Paul Walker dies in a car crash.

[Slash]

It's not that people don't care, it's that most people don't know.

 

[CodeRedR51]

It's not that people don't care, it's that most people don't know.

This. Not that I don't care for the guy and/or feel sorry for his family, but I didn't know who he was so I can't really say much about him.

 

[ZeroTheNorth]

I certrainly didnt know anything about Rodas until now. Now that i do, i feel sorry for not only Paul but for him too. RIP Roger Rodas

Also when i get GT6 ill make 2 replica Skylines in honor for Paul. The silver one without the spoiler from Turbocharged Prelude. And the blue skyline (Dont know what movie, cant believe i didnt watch that).

 

[terminator363]

I think people are trying to on eBay, which is why I went with this site which is selling them legit (and not because of the accident) I just wanted one as that particular photo is fantastic and really says a lot about Paul.

Just to confirm though, this site is NOT selling them for any reason connected to the accident. Just trying to help people out in here that might also want one for cheaper than they are going for on eBay. I would stress to hurry though as that 30% off is today only.

Ok sorry, I took that the wrong way.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I’ve been seeing and noticing post about Paul Walker passing in a car crash, which we all know he is a famous guy car. But what of the car guy or gal that passed away that no one knows? Where is all the prays and crying for them? People take noticed to people for the wrong things.

It's hard to know about people you don't hear about...also what he did for the car world and enthusiast around the globe and his charity to the world as well and helping his community at large are all things we've mentioned that are why he is remember. He was a passenger not the driver, and for you to turn this into something else is sick. Make a thread about another car enthusiast that dies and you'll have out pour. For the most part the GTP community is willing to take recognition in anyone that passes as the current events thread and motorsports thread shows. A simple search will inform you but as usual you don't want to do such things.

You probably didn't read the thread either cause you'd see that even the driver was given respect in death though he may have pulled a bone headed move, we still respected the loss. Reading a thread or forum will help stop you from making these ill-informed comments you tend to make.

 

[Zuel]

I read the whole thread @LMSCorvetteGT2, I'm sorry that you missed that.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I read the whole thread @LMSCorvetteGT2, I'm sorry that you missed that.

Well just like I or anyone else can't psychically know when a random car enthusiast dies in the world (hence your post being bizarre), the thread is about his passing, so it's obvious what it will be about. Also we can't read your mind, so if you did read the thread it's hard to understand why you missed us saying RIP Roger Rodas as well. You make us sound absolutely linear and just talking solely about Walker.

For you to come in here asking why we aren't noticing other enthusiast is random and weird and if you have one that you know about make a thread in the off topic. It's very simple.

 

[ShiftingGears]

Second you say they, there is only one driver and not to knock Rodas but he was the driver. So as if it was a joint effort...

They, being occupants of a speeding vehicle. Unnecessary semantics.

The fact remains he was a responsible car owner, and dealt with selling his rare cars along with driving and tuning them. He also was big at track racing, and my point is it is bad enough the news will speculate if the car was involved in street racing or such but we shouldn't unless proven.

I don't think anyone here was speculating that they were involved in a street race. Whatever his hobbies were is a moot point, it comes down to his choice to get into the car with that driver.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

They, being occupants of a speeding vehicle. Unnecessary semantics.

Okay, well your statement was still heavily laced as it being both their ideas to speed around and gallivant so...

I don't think anyone here was speculating that they were involved in a street race. Whatever his hobbies were is a moot point, it was his choice to get into the car with that driver.

Yeah it was a choice, and I've been in cars with people that I weren't aware were going to speed and do boneheaded moves, does that mean if I had died it was my fault for making that choice. There are many things we don't know and it's easy to connect our own dots rather than staying objective on the matter. So once again I speak for many and say try to be impartial on a matter none of us know the full story about.

Also Nicksfix suggested they street raced, so you can go back a few pages and see that.

 

[LeadFootLiam]

This man was a legend. At least he died doing what he loved, and not in agony.

 

[Zuel]

Step in where @LMSCorvetteGT2? I'm still in my house.
I know what the thread is about, it's clearly stated. The point is people only notice when someone of fame passes whom love cars no matter whom they were with. When people pass whom are not of fame no one notices but when someone of fame passes, people jump up and post this and post that, and say we must change this or change that. Some are very thoughtless.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Step in where @LMSCorvetteGT2? I'm still in my house.

In the thread obviously, not sure why the sarcasm.

I know what the thread is about, it's clearly stated. The point is people only notice when someone of fame passes whom love cars no matter whom they were with.

