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- KR_Viper
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Pit as a minigame?
- Thread starter Peter
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- Exorcet
- OE Exorcet
And none of that justifies adding unrealistic things at all. Being a game makes GT5 no less of a simulator.
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- GTP_juniordee3
- Oddbug
With your logic, it's OK to have to have unrealistic physics, or car specs in GT, because it's just a game. It's OK that you can bounce off the walls in a city course and still win, because it's a game. The whole point of a game is to play the way you like and have fun right?
I do see your point. GT is a game. But the reason most people like GT is to get away of all the typical 'games' like Burnout, Need for Speed, and others. We like to ''think'' we're not playing a game. To be honest going into the pit after doing 20 laps in an intense race and seeing a ''mini game'' pop up in front of your face would be a very...stupid reminder that your playing just a ''game'''.
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- hachidestroyer
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- RF_Stonemonkey
Ah, now the wheelmen could each use a motion controller for the guns but I'm a bit stuck on how to do the jackmen.
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- Exorcet
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I missed this post before.
Overshooting the box is fine, but getting a quicker stop by being as close to 50 mph, or whatever, as you can be doesn't make sense, unless you just mean you'll get out of pit lane faster and not get a penalty. From your post, it seemed that you wanted your pit crew to suddenly work faster if you drove down pitlane at 49.9 mph as opposed to 47.2.
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- Hammerhead Garage
I don't think people want their ultimate success or failure to depend upon how quickly tey can press a series of buttons.
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- cooldawn | GTP_Vincent_Vice
- cooldawn
Sorry but no...not in GT5.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC5pkaFrVRA&feature=related
1:30 in.
I don't think i'd want a "reflex/mini-game" to speed up pit response. However, i'd like to manage my pitcrew as part of a racing team management gameplay (which does not exist in the GT series)
1:30 in.
I don't think i'd want a "reflex/mini-game" to speed up pit response. However, i'd like to manage my pitcrew as part of a racing team management gameplay (which does not exist in the GT series)
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I think pit-stops should be more realistic, but I don't think making a test out of it is the way to go.
Pitlane speed limit should not be automatic, you should have to slow-down and engage it manually, but it wouldn't be fair on DS3 controller users to make you have to control your speed yourself --- maybe in the pits the handbrake button works as speed limiter... so you have to drag your speed down before the line, then hit O to maintain it.
I think it would also be fair to have to make it into your own pit box and stop in the right place... although maybe there should be an option to have all of this done automatically for ease though.
Also, adjustments to track bar, wedge and pressures are a must for NASCAR.. wing adjustments for F1 too.
Pitlane speed limit should not be automatic, you should have to slow-down and engage it manually, but it wouldn't be fair on DS3 controller users to make you have to control your speed yourself --- maybe in the pits the handbrake button works as speed limiter... so you have to drag your speed down before the line, then hit O to maintain it.
I think it would also be fair to have to make it into your own pit box and stop in the right place... although maybe there should be an option to have all of this done automatically for ease though.
Also, adjustments to track bar, wedge and pressures are a must for NASCAR.. wing adjustments for F1 too.
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- ANFD
Replicating pitstops can be an element of immersion certainly. I know that one of my favorite things about GTR & GTR2 was that you had (by selecting the Option) to signal your pit before entering, you had to hit your "speed limiter" switch and be at or below the speed limit before you crosssed the pit entry line, and you could drive to your pit. Then you had the option of taking on a variety of fuel loads and choosing tire types (Dry, Inters, and Wets). You had to shut off ignition before refuleing as per the FIA rules and then refire the engine when refueling was finished. Sometimes the engine did not fire off immediately or the engine would stall. In any case, you could make up time in the pits by not refueling and not having to stop and start the engine. When you win a 2 hour race by seconds and you know you won it through pit strategy, it gives you a whole new sense of satisfaction
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- Lomma
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+1 same thing here.
hampus_dh
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People complain about the damage model not being very realistic,
People complain about why PD wont give us dynamic weather or day/night races,
All in the name of realism, and i understand that.
But now people just want to push a number of buttons for their pit stop?
Realistic? No.
This is what i want:
Before race: Choose how many pitstops i´m gonna, how much fuel i want on my pitstops and what tyres to put on the car.
During race: Choose tyres, if i want to fix the damage, and fuel (incase something happens and i need a lighter car or heavier car for a longer stint.)
Now obviously this is only for racecars.
btw, i know the damage model will be realistic and that day/night weather is confirmed. Was just making a point.
People complain about why PD wont give us dynamic weather or day/night races,
All in the name of realism, and i understand that.
But now people just want to push a number of buttons for their pit stop?
Realistic? No.
This is what i want:
Before race: Choose how many pitstops i´m gonna, how much fuel i want on my pitstops and what tyres to put on the car.
During race: Choose tyres, if i want to fix the damage, and fuel (incase something happens and i need a lighter car or heavier car for a longer stint.)
Now obviously this is only for racecars.
btw, i know the damage model will be realistic and that day/night weather is confirmed. Was just making a point.
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- Shin_Roh
Mini-game isn't the way i'd put it, although some interactivity in the pits would be good.
As I see it we should have to drive the car into our box manually, hold brake, select neutral, then maybe have tire/fuel options as crew come out of garage, keep eyes on mirrors for change completion, check for traffic then safely navigate back onto track.
If a mini-game isnt realistic, neither is having the computer do it all.
As I see it we should have to drive the car into our box manually, hold brake, select neutral, then maybe have tire/fuel options as crew come out of garage, keep eyes on mirrors for change completion, check for traffic then safely navigate back onto track.
If a mini-game isnt realistic, neither is having the computer do it all.
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- F1fan1
I voted "Hell no". I have F1 CE. It said interactive pitstops on the case... I bought it thinking that I'd get to do the driving in the pits. It also said safety cars on the case. Was very disappointed when I found out that there were no safety cars in the game. And the parade laps suck as you have very little control. Like the game though.
Here's an idea. The option to have control of the car in the pits. They could fine tune it so there's the potential to complete the stop and get through the pitlane approx 1 second faster than the auto pit, but there is the potential to lose a lot of time.
I would love this to be incorporated, