CodeRedR51
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Hard to "race" when it's only one car. Racing usually involved 2 or more vehicles.
Paul Walker dies in a car crash.
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I would say spirited driving - often do this on the twisty roads to fend off the boredom.
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Wow. They were going way faster than the speed limit or the safe speed on that public road. You can't deny that it is completely reckless and stupid, no matter whether the driver was an actual racing driver or not. Shame that it happened the way it did, but you can't say they weren't asking for it.
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So I finally got around to watching Tokyo Drift. Yikes, what a terrible movie. Lucas Black's southern accent was painfully awful. For a movie franchise that has had some terrible race results**, the Viper (on pavement) vs the Monte Carlo (on dirt) has to be right up there in terms of sheer sillyness. However, having now seen how Fast Six tied back in through the end of Tokyo Drift, I'm interested to see where Fast 7 goes from this point.
**Tyrese's Eclipse beating anything in the highway race (Viper, C5 Corvette, Saleen S281, BMW M3) in 2F2F would also rank near the top. Jesse's Jetta being anywhere near Johnny's S2000 in the first movie was also a complete joke, especially if you believe them that Johnny "had over 100k under the hood" of that car.
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I know its a random revive of the thread. But this is some intresting news that came out yesterday.
GT-A International has annonced the sale of the original Skyline GTR R34 that Paul drove in Fast And Furious 4. 50% of the proceeds will go to ROWW.
Heres more info: http://www.gt-a.net/fast-furious.html
GT-A International has annonced the sale of the original Skyline GTR R34 that Paul drove in Fast And Furious 4. 50% of the proceeds will go to ROWW.
Heres more info: http://www.gt-a.net/fast-furious.html
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Just saw this on google news. http://www.inentertainment.co.uk/20140326/paul-walker-killed-by-unsafe-speed-confirm-police
Hate to say I told you so but.....
Hate to say I told you so but.....
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Apparently the tyres of the GT were the factory tyres, so 9 year old tyres and nearly no profil on them anymore
http://www.krone.at/Stars-Society/W..._in_den_Tod-Ermittlungen_beendet-Story-398364
How stupid do you need to be?
For a racing driver like Rodas, it's just plain stupid.
http://www.krone.at/Stars-Society/W..._in_den_Tod-Ermittlungen_beendet-Story-398364
How stupid do you need to be?
For a racing driver like Rodas, it's just plain stupid.
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There are loads of cars out there on inadequate tyres even public transport
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But the city bus isn't usually taking sharp corners at 95mph.
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but it is carrying 20 school who pays 3 pounds each to use the bus at 60 mph and neither did the gt
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- Zenith113
So? How often do buses crash into trees with enough speed to ignite the car and all of its occupants?
The point is that this was no freak accident. The people involved were negligent and reckless enough in their maintenance and/or driving to put themselves into the situation where they crashed.
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Commercial vehicles that are unfit for service because their owners are cost-cutting, negligent, stupid, whatever... that's completely different to a professional driver taking a car out without checking (or understanding the limits of) its condition.
I'm not particularly talking about the accident that this thread refers to, more about that as a general point.
The police statement about the car travelling at "unsafe speed". Isn't that a case of the police report simply stating the truth? I've seen a lot elsewhere on the web that reads a lot more into it but, by definition, the speed was unsafe, wasn't it? If it was safe this thread wouldn't exist for a start...
I'm not particularly talking about the accident that this thread refers to, more about that as a general point.
The police statement about the car travelling at "unsafe speed". Isn't that a case of the police report simply stating the truth? I've seen a lot elsewhere on the web that reads a lot more into it but, by definition, the speed was unsafe, wasn't it? If it was safe this thread wouldn't exist for a start...
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100% correct, though American police (Californian police especially) define anything faster than our asinine speed limits as "unsafe."
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I think it's a freak accident. How easily does a car go up in flames in a crash?
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Lol. Not much any manufacturer can do to make a car safer in a side-on 90mph crash. The Carrera GT already has a CF chassis and the fuel tank is situated within that very strong compartment. It was just an unfortunate coincidence that the pole they connected with sliced into the car at that very point.
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I can't think of many things that can reliably handle a 90mph sideways collision with a tree. The tree is applying a concentrated force and has almost no give. That's a worst case scenario.
You're looking at making a tank if you want to reliably survive that.
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Remember Walker was alive after the accident, the fire was really bad luck. The carbon chassis made the best it could. The fire and carbon chassis is a bad combination though, being a petrol product, if it burns, it burns good.
There is only so much manufactures can do for impact safety, especially at those speeds. You can't change physics. An immediate stop or hard deceleration from high speed in a matter of milliseconds is something our bodies simply can't handle well. There is only so much G Force our body can absorb. Side G Forces being the biggest threat (I think).
You can even walk out of such an accident at own force and die hours later because an organ got teared, leading to internal bleeding.
I just don't get how a high performance shop can neglect something as basic as tires. Its not like the car was completely stock and it was to keep it at factory specs completely and got never driven to keep value. The car was tuned, no?
Now I wonder if there will be someone sueing the shop for that. I don't know how it is in the US, but driving in the EU with such tires, you walk home in case Police stop you, it's illegal.
Such a shame
There is only so much manufactures can do for impact safety, especially at those speeds. You can't change physics. An immediate stop or hard deceleration from high speed in a matter of milliseconds is something our bodies simply can't handle well. There is only so much G Force our body can absorb. Side G Forces being the biggest threat (I think).
You can even walk out of such an accident at own force and die hours later because an organ got teared, leading to internal bleeding.
I just don't get how a high performance shop can neglect something as basic as tires. Its not like the car was completely stock and it was to keep it at factory specs completely and got never driven to keep value. The car was tuned, no?
Now I wonder if there will be someone sueing the shop for that. I don't know how it is in the US, but driving in the EU with such tires, you walk home in case Police stop you, it's illegal.
Such a shame
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Nope.
http://www.sportscarmarket.com/columns/legal-files/2108-carrera-gt-crash-settled-for-4-5-million
Not relevant to this case. Traction control can't do anything against trying to turn a car at 90mph with 9 year old tires.
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FnF 7 will be using Walker's brothers with the help of CGI for the movie. The movie will be out on theaters today in one year.
Source: motorauthority.com
Source: motorauthority.com
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yeah just heard it , i feel like they are doing the best decision there.
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