Over 60% Of GT5 Vehicles Were Japanese, Will GT6 Be Any Different?
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This thread is pretty funny. But I could not care less for having more Japanese cars or not. I'd actually rather have more Japanese cars really since those are the cars I know most XD.
^ This. Really gives me a frown when I try to find cars over at the used car dealership, only to find duplicates of cars I already have in my garage.
^ This. Really gives me a frown when I try to find cars over at the used car dealership, only to find duplicates of cars I already have in my garage.
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If we're talking about US versus Japan, it's very subjective, but in my opinion, there are many Japanese cars in the 90s that are worthy of being in a game, as oppose to American cars in the 90s. Not only that, the automobile market in the US is also dominated by Japanese cars anyway.
The Japanese 90s consists of many legendary cars like Skylines, Evos, Stis, NSX, RX7, Supras, Silvias, GTOs, and many more. It was probably the best decade of automotive history, personally. That said, a lot of those have continued production in the 2000s, so that adds on a lot to the roster. With all these cool cars, and PD being a Japanese company, it only makes sense that we get a lot of them.
With the US, you have muscle cars to show and PD have already given respect to them as early as GT2, if we're talking about the classics of classic. However, I don't think there is as much variety of American Cars as Japanese Cars, which is why that even on an American game like Forza Motorsports, the amount of American Cars don't dominate even though they're a domestic company.
And PD being bias? Please explain the past winners of SEMA.
The Japanese 90s consists of many legendary cars like Skylines, Evos, Stis, NSX, RX7, Supras, Silvias, GTOs, and many more. It was probably the best decade of automotive history, personally. That said, a lot of those have continued production in the 2000s, so that adds on a lot to the roster. With all these cool cars, and PD being a Japanese company, it only makes sense that we get a lot of them.
With the US, you have muscle cars to show and PD have already given respect to them as early as GT2, if we're talking about the classics of classic. However, I don't think there is as much variety of American Cars as Japanese Cars, which is why that even on an American game like Forza Motorsports, the amount of American Cars don't dominate even though they're a domestic company.
And PD being bias? Please explain the past winners of SEMA.
Where's the FOX bodied mustang? It's introduction in 79 was considered by many to be the beginning of the second golden age of American muscle. The 93 absolutely must be in the game. Both in GT and LX trim. AND the '84-'86 Mustang SVO is conspicuously absent.
I think the Japanese sleepers are pretty well represented, but the euro sleepers aren't at all.
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Gonna stop you right there. We aren't. We're talking about Japan versus everyone else. Europe has a similarly poor representation as the US. It's an issue of "a somewhat comprehensive history of the Japanese automotive industry" compared to "whatever has been on sale in the other regions since GT2 came out, seemingly chosen at random; plus some cars from the late 1960s/early 1970s."
Though the argument that the reason that GT ignores other regions because they simply didn't have anything interesting is a new one.
That holds true for most regions of the world in that time period, and yet the only country with decent representation is Japan. One BMW, two if you count the V12 LMR, from that entire decade; with nothing from the 1980s. Not a single roadgoing European car from the Group A years besides the Lancia Delta and 190 Evo II. Alfa Romeo's entire brand is condensed into the DTM car and things newer than the 156. Audi didn't make anything between the original quattro and the original S4. Volkswagen didn't even exist after 1976 until the Millennium. Nevermind Aston Martin.
And contrary to GT logic, the 1980s and 1990s absolutely existed for American automakers. A 40 year gap in Pontiac's history with nothing; no Firebird, no Fiero, no Sunbird Turbo, nothing. Dodge spent 15 years making cars, most of them turbocharged, that tore up SCCA club racing events (one of them was even used as the "basis" for an entire racing series for a few years); and none of them have any presence because Dodge jumps from the Hemi Charger to the Viper GTS. Ford tinkered with turbocharging the Mustang in the 1980s and by the start of the 90s had the Fox body down to enough of a science that it absolutely flooded racing events; plus also had 3 cars designed to compete with the Lexus SC. But the only road going Ford in the entire game from the 1990s is the jellybean Taurus. Having 3 "different" Honda Civic EG hatchbacks covers the excitement factor instead?
Doesn't make much sense at all when you look at other games. That also doesn't explain why between those 8 models there are almost certainly more than a hundred cars in the game; and that extremely 90s JDM-heavy carlist also comes at the expense of Japanese cars from the 1980s. Mitsubishi's output of that decade is nearly nonexistent; and besides a couple of Honda Civics and an Accord so is Honda's.
The reason that American cars don't dominate Forza is because it has a much more balanced car list. Not because there just aren't any more cars to model.
The GT SEMA award is (and always was) a publicity event. No explanation necessary. There are less SEMA winners to date (nevermind ones modeled and included in the game) than there are versions of Mitsubishi 3000GT.
