pictures of my Integra Type R...(hit a speedbump in my progress!)

[YSSMAN]

You do realize that other than the wheels, the exterior is a stock Honda Integra Type R?

How can you not really like car "like these" yet like this one? (which is stock on the outside) Doesn't it look like nearly every single other one you've seen?

You know I'm not the biggest fan of Hondas (Toyotas, etc) in general, but I like this one very much. Thats what I meant by it... But a clean, well-done car is always awesome, and I think this one is an excellent example of how to do it right!

 

[Diablomonkey]

On the Rota subject....

 

[Keef]

That one probably went over a curb at speed, or dipped into a massive pothole. And stock steelie would bend and any stock alloy wouldn't get away without damage. Cast aluminum breaks, it doesn't just bend. The only way to make a wheel lighter is to use less material, and the less material it has the weaker it is. The Enkei RPF1s I'm going to order are no where hear as strong as the stock wheels, because they weigh about 6 pounds less.

 

[Duke]

On the Rota subject....

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The main story that was circulating around all the import boards a year ago ended up not being the wheels' fault, no matter how much the owner wept and gnashed his teeth over it. They did not fail because Rotas suck.

What happened is that he had them powdercoated, which involved baking them at a high enough temperature for long enough that the aluminum alloy was weakened. It was traced back to his actions, not the quality of manufacturing.

 

[Perfect Balance]

That one probably went over a curb at speed, or dipped into a massive pothole. And stock steelie would bend and any stock alloy wouldn't get away without damage. Cast aluminum breaks, it doesn't just bend. The only way to make a wheel lighter is to use less material, and the less material it has the weaker it is. The Enkei RPF1s I'm going to order are no where hear as strong as the stock wheels, because they weigh about 6 pounds less.

They use a different method for making the wheels which makes the particles line up better (or something) letting them make an equally stong wheel with a lot less material. Therefore, lighter.

The enkei's are pretty strong.

EDIT: And I ripped a nice chunk out of my stock wheels putting the tires on, the tire machine did something weird and messed it up. I can say for sure the Enkeis are stronger.

 

[Jim Prower]

They use a different method for making the wheels which makes the particles line up better (or something) letting them make an equally stong wheel with a lot less material. Therefore, lighter.

That's done through the forging process. They're basically hammered in such a way that the metal flows, creating internal stresses and making the wheel stronger. (These stresses do not hurt the wheel, but help it.)

It's more expensive because of the tooling and work involved; casting molds are less expensive than forging equipment. Thus, forged wheels are more expensive, but they're stronger, meaning they can be designed to be lighter. It sounds as if Rotas may be either cast versions of Forged designs, or worked from poorer grade of metal, thus annealing them at relatively low tenperatures.

[WIKIPEDIA]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forging[/WIKIPEDIA]

 

[Perfect Balance]

-snip-

The Enkei's we're talking about aren't forged.

 

[Omnis]

Are they at least high-pressure cast?

 

[Jim Prower]

That's probably it, or heat-treated in some way.

 

[Megasoft Office]

Your Integra is very clean. Low mileage or well-kept?

 

[Keef]

They use a different method for making the wheels which makes the particles line up better (or something) letting them make an equally stong wheel with a lot less material. Therefore, lighter.

The enkei's are pretty strong.

EDIT: And I ripped a nice chunk out of my stock wheels putting the tires on, the tire machine did something weird and messed it up. I can say for sure the Enkeis are stronger.

You do realize this 1018 "aerospace grade" aluminum is soft as butter, right? That's the stuff that all those pretty short throw shifters and pedals and stock wheels are made of. When you heat treat metals (whether it be powdercoating or a torch) the molecules get rearranged in a more uniform shape, making the wheel harder, but more brittle. They'll hold their shape better and you'll be able to use less material to support the same weight, but their resistance to shock is greatly reduced. That's why a typical pothole will make them break like glass.

It sounds as if Rotas may be either cast versions of Forged designs, or worked from poorer grade of metal, thus annealing them at relatively low tenperatures.

That's plausible. I've seen many mishaps because of inferior metal quality in my short time at the shop. All aluminums aren't made the same, even if they're the same grade or alloy. We've had to experiment when buying to tools for our mills because cheaper tools really do tend to be cheaper.

 

[Perfect Balance]

Are they at least high-pressure cast?

That's probably it, or heat-treated in some way.

-snip-

Here is what I'm talking about. Mainly the M.A.T. process.

http://www.enkei.com/technology.html

Man we've gone a good bit off topic here.

 

[Jim Prower]

Yeah...Sorry about your Integra. We got off on this tangent...

 

[Skygrasper550]

i can't see the turbo in the engine.., where is it??