If it's qualm with the rest of the world then state so, but on GTP people have yet again give respects to Rodas. So if you are angry about something outside of GTP it'd be nice for you to be clear on that rather than vague.

When people pass whom are not of fame no one notices but when someone of fame passes, people jump up and post this and post that, and say we must change this or change that. Some are very thoughtless.

Uh, have you not been on facebook plenty of RIP for normal people who pass, I've been to fundraiser car washes for people of the community that I hardly knew and I've seen big out pours in the community when someone dies untimely. They happen all the time, this guy was an international figure though and as such he is obviously going to be big news, but to say others go unnoticed isn't fair.

 

[niky]

When people pass whom are not of fame no one notices but when someone of fame passes, people jump up and post this and post that, and say we must change this or change that. Some are very thoughtless.

People are commenting and paying their respects because they know who he is and what he's done for the community and other people.

When people who are not internationally known pass away here, of course we give them our respects, as well, because we know who they are, even if others do not.

To complain that people here don't notice the death of people they don't know and have absolutely no connection to is kind of pointless and is distracting. By all means, post threads about people who die who might not be well known. Some of us do, already. (I don't, because our local car guys are not known on the 'Planet and the condolences of people who don't know them or even know of them would mean little to us here)

I don't think anyone here was speculating that they were involved in a street race. Whatever his hobbies were is a moot point, it comes down to his choice to get into the car with that driver.

None of us were there, and at this point, it's difficult to speculate. While it's reasonable to assume that when you get into a fast car with an enthusiast, that he will drive quickly and you might get into a minor fender bender... it's not reasonable to assume that you will die when you step into a car as a passenger.

As I said a page ago... there is always a risk when doing anything around high performance automobiles, but there is only so much you can do to predict the level of risk.

None of us here know how good a driver Paul's friend was. Given the Carrera GT's nasty reputation for spitting people off the road without warning, it is not unreasonable to assume that the car and conditions had something to do with the crash, but we will all have to wait for the forensic report.

 

[ShiftingGears]

None of us here know how good a driver Paul's friend was. Given the Carrera GT's nasty reputation for spitting people off the road without warning, it is not unreasonable to assume that the car and conditions had something to do with the crash, but we will all have to wait for the forensic report.

That's why speed limits on public roads exist.

 

[niky]

While this is true, again... we do not know what happened, and again, even if speeding was involved (and it most likely was), Paul was merely a passenger in the crash, not the driver.

 

[Dodzzz]

That's why speed limits on public roads exist.

I strongly agree with this..

At first I was "blaming" the car in my post earlier, but after I think about it.. if only the driver drive at a safe speed (or should I say Granny or Mommy speed), I don't think the car will spin at all, let alone lost control.
I know they're both car enthusiasts, one is a star in a car racing movie, the other is a real race driver, so MAYBE the urge to press the pedal was huge.

But we all know even F1 drivers for example Pastor Maldonado (sorry lol) crashes a lot, in a super high downforce F1 car, so being a race driver doesn't guarantee a crash free racing, especially in that Porsche.

I don't wanna blame anyone, but yeah I agree with ShiftingGears, speed limits exist... to protect us.

 

[GTboyz]

Damn, i still can't believe he's gone forever. That post his daughter made is really touching, almost made me tear up and the post where someone sees a pair of Supra's tail lights on the curb just made me even more sad.

Once again, RIP Paul Walker, you introduced me to Nissan Skylines and good imports and for that i thank you so much.

 

[McLaren]

I strongly agree with this..

At first I was "blaming" the car in my post earlier, but after I think about it.. if only the driver drive at a safe speed (or should I say Granny or Mommy speed), I don't think the car will spin at all, let alone lost control.
I know they're both car enthusiasts, one is a star in a car racing movie, the other is a real race driver, so MAYBE the urge to press the pedal was huge.

But we all know even F1 drivers for example Pastor Maldonado (sorry lol) crashes a lot, in a super high downforce F1 car, so being a race driver doesn't guarantee a crash free racing, especially in that Porsche.

I don't wanna blame anyone, but yeah I agree with ShiftingGears, speed limits exist... to protect us.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but just offering some background on the car involved. From SCCA members.

"The CGT is a bitch to drive and no fun to get moving off the line. The wet clutch tends to snatch pretty hard and with the torque of the V10 it's not hard to get outta shape and wreck the car quickly. More than half of the CGT's ever made have been written off. Grahame Rahal sold his because it tried to kill him once too often and ironically that was Grahame's car"

Walter Rohrl himself is scared of it.

Former world rally champion and Porsche test driver Walter Rohrl told Drive the new Porsche supercar is "the first car in my life that I drive and I feel scared".
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Rohrl, who has been testing the Carrera GT in prototype form for the past three years, said it is so powerful that it spins the rear wheels in each gear up to fifth in its six-ratio box.
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Earlier this year, Rohrl said, the engineering team was about to cancel a day's testing at the famous Nurburgring circuit because of wet weather. But, Rohrl said, when he insisted the car had to be tested in slippery conditions, he discovered the car's daunting performance.

"I came back into the pits and I was white," Rohrl said. "I immediately said to the engineers that we need one button for the wet and one button for the dry", referring to the need for a traction control switch.

Whilst it doesn't excuse what Roger may or may not have been doing, it shows the car in question can be more than a hand full for even the most capable. And as you said, even professionals wreck, so I find it possible Roger caught the car on the wrong end of a maneuver & it bit him, leading to an unfortunate ending.

 

[MatskiMonk]

The point is people only notice when someone of fame passes whom love cars no matter whom they were with. When people pass whom are not of fame no one notices but when someone of fame passes, people jump up and post this and post that, and say we must change this or change that. Some are very thoughtless.

Sorry, but before this I'd never heard of Rodas, he had no bearing, influence, effect or reference within my life, for sure it's a shame, but I feel no sense of loss for him, so I don't feel compelled to post about him.

 

[Dodzzz]

I'm not saying you're wrong, but just offering some background on the car involved. From SCCA members.

Walter Rohrl himself is scared of it.

Whilst it doesn't excuse what Roger may or may not have been doing, it shows the car in question can be more than a hand full for even the most capable. And as you said, even professionals wreck, so I find it possible Roger caught the car on the wrong end of a maneuver & it bit him, leading to an unfortunate ending.

Ah many thanks for the information, McLaren

Scary car indeed

 

[GTboyz]

I'm not saying you're wrong, but just offering some background on the car involved. From SCCA members.

Walter Rohrl himself is scared of it.

Whilst it doesn't excuse what Roger may or may not have been doing, it shows the car in question can be more than a hand full for even the most capable. And as you said, even professionals wreck, so I find it possible Roger caught the car on the wrong end of a maneuver & it bit him, leading to an unfortunate ending.

Man, that car sounds really scary, never knew about that. The wheels spins in each gear, what the hell...

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

A 800+HP Supra with street tire would do the same, wheelspin in each gear. Even a mild modified R33 GTST around 300HP at the wheel will wheel spin changing into 3rd going straight on a damp / slightly wet tarmac.

 

[iMikeTheKing]

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

Very sad indeed especially since Paul was the passenger. I actually liked his character in the Fast and Furious series. Thought he was a pretty good actor for the roles he played in.

The series will probably/hopefully continue. Not sure if they will kill off Paul Walker from the series or just replace him. I personally think Charlie Hunnam from Sons of Anarchy and Pacific Rim would be a good replacement.

 

[Jaywalker]

Shame! Very sad...

 

[CodeRedR51]

Very sad indeed especially since Paul was the passenger. I actually liked his character in the Fast and Furious series. Thought he was a pretty good actor for the roles he played in.

The series will probably/hopefully continue. Not sure if they will kill off Paul Walker from the series or just replace him. I personally think Charlie Hunnam from Sons of Anarchy and Pacific Rim would be a good replacement.

Hate to say it, but I completely disagree. After 6 films (5 staring him) NOBODY can replace him.

Speaking of which, they were not finished filming FF7 and are still trying to fiture out what to do now that he is gone.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=111940

 

[Adamgp]

Not sure if it was posted but the news report confirmed that speed was a factor. Also possible mechanical failure, the steering locked up.

I also saw a horrific iphone video from someone who came upon the wreck site seconds after it happened. Pretty graphic, I won't post it here.

While I never liked the F&F movies all that much, and I thought Paul was a meh actor, seems like he was a pretty cool guy.

RIP, even though it sounds more and more like they were messing around on public roads.

 

[Vic Reign93]

I hate to be the bear of more bad news but a certain group ( which won't be named but you can easily guess who) is planing on picketing Paul's funeral.

 

[sems4arsenal]

I hate to be the bear of more bad news but a certain group ( which won't be named but you can easily guess who) is planing on picketing Paul's funeral.

Yeah That seemed really daft, respect the dead regardless of your opinion.

 

[CodeRedR51]

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Get them while you can. (thanks to @a6m5 for the heads up!) 👍

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