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Kazunori Yamauchi appears to be a Japanese car enthusiast, but he has to learn to tailor his game for a worldwide audience, especially the European audience which has been the biggest purchaser of Gran Turismo titles for the last 2 titles now
There should be more European cars in the game then Japanese, but I dont think that will change
There should be more European cars in the game then Japanese, but I dont think that will change
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I just hope for better diversity. Like a Mustang GT500, Boss 302, and Camaro ZL1, but also Mazdaspeed 3, Renault Meagan RS (the last body style), and the Focus ST (the new one). I would like to see the Fiesta ST on one hand and the Koenigsegg Agera R on the other. Kia Rio hatches along with a RUF RGT V8. Big lux cars (Aston Rapide, Quatroport, Lexus GS F-Sport). Maybe even a Ford Raptor or a Cherokee SRT8. Just please be diverse.
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More japanese cars are fine as long as they are unique and not slight variations of the same car, like the Skylines for example. Skylines are great cars, but they could've included many other old japanese cars like Mazda R100, RX2, RX3, RX4, Mitsubishi Galant FTO, Galant, Galant Sigma, Lancer fastback, Toyota Corolla KE70, plus many many more! I wish they would even include old japanese vans made before 1990, imagine how much fun it would be to race with those boxes on wheels, would definatly make the most of the new GT6 physics with the body roll on those vans!!
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The site owner. The site rules are quite clear on the subject of useless posts.
Simply questioning a statement? No it was unwarranted sarcasm that added nothing to the discussion at all.
Now if you want to ask the question again in a reasonable manner, without the attitude and nonsense then feel free to do so.
Doesn't work like that. If you post on a public forum then you open your comments up for public comment. If your not happy with that then why post on a public forum?
I strongly suggest that you cut the attitude right now, it may well be acceptable on other forums you have used, but it will not serve you well here at all.
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No I didn't I got to that reply and posted hastily. Please accept my sincerest apologies.
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Ha, no need to apologise my friend. Just remember to, if possible, read the whole thread next time
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I think PD are improving though when it comes to car variety. For instance in the GT5 DLC (excluding the first pack), there were more European and American cars than there were Japanese-and only 2 GT-R's. Honestly, as long as there's variety in the new 200 cars (from historics like the Audi Quattro Rally car to the new like the Alfa TZ3), I'm fine with that-Although would you be so kind PD to add some premium Australian cars .
Agreed. This is how PD can balance things out.
.Agreed. This is how PD can balance things out.
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Pretty convenient to ignore that pack, isn't it? Ten of those fifteen cars were Japanese, four were Skylines/GTRs. Then we get two more GT-Rs and hey guess what one of the first cars announced for GT6 is? The GT3 version of Kaz's GT-R.
They're not learning at all.
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in reply to the title. Yes it will change. 61% will be Japanese. In reality I don't care as long as I get to enjoy my favorite Mercedes and BMWs as I always have
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There's also been 4 of these added:
So it's kinda a wash.
Hmmm, I kinda appreciate the differences between prototypes and the final Scion, Toyota and Subaru models, the differences seem to be accurately done.
Of course, I would prefer to trade 2 or 3 variations for different car models.
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Hmmm, I kinda appreciate the differences between prototypes and the final Scion, Toyota and Subaru models, the differences seem to be accurately done.
The point is that they accurately modeled the differences of 3 cars that in real life are so similar they might as well be trim levels of each other; explicitly after even Kaz noted that people aren't particularly appreciative of PD doing that anymore with cars in the series even when they do do it right (see the discussion two pages ago for an example of when they don't bother).
When the thread is basically "will PD change their methodology for including cars and have a more international focus" and the DLC paints a picture that they probably won't, it's hard to say they will definitively even if they do do a good job with it.
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I love all the cars! I'm owner of a German car opel tigra and I love it. ..I love to see more cars except Japanese in gt6
but I don't have problem with the "60% Japanese cars"
because the Japanese cars is
"pure machine technology".
For the threat I have to tell this:
Haters gonna hate!
but I don't have problem with the "60% Japanese cars"
because the Japanese cars is
"pure machine technology".
For the threat I have to tell this:
Haters gonna hate!
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Which is why it should be in GT5. Not why every version needs to be, including the concept car that was only made in real life to show that the production car would look different from the other two concept cars that are also in GT5.
They are by the same manufacturer and distributed among the other brands (all of whom Toyota either outright owns or has a stake in the ownership therein) in an attempt to recoup development costs. The differences between them are so minute that they amount to the front and rear bumpers, some interior/exterior trim and the gauge colors.
For comparison, there are many more major differences between these two cars made at the height of GM's badge engineering craziness:
Than any of the BreezeFrees models.
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