Over 60% Of GT5 Vehicles Were Japanese, Will GT6 Be Any Different?

[TokoTurismo]

On this point I would agree, what are even worse are the exact same cars, simply with different names (Clio / Lucieta for example).

Nooo, I have those two cars in my gerage in GT5 and I love them.

Going by PD logic, "variety" counts as having multiple versions of the Mazda Miata, Toyota Yaris, and other unnecessary copies of the same cars. Why does anyone need more than one of each generation of Miata? NA, NB, NC. One car for each generation would be enough.

I may not collect those cars. However I do ignore the rest and collect some of them. You have to know others may love them too you know...

 

[Famine]

Am I not entitled to my opinion?

No.

You're entitled to hold whatever opinion you wish, but you're only entitled to express that which you can reasonably defend - and there is no reasonable defence to remove cars from a GT game that other people enjoy driving simply because you don't.

The grounds that these occupy space that could be taken by other cars that you might enjoy driving is baseless - every car that can be in a GT game already is and we know this because they are. There is oodles of space left on the disc, so there are no space limitations - these nasty little cars you don't like aren't occupying space that could be better used.

PD are simply limited by what they know about (they're making a car encyclopaedia and introducing niche manufacturers like KTM and LCC to the world... do you think they don't know about some cars that you do?), what they want (ibidem), what they can licence (this is the biggie), what they can get hold of to model and the time they have.

The assumption that other cars can be on the disc instead of the cars you don't like requires you to believe PD either lack knowledge of cars, lack desire for cars, went to the trouble of getting an expensive licence and chose not to bother, went to the trouble of getting an expensive licence without getting hold of a car to model or went to the trouble of getting an expensive licence and ran out of time.


Incidentally, the proportions of cars in Gran Turismo by region are:
GT1 - Japan 89.9%; Europe 3.7%; North America 6.3%; Other 0%
GT2 - Japan 67.4%; Europe 21.4%; North America 11.1%; Other 0%
GT3 - Japan 63.2%; Europe 24.7%; North America 11.6%; Other 0.5%
GT4 - Japan 62.0%; Europe 24.8%; North America 11.4%; Other 1.7%
GT5 - Japan 60.4%; Europe 26.5%; North America 12.0%; Other 1.1%

You can spot the trend yourself.

 

[Dodzzz]

It's nice to have those "varieties" or duplicate cars.. at least it's educational.

 

[The Flex]

So this guy is just a straight up troll then? Trolling against both GT and FM is certainly a new one.

Why am I being labeled as a troll here?

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

I don't get why so many people complain about some of the cars that are in GT. Not having them would not mean that there would be one of your favorite cars in its place it would just mean that we would have a few less cars to choose from and the one that isn't there may be the one we actually liked the most and of course that would vary from person to person.

It seems a lot of people think that a game such as this should be overloaded with Veyrons and other such super fast high powered cars and while those types of cars can be cool we need to have all types of cars. I personally do not like the Veyron and would rather drive a MX-5 or an S2000. Yes Gt is loaded with Japanese cars but that is hardly surprising and not a bad thing.

I would like to see more muscle cars, more classics, more race cars and of course Porsches but I do not really want anything removed.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Why am I being labeled as a troll here?

That wasn't directed at you, it was to the OP.

 

[Rob192005]

I would like to see more muscle cars, more classics, more race cars and of course Porsches but I do not really want anything removed.

This,save muscle cars for more European cars new and old but this of course is just my own personal taste.

 

[The_Rpg_Moogle]

oh and Nascar and US musclecars too.

I can say the same about Nascar, not necessary because all they do is driving in ovals and they all look almost the same, except for some liveries and maybe 2 or 3 models. See what I did there? GT caters to all kinds of racing enthousiasts, and there's a group for those little kei cars (me for example, love them!)

And GT already has more musclecars than any other game, if I recall correctly.

 

[BJhartopp]

It is good to see a trend on the GT series that is shifting away from Japanese vehicles. I do kinda agree that some of the cars I feel as pointless (Kei in particular) dont need to be in the game over something more desirable... But taking out something that has already been done is counter productive.

Everyone will have a dream car list that they want in GT games. This will vary by a huge amount based on where in the world you live.. PD will NEVER be able to cater to every ones tastes but based on the GT6 trailers... they are certainly moving int he right direction (for me)

Edit: No offence meant!

 

[Scaff]

It is good to see a trend on the GT series that is shifting away from Japanese vehicles. I do kinda agree that some of the cars I feel as pointless (Kei in particular) dont need to be in the game over something more desirable... But taking out something that has already been done is counter productive.

Everyone will have a dream car list that they want in GT games. This will vary by a huge amount based on where in the world you live.. PD will NEVER be able to cater to every ones tastes but based on the GT6 trailers... they are certainly moving int he right direction (for me)

Please use Japanese, the shortened version is a pejorative that is not acceptable when posting on GT Planet.

 

[Samus]

Nooo, I have those two cars in my gerage in GT5 and I love them.

You love it. It's the same car. Your garage wouldn't be diminished if you lost one of them. Buy two Clio's, it's the same.

Why am I being labeled as a troll here?