BTW nice DC2 and AP1.., i myself am a fan of Honda's too.., 👍

the ITR would look more like an ITR if you would replace the rims.., those Rota wheels are only good for "pimping", if you know what i mean..,

 

[Perfect Balance]

i can't see the turbo in the engine.., where is it??

BTW nice DC2 and AP1.., i myself am a fan of Honda's too.., 👍

the ITR would look more like an ITR if you would replace the rims.., those Rota wheels are only good for "pimping", if you know what i mean..,

I can see the turbo, it's not hiding anywhere.

And rotas are the worst wheels for "pimping"


"Pimping" with rotas is like wearing fake gold watches.

 

[Skygrasper550]

I can see the turbo, it's not hiding anywhere.

And rotas are the worst wheels for "pimping"


"Pimping" with rotas is like wearing fake gold watches.

i'll be frank, i've never seen a REAL turbine before.., now could someone please point it out for me?? thanks a lot..,

 

[jesterguy]

thanks for the comments, everyone! Very minor progress on the car as work is running my life lately, I've got a nice vacation coming up so I should get a lot done. I've already talked to a painter and a tuner and picked up a couple of little things I need to get it done. I'm ordering an AEM wideband this week and set of lug nuts also.

If it makes everyone feel better I have a set of gunmetal ITR wheels on the car now instead of the rotas. These will be on there until I get the car and JDM ITR's sprayed and tires mounted.

Your Integra is very clean. Low mileage or well-kept?

Yep, I posted a picture of the cluster on the previous page. I'm a bit over 35k miles on it right now. It's pretty much been a garage queen for the past 5 years or so, probably not going to change in the next few years even after the car is completed. I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing!

i can't see the turbo in the engine.., where is it??

BTW nice DC2 and AP1.., i myself am a fan of Honda's too.., 👍

the ITR would look more like an ITR if you would replace the rims.., those Rota wheels are only good for "pimping", if you know what i mean..,

This is about the best I can get, it's not mounted in an area that is great for taking pictures of it.

 

[ferrari_chris]

To clarify:

 

[Skygrasper550]

thanks for the pics, sorry if i had you guys go to the trouble of getting them..,

that's a turbo?? it's small.., but a small turbine IS good for touge races.., low power, but low lag.., :tup:

i think the gunmetal rims look good already, IF paired with a carbon fibre bonnet.., but, putting on those JDM rims will make the ITR look more like an ITR..,

 

[Perfect Balance]

that's a turbo?? it's small.., but a small turbine IS good for touge races.., low power, but low lag.., :tup:

It's not small, that's only half of the entire unit. You can't see the rest.

It's a 1.8 liter engine, what kind of turbo do you expect?

 

[Beerz]

Something like this...

 

[Jim Prower]

Something like this...

I think they stole that one off a C-175 ACERT.

Naw, his turbo's fine. perfect to maintain everyday driveability...and surprise some people.

 

[Skygrasper550]

It's not small, that's only half of the entire unit. You can't see the rest.

It's a 1.8 liter engine, what kind of turbo do you expect?

well i'm very sorry.., i'm not Mr. know-it-all, am i??

Something like this...

Whoa!! that is one big-a:censored: turbine it scared the pants out of me.., i wasn't expecting THAT size.., big turbines aren't my thing, i was just surprised by this one..,

 

[Omnis]

that's a turbo?? it's small.., but a small turbine IS good for touge races..,

Oh man! Always gotta be ready for those touge races!

 

[Perfect Balance]

Oh man! Always gotta be ready for those touge races!

Yep, they pop out at you from nowhere sometimes.

 

[jesterguy]

yikes, been a while since I've updated this, eh? Just one quick picture, I'll post a bigger update tomorrow when I get a chance. Got 2 of my 3 gauges in today. I'm excited!

STACK
STACK
STACK

Oil Pressure should be in tomorrow, these will be replacing the old autometers I had in there. Going from autometer boost, EGT and narrowband to STACK boost, oil pressure and wideband. Much needed improvement.

stay tuned for more!

 

[Beerz]

Ah, they finally arrived. 👍

Can't wait to see how they look on your car.

 

[Perfect Balance]

Stack is unexplainably (is that even a word?) awesome.

 

[Tornado]

unexplainably (is that even a word?)

Close enough.


What is the second gauge?

 

[jesterguy]

Ah, they finally arrived. 👍

Can't wait to see how they look on your car.

they should be in within the next couple days, I'm definitely looking forward to seeing them in and lit up! I'll take a picture at night or in the garage when they can be seen better.

Close enough.


What is the second gauge?

wideband air-fuel gauge.