Parents Not Letting Their Kids Learn Manual

I know you can get distracted when driving. But, if having a stick coming out of the floor distracts you to the point where it is considered lethal, that person has no place on the road ever.
 
Automatic. I had to learn driving the 8-6 and other manuals by myself in abandoned parking lots. It was frustrating but my mom wanted me to learn, she said it's a good skill to have =P Plus she had an FB RX-7 so she knows the joys of manuals XD

But yeah I think it's pretty sad that manuals are declining, sure paddle shifters are new and great and all, but it doesn't feel as direct to me. But that's just me.
 
What's the standard in American DMV schools, automatic or manual?

Auto.

I know you can get distracted when driving. But, if having a stick coming out of the floor distracts you to the point where it is considered lethal, that person has no place on the road ever.

Sorry, you're just wrong. To a new driver a stereo can be lethal, checking a blind spot can be lethal. Almost anything can be lethal, and yet jumping to the conclusion that because someone is vulnerable while they learn to drive that they should never learn to drive is ridiculous. Lots of people learn to drive despite the potential lethality of every aspect of it.
 
And you comparing manuals to your 1 year old daughter playing with knives to a manual is ridiculous. In the UK, a tiny number of people take tests in an auto. Everyone I know who has taken their test did it in a manual, and they're currently alive and driving just well. If a person has to take several years of learning without absolutely anything in the car, just to keep the thing on the road, they just aren't drivers. When I take my test in a couple of years, i'm sure i'll have some distractions. But if I was ever distracted by every last detail of the car, i'd have to take a step back and realise I am not safe on the roads.

Distractions are not something that come up exclusively in your driving test. Every day when you drive your car, you will come across hundreds of distractions. If they get to you in any way, you're just dangerous.
 
And you comparing manuals to your 1 year old daughter playing with knives to a manual is ridiculous.

You said parents shouldn't determine what is too hard for their children to learn, you were wrong.

In the UK, a tiny number of people take tests in an auto. Everyone I know who has taken their test did it in a manual, and they're currently alive and driving just well.

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Yes you can learn to drive in a manual, this is well known. I did, millions of people have, that's not the point.

If a person has to take several years of learning without absolutely anything in the car, just to keep the thing on the road, they just aren't drivers.

Good thing nobody argued that. This is very sloppy reasoning.

When I take my test in a couple of years, i'm sure i'll have some distractions. But if I was ever distracted by every last detail of the car, i'd have to take a step back and realise I am not safe on the roads.

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Distractions are not something that come up exclusively in your driving test. Every day when you drive your car, you will come across hundreds of distractions. If they get to you in any way, you're just dangerous.

Agreed.

And guess what, when you're learning how to drive, you're very dangerous to you and the people around you.
 
It's interesting reading the views of someone who's not a parent AND does not drive...

VS

Those of us who are, and do..


Interesting.;)
 
It's interesting reading the views of someone who's not a parent AND does not drive...

VS

Those of us who are, and do..


Interesting.;)
If you're having a go at me because of my age, fine. Just don't expect me to take it very kindly.
 
Lol what?!? Am I the only one of the opinion that automatics should be outlawed? The way I see it the only reason anyone should ever drive an auto is because they are missing an arm, or some other physical restriction.
 
Lol what?!? Am I the only one of the opinion that automatics should be outlawed? The way I see it the only reason anyone should ever drive an auto is because they are missing an arm, or some other physical restriction.
You can drive a manual with one finger and you don't need to have years of experience. Now for one leg I'm not really sure but it could be possible.
 
Honestly, when you first start to learn to drive, no you should not be on the road at all. You're terrible at it. You get on the road so that you can learn, and learn fast. When you first learn to drive, everything is a distraction.

This, all if this.


Although I will say that the actual understanding of the gears and rpms can be skipped over when transitioning from auto to manual if the kid learns it at a young age.

I've heard that it's easier to learn things as a child, so it would make sense to get them on dirtbike.

Learn sequential shifting at 5-7, and they could be on a clutch bike before they're 10.
 
Lol what?!? Am I the only one of the opinion that automatics should be outlawed?

Obviously not.

Frankly, I don't see why anyone cares what someone else uses in their car. It's pretty much like everything else that has people with elitist attitudes, unless you want to pay for my car and all related costs, shut your pie hole and keep your stupid opinions to yourself and I'll do the same with mine.
 
No one ever taught me, I just bought a junker subaru 5-speed as my first car and taught myself. Proud to say I've never owned an automatic, and don't particularly wish to.
 
To be fair, it's vital that people learn to drive a Manual Transmission... As not only does it mean that if you have one in the future - you're able to use it... But, I also found it helped me learn how to drive in a way. With an Auto, you press pedals and turn the wheel - nothing complicated about that. With a Manual, you learn much more the aspects of actually driving a car; and it means also that you can focus on what your doing more and not getting so distracted.
 
Frankly, I don't see why anyone cares what someone else uses in their car. It's pretty much like everything else that has people with elitist attitudes, unless you want to pay for my car and all related costs, shut your pie hole and keep your stupid opinions to yourself and I'll do the same with mine.