That wasn't directed at you, it was to the OP.

Yes sorry to not be clear, I was indeed referring to the OP, not you. He started some flamebait threads in the Forza section as well.

 

[TokoTurismo]

You love it. It's the same car. Your garage wouldn't be diminished if you lost one of them. Buy two Clio's, it's the same.

Oh I know they're the same, no worries on that one.

 

[Famine]

It's nice to have those "varieties" or duplicate cars.. at least it's educational.

In parts.

In others it's silly. In the real world a Mazda MX-5, a Mazda/Eunos Roadster and a Mazda Miata are all different - at the very least the Roadster is RHD while the Miata is LHD (and the MX-5 is both). In GT5 they aren't. The trim levels are all Japanese ones too - there is literally no such thing as an MX-5 VR-Limited or a Miata S-Special.

There's 34 MX-5 variants in GT5 as a result, when there's really only 12 of them that exist. And with 12 MX-5 models to pick from I could represent the entire range of engines, gearboxes and generations (not just "one from each gen") with cars that actually behave differently...

 

[The Flex]

OP is right.

 

[TokoTurismo]

OP is right.

Of PD being bias idiots? Wow Flex....

 

[The Flex]

Wouldnt exactly call them idiots, clowns maybe sounds more appropriate.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Wouldnt exactly call them idiots, clowns maybe sounds more appropriate.

Well. Yes there are to much Japanese cars in GT (standard cars), but the OP to me is just being a troll to both franchises imo.

 

[Famine]

It's a pity you still feel the need to hold that opinion and believe that you have the ability to express and defend it, given that the concept underpinning it has been disproven.

But hey, that's the internet for you.

 

[TokoTurismo]

It's a pity you still feel the need to hold that opinion and believe that you have the ability to express and defend it, given that the concept underpinning it has been disproven.

But hey, that's the internet for you.

Me? Uh oh, I hope not. I'm trying to be careful this time not to hold anything.

 

[AudiMan2011]

I can tolerate the Japanese cars in the game. I just have an issue with the ridiculous amount of duplicates.

 

[The Flex]

I need more BMWs and Audis

 

[Famine]

I can tolerate the Japanese cars in the game. I just have an issue with the ridiculous amount of duplicates.

Oooh, I did that too.

Removing all the duplicates gives you:
GT5 - Japan 54.1%; Europe 31.4%; North America 13.2%; Other 1.3%

 

[TokoTurismo]

I can tolerate the Japanese cars in the game. I just have an issue with the ridiculous amount of duplicates.

Agreed about the duplicates for sure.

 

[The_Rpg_Moogle]

Agreed about the duplicates for sure.

Three'd.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

Since GT6 will have all cars from GT5 I am guessing 61% of the cars in GT6 will be JPN cars.

I have no problem with the large amount of JPN cars, I just hate the large quantity of the same exact type of car. That's what happens if you don't have vinyls or the ability to have advanced customization like engine swaps and body kits. Its also how they hit the goal of 1,000+ cars. Sounds great on paper, not so great while playing. Duplicate cars and 80% standards is not a good way to hit a goal.

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

And GT already has more musclecars than any other game, if I recall correctly.

I think Forza 4 after DLC has a few more in the muscle car department though GT does have several

 

[the_racer100]

No. There is going to be a difference in the number:

passing from 60% to 70%!

I loooooooove Japanese cars, but come on, I can't tell the difference from a Daihatsu Sirion X4 to a Daihatsu Stória CX4 (the 4WD one). And the ridiculous number of Skylines, even though it's perfect for a collector like me, is idiotic for a regular player.

Honestly, Gran Turismo should be more worried about cars like the Koenigsegg Agera R, or trying to lurk moar to get the licence to Porsche, not trying to put a new chrome effect on a car and saying it's different.

Let's put some upgrades and decals on a Miata and call it an "Anniversary Birthday Special Edition Tuned MX-5 Miata 1234 RTTS Super Quick Car" and give it to them. Would they like it? Just kidding.

 

[The_Rpg_Moogle]

I think Forza 4 after DLC has a few more in the muscle car department though GT does have several

That might indeed be, I've never counted them. At least the muscle cars I want are in the game, and I'm extremely glad with them. It's not high on my priorities list to have even more, although I always welcome new cars to GT, any car I might add.

 

[HAL20XX]

I actually like the large number of Japanese cars in the GT series and I'm fine with them adding more. What bothers me is when they target a very small niche and spend their efforts on that when they are missing some very iconic global cars.

However, I'm not surprised. I was vacationing in Japan 2 months ago and it was incredibly rare to see any cars that weren't Japanese. I didn't even see a single Hyundai in my two weeks there. If you did see a non-Japanese car, it was almost 100% that it was some performance car (McLaren MP4-12C, '69 Camaro Z28, Ferrari 458 Italia, SRT8 300). I think the heavy bias has a lot to do with their culture as well as unfair importation regulations (some say).

 

[The_Rpg_Moogle]

I think the heavy bias has a lot to do with their culture as well as unfair importation regulations (some say).

You raise a good point. However, could you please expand on how importation regulations would have anything to do with virtual cars?