing what the americans can do when the PSN is down.

Now all we need is Xbox live to go down and maybe we can achieve world peace.

Robin.

 

[Dennisch]

^^^^

 

[C-ZETA]

I can't think of a comment here that would not offend anyone in the world even slightly...

 

[Alex.]

Now all we need is Xbox live to go down and maybe we can achieve world peace.

Robin.

A shame it is then, that XBOX Live is much more reliable than PSN. I guess we're paying for something.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Obama didn't do anything but authorize the attack.

You do realise he had to play this one carefully, right? The last time anyone got a bead on Osama bin Laden's location, he was holed up in the Tora Bora mountains. America went in with all guns blazing without verifying the intelligence, and bin Laden got away. They claim they "missed him by hours", but men like bin Laden would only need a head start of thirty minutes to slip away. Obama had to sit on this intelligence and work it until he was confident that it was legit, or else risk losing the one chance he - and maybe America - would have of catching bin Laden. He had to pick his time, to catch bin Laden unawares. Sure, maybe he might have only given the order to go ahead with the operation, but bear in mind that the operation never could have taken place without his say-so.

 

[Grayfox]

I think i read somewhere that if he was ever killed or captured, Al Qaeda would go on a killing spree.

But i can't confrim it since i don't remember where i read it.

 

[McLaren]

You do realise he had to play this one carefully, right? The last time anyone got a bead on Osama bin Laden's location, he was holed up in the Tora Bora mountains. America went in with all guns blazing without verifying the intelligence, and bin Laden got away. They claim they "missed him by hours", but men like bin Laden would only need a head start of thirty minutes to slip away. Obama had to sit on this intelligence and work it until he was confident that it was legit, or else risk losing the one chance he - and maybe America - would have of catching bin Laden. He had to pick his time, to catch bin Laden unawares. Sure, maybe he might have only given the order to go ahead with the operation, but bear in mind that the operation never could have taken place without his say-so.

Thank you, Cpt. Obvious.

Regardless, Obama only deserves credit for authorizing. The real credit goes to this people who gathered that intelligence & the troops who carried it out. All those people risked their lives for that.

 

[Neocodex]

They clearly found Osama Bin Laden via his hacked Playstation account details.

 

[Dennisch]

They clearly found Osama Bin Laden via his hacked Playstation account details.

How awesome would that be!!!

All this time we have been racing Osama on the 'ring

 

[DK]

^ Nah, he's on Black Ops, he's the arsehole who is always camping and has one hell of a K/D ratio.

 

[C-ZETA]

^ Nah, he's on Black Ops, he's the arsehole who is always camping and has one hell of a K/D ratio.

At least he wasn't on Machinima... That would have given the game away a whole lot sooner.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

I think i read somewhere that if he was ever killed or captured, Al Qaeda would go on a killing spree.

But i can't confrim it since i don't remember where i read it.

It was one of his lieutenants, who claimed al'Qaeda had a nuclear device and would use it somewhere in Europe in the event that bin Laden was captured or killed. He apparently made this claim while being held at Guantanamo Bay, which means it was probably in about 2004 or 2005; the information was only recently released by Wikileaks. Whether he was being honest or simply boasting in an attempt to scare America remains to be seen, but you can bet that America would have taken it seriously and followed up on it.

 

[C-ZETA]

He apparently made this claim while being held at Guantanamo Bay, which means it was probably in about 2004 or 2005; the information was only recently released by Wikileaks.

Well, if it was that long ago, then why haven't they found more on that? I know it was only recently found out, but it was so long ago that it probably isn't actually a possibility now.