First off, JoeyD, what motorsport
do you like?
Nascars themselves are as old school as the tracks they drive on. They're still in the dark ages. oval shaped track, they don't have center lock wheels, they still have carby engines and only have a 4 speed gearbox.. it's like they never wanted to come out of the 60's.
Everywhere else around the world has state of the art racing circuits with technical left and right hand turns, hills that go up and down, huge pit crews with one man for each wheel, state of the art refueling devices, center lock wheels, fuel injected engines.
and then there's Nascar. Oh dear.
Thanks for describing what makes NASCAR so unique and thus interesting. It annoys me to no end how most of the world's motorsports look like Formula 1 copy cats in presentation and execution. People complain so much about the lug nuts, yet they say stock cars aren't "stock" enough. The double standard rears its head again.
So every motorsport that doesnt have 50 guys service a car in a pit stop that takes no skill and that takes just 5 seconds is garbage? Ill watch a few guys struggle to make time during a 15 second pitstop over 50 guys not having to rush changing the tires in 5 seconds.
If you put it in the hands of the circuit only people around here NASCAR would end up being nothing more then another garden variety regional touring car series like BTCC, DTM, Super GT, V8 super car etc. Basically another clone with no real personality or anything that differentiates itself from other motorsports.
quickben
I'll probably give the NASCAR cars a go in GT5, just not the oval tracks. We've had the test track in GT for years now and I can't remember the last time I considered going on it. I can't think of anything in the game more boring than driving flat out constantly with just a couple of "bends" to brake the monotony. I know there's more to it than that but, be honest, there's not much more to it is there ? For me, there's not much difference between oval racing and drag racing. Neither of them challenge the entire dyamic capabilities of a car and therefore neither of them hold much interest for me.
Only two tracks in NASCAR are flat out, and thats only because they use restrictor plates there that rob them of 400 horsepower, otherwise they'd have to lift even at Daytona. You lift more often at short track ovals then any road course in the world.
quickben
I like accelerating\braking, I like perfecting gear changes, I like left AND right turns, I like chicanes.
These aren't very well represented on an oval track.
Again, outside of the restricted superspeedways you have to accelerate and brake on the ovals. And, as I said earlier the short tracks require more frequent accelerating, throttle control, and braking then any roadcourse.
As for left and right hand turns, your average clockwise course is usually made up of 75% or more of right hand turns, leaving maybe just 4 or 5 left hand turns. All this crying so the course can have 4 or 5 corners that go a different direction.
As for chicanes, I think you know these things are nothing more then cheap ways to slow the cars down and offer no challenge.
Of course you will have the people who would rather race any trash road course then even the best of ovals. These people can be described as those who would take only the best looking of women no matter how crappy the personality or hygiene, but hey, they overlook these faults because shes pretty. However they want nothing to do with the mild mannered "average" looking woman who, if you get to know her, can be infinitely more interesting then the stupid blonde.
Well I'm with IsmokeGT. I hope PD has a 36 race NASCAR oval championship with full length 4 hour races and no B-spec allowed just to tick you guys off
Nobody is asking anyone to love oval racing, but it's certainly not garbage as many have made it out to be. I mean the idea people can be shown 3 wide finishes, all sorts of passing, big packs, closing racing and then they call it boring because there is no right hand turns or chicanes? I just have to think something must be wrong with their Madula Oblongata. What do they want NASCAR to do, make Daytona's backstretch chicane part of the NASCAR race? Would that suddenly make the racing more interesting? Or as one moron suggested run the Indy 500 on the roadcourse?
However I must refrain from being too harsh as not everyone has had the privledge to grow up with and understand every motorsport as I have.
Its called inertia.
I think it is time for the Boss...
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