I think you wandered into the wrong thread. This thread is about what transmission parents train their kids to drive on. You seem to be looking for the manual vs. automatic thread.
 
As much as I love to drive manual cars, at this day in age for your general every day street driving, it just isn't necessary. A better question is do you actually know how to drive yet? You're better off in an automatic car until you learn how to properly drive. I find I'm personally more focused driving a manual transmission, it was hard at first to get used to, but now it's so easy that it feels like second nature to me.
 
If you're having a go at me because of my age, fine. Just don't expect me to take it very kindly.

Saying it's interesting means I'm having a go? I made a general comment based off the attitude of the thread.:rolleyes:

I think once again you miss the point..Take it however you wish.;)
 
Saying it's interesting means I'm having a go? I made a general comment based off the attitude of the thread.:rolleyes:

I think once again you miss the point..Take it however you wish.;)
No mate, I just thought you were having a go at me because of the connotations of your post and its placement just after mine.
 
Lol what?!? Am I the only one of the opinion that automatics should be outlawed? The way I see it the only reason anyone should ever drive an auto is because they are missing an arm, or some other physical restriction.

Yes. That post is now a front runner in the competition for "Most Asinine Opinion on GTP."
 
In the grand scheme of things, theres bigger lessons for kids to learn than how to drive a stickshift. Especially considering how nowdays manuals are so rare.
 
I don't have kids, but I think the "parents know what's too hard for their kids to learn" isn't as undoubtful and true as some here present. Ofcourse you don't let your 15/16 year old go bungee jumping and aligator wrestling, but learning to drive a manual, especially if the kid wants to? Dangers are everywhere, everyday as you go outside you face potentialy lethal situations every few seconds - crossing the street, passing by neighbours dog that could tear you to pieces if it jumped the fence and didn't like your perfume, passing by strangers who could be potential rapists/muggers/murderers/Jahovah vitnesses, riding a bus that could blow up in flames at any second for any reason. You think the chances of any of that happening are miniscule? Well, same goes for learning a manual. Yes, everything's a distraction for a person who has only a few hours of driving experience, but driving a manual by no means is a difficult task to learn, especially if the person in question is willing to learn it. If a kid wants to learn a non-lazy task that requires a bit of concentration and know-how, in my eyes the parents should only encourage it. Also, parents telling their conscious-age kids that they are "not smart/good enough" to do a task that's perfectly normal for a person of that age to do, are doing anything but a favour for the child. What would you have felt like if at the age of 6 your parent's wouldn't have allowed to draw with crayons with the other kids? Or refused to take off the training wheels off your bike well after you have learned how to ride a bike? There are little things that make a teen-aged person feel worse than his/her closest people telling him/her that he/she isn't good enough to do everyday tasks that he/she is willing to.
 
I don't have kids, but I think the "parents know what's too hard for their kids to learn" isn't as undoubtful and true as some here present. Ofcourse you don't let your 15/16 year old go bungee jumping and aligator wrestling, but learning to drive a manual, especially if the kid wants to? Dangers are everywhere, everyday as you go outside you face potentialy lethal situations every few seconds - crossing the street, passing by neighbours dog that could tear you to pieces if it jumped the fence and didn't like your perfume, passing by strangers who could be potential rapists/muggers/murderers/Jahovah vitnesses, riding a bus that could blow up in flames at any second for any reason.

All of which are parenting issues that need to be tackled as the kid grows.

Yes, everything's a distraction for a person who has only a few hours of driving experience, but driving a manual by no means is a difficult task to learn, especially if the person in question is willing to learn it. If a kid wants to learn a non-lazy task that requires a bit of concentration and know-how, in my eyes the parents should only encourage it.

I agree. Optimally it is fostered. Optimally learning to drive is done in stages of increasing difficulty. I intend, for example, to force my daughter to drive on a frozen pond as part of her driving education.

Also, parents telling their conscious-age kids that they are "not smart/good enough" to do a task that's perfectly normal for a person of that age to do, are doing anything but a favour for the child.

Preferably when you tell them they're not good enough, you also call them ugly.

What would you have felt like if at the age of 6 your parent's wouldn't have allowed to draw with crayons with the other kids? Or refused to take off the training wheels off your bike well after you have learned how to ride a bike?

I have no idea who you're talking to now.
 
In the grand scheme of things, theres bigger lessons for kids to learn than how to drive a stickshift. Especially considering how nowdays manuals are so rare.
Only in North America. Travel to Europe and you better know how to drive a manual. I'd imagine it's the same in most parts of the world.
 
If you're having a go at me because of my age, fine. Just don't expect me to take it very kindly.

Lol, slow down there keyboard warrior kid.

You are a very different person before and after you get a license. Before you have no practice before you start driving you only base your views on theory and observations. In theory a 15 y/o kid can know what's the right thing to do (I saw someone commenting on making a stop to text or fiddle with their radio, lol).. When you start driving everything's gonna be different.

When you become a parent, especially one with a teenage kid into cars.. Your parents know more than you guys think haha.
 

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