Originally posted by K_Speed
And no, they never all hated you/us, now it really broke out. I know that, my father is persian.
I'll take your word for it that your father doesn't hate the US. Here in America I work with many Middle Easterners from many countries, none of whom appear to hate the US and most of whom were outraged by the 9/11 attacks. However, given the long history of Muslim extremist attacks and rhetoric against the US, there is no possible sane way you can deny a long standing hatred against America.
I mean, what, Osama was just
bored so he decided to knock down the WTC? Anybody remember the 1992 truck bombings that failed to accomplish that?
So don't give us any crap about how we were not hated until we invaded Iraq. That's a flat out lie.
I mean what do you say about the terrorist attacks happening more often? Nothing, the only thing you say is. "They pull of like little girls", yes man, that is 8th grade.
If I hear people saying stuff like that, its like, is this a football game or a war against terrorism?
So, the Muslim extremists kill innocent people, and we're supposed to
let that go? Let's let them kill any innocent Westerners they want, until we're all gone, just to avoid the possibility that we might accidently kill some innocent Iraqis. That's
got to be more moral than anything else we could do, right?
You are the one who seems to be treating it like a football game - it should be over in a few hours, and it doesn't
really matter if we win or lose, right?
WRONG. Dead wrong.
I mean look what the war has done to us....
economy gone down
mid american citizens lost most of their savings
depth
deaths and lots of them
terrorist attacks
etc
This is so naive and unconnected to reality as to be idiotic.
1) The US economy was in recession well before 9/11, which only made it worse. In fact, the US economy is currently in better shape than it has been
since 9/11.
2) The vast majority of middle American citizens have NOT lost most of their savings. I should know - I am one. The market being down has cost me some money on paper. Unless I am stupid and chicken out, I'll weather the recession and come out ahead of where I was in 1990 as soon as the market recovers-
which it will. I'd like you to cite even the SMALLEST shred of evidence to back up your claim that "mid american citizens lost most of their savings".
3) depth
4) Yes, there are deaths. That happens in a war. Did you know that fewer people - only about 25% of the number - have died in Iraq
in the last year than died in the 9/11 attacks
on ONE MORNING?! Your lack of perspective is incredible.
What, do you think that terrorist bombs are magic and don't kill anybody? Here's a little tidbit for you from today's news wire:
BASRA, Iraq (AP) - Five suicide attackers detonated car bombs against police buildings during rush hour Wednesday in this British -controlled southern Iraqi city, killing 68 people, including 16 children burned to death in their passing school buses.
Iraqi officials blamed al-Qaida for the bloodiest attack in Basra, a mainly Shiite city, since the U.S.-led occupation began a year ago.
The attacks wounded about 200 people and marked a revival of the terror threat as U.S. forces battled guerrillas across the country since the beginning of the month.
Bombers simultaneously detonated four cars packed with missiles and TNT just after 7 a.m. in front of three police stations - one of them next to Basra's main street market - and a police academy. An hour later another car bomb went off outside the police academy, located in Zubair, a suburb of mainly Shiite Basra.
Two bombers were captured before they could attack, Basra Gov. Wael Abdul-Latif said, adding that he believed al-Qaida was behind the bombings. He said 16 children and nine policemen were among the dead.
Iraqis pulled charred and torn bodies from mangled vehicles in front of the Saudia police station, located by Basra's crowded main street market - one of three stations and a police academy hit by a total of five car bombs, according to Basra's governor.
Two vans passing the Saudia station were destroyed - one carrying kindergartners, the other taking girls to middle school. Dead children, burned beyond recognition, were taken to hospital morgues.
Got any reply to that? If you don't, you can lose your attitude
right NOW.
and where did we get now? nowhere, nothing has changed. There is more deaths and hatred on earth now.
So you're still claiming that terrorists don't actually hate or kill people. Then what are all the fundamentalist shouting and suicide bombings about?
The first time I heard Bush talking about the war (at the beginning), he said the war would be over quickly, well look how its taking. He should have said Were going in the war, and it wont be easy for any of us. And that is the truth.
Bush has
never claimed the war would be over quickly and easily. He's
always said it will be a big committment of time, money, and lives. He's never claimed anything
but that, which is why he's been trying so hard to get everyone to stay the course.
It's simply
amazing how much untruth and illogical emotion people will believe when it comes to bashing America.
