Ovals VS Road Courses
- Thread starter Sam48
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I'd like to see more road tracks but considering that there are 2 road tracks in the NASCAR season (Sprint cup)... Anyway If they choose to put ovals in they could atleast put 10 different types of it, from bristol to vegas to martinsville to talladega.
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- AlexHIggo
Thats becuase their exciting and the tracks have left and right turns.
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- GTP_Nismo
I'm sorry but ovals are extremely boring. Honestly, there's no need for sleeping pills.. if you're having trouble sleeping take a few laps around an oval course and you'll be nodding off in no time.
on top of that there's really no challenge.
Nascar isn't my thing either but at least I'm not as ignorant as you.
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- England
- AlexHIggo
When you watching a F1 car go 150mph around a circuit like Monaco were the track is surrounded by metal barriers just inches away from the track and thats not exciting
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- paulpg87
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ooohh, left and right turns.... amazing... that really makes all the difference, I guess that explains why after lap 2 the cars follow each other in an ever lengthening single-file parade for 2 hours... has me on the edge of my seat waiting to see who is going to pit next
Also, can I point out that if there is anything like 70 tracks in the game, it's highly unlikely that there will be more Ovals than road circuits in the game - there are less than 30 ovals used in all three of the NASCAR series'.
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- Ardius_
Really? How many racing games have you played or even real tracks have you driven? Have you not found a track exciting?
There are many, many tracks I have found exciting for a variety of reasons. Be it from enjoying them through playing them in games, watching others tackle them in real life or just the drama that happens at certain circuits.
- 599
- England
- AlexHIggo
ooohh, left and right turns.... amazing... that really makes all the difference, I guess that explains why after lap 2 the cars follow each other in an ever lengthening single-file parade for 2 hours... has me on the edge of my seat waiting to see who is going to pit next
Ok take the 2009 Brazilian GP, Vettel starts 15th on the grid and finishes 4th, Button starts 14th and finishes 5th, Hamilton starts 17th and finishes 3rd and 1st and 2nd was very close until Rubens got a puncture, so how did they manage that if all the cars do is follow each other?
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- Ardius_
I'd rather not get involved in these arguments, but I have to point out you are missing the glaring problem with current F1. (Overtaking is mostly done in the pits).
NASCAR and F1 have their own elements which make both entertaining to watch. I watch F1 to see drivers on the limit at the best circuits in the world catching each other and pulling off stunning overtaking manouvres (or not). In F1, overtaking is an art and a quality rather than a quantity, and it has always been this way. Most of the action is in strategy, laptimes and watching drivers tackle some tough circuits. Some will find this boring if they don't enjoy watching battles in laptimes and like lots of immediate on screen action. This is fair enough, but I think sometimes people don't appreciate the awe of watching a car go through Becketts complex at Silverstone at 150mph - no where else do you see this and when you do see it you can't believe it.
In NASCAR overtaking itself is a little less special but the skill, excitement and overall entertainment is no less, its just there for different reasons.
No one is "right", we just have different sports to go with different tastes. Which is a good thing.
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When you watching a F1 car go 150mph around a circuit like Monaco were the track is surrounded by metal barriers just inches away from the track and thats not exciting
You do not find the track exciting. You find exciting what happens at the track. It's a big difference.
But do you find exciting an empty track?
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- Ardius_
When I'm controlling a car going through Eau Rouge, yes I do.
And I know what you are doing, taking "track" literally - no one means the tarmac itself is exciting, they mean they enjoy the layout, scenery and the effects the circuit has on racing and what its like to drive it.
Its not hard to understand.
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When you watching a F1 car go 150mph around a circuit like Monaco were the track is surrounded by metal barriers just inches away from the track and thats not exciting
Try doing that with a car that has MUCH less braking power, weighs twice as much and won't hesitate to spin the tires from Japan to Jupiter the second you touch the throttle.
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- paulpg87
f1 is way way better (IMO)
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I respect that. I don't watch F1 but do you see me throwing it down the sewer? No. It's people with the lack of intelligence saying NASCAR is simply making left turns. One reason they say that is because people have not had a chance to play a game that simulates the physics of NASCAR. Instead we have been stuck with EA Sports "hold it near wide open at Bristol" games.
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It is, at least for some people. Otherwise, they would realize ovals and road courses are boring. What happens in them is what is exciting, and it's the reason NASCAR, a motorsport that is usually run in ovals, isn't boring, because the race is what it is exciting. To me, at least, it's honestly exactly when I am the one driving a car. Watching NASCAR or F1 in TV is boring to me. I prefer NASCAR, because I can easily keep track on what's going on.
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- Ardius_
Ovals are not entirely boring to everyone, like any configuation of track, they demand certain styles of driving and can be extremely challenging at the limit, especially in a NASCAR. It creates a certain kind of racing, just the same as a narrow track stops overtaking opportunities or a long straight into a hairpin creates them.
Track layouts are one of the many reasons people enjoy motorsport, but they are not the only reason.
What you are saying is that you enjoy the sport irrespective of circuit layout, which doesn't mean you cannot prefer or enjoy a layout more than others as it does effect the racing.
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- spagetti69
Tracks are only exciting based on their makeup. A straight piece if track could be described as boring. Although without one there would be no drag racing. Add a chicane and things become interesting. How about a hairpin and long sweeps. I'm not knocking ovals at all and I respect everyones veiws. Personally. Just from a tuning standpoint, setting up cars for "Traditional" tracks is more involving including my own driving style grip etc.
So yes a "track" can be exciting based on it's content.
Oval is new to me and I'm looking forward to drafting and other disciplins it will bring me.
The more variety the better.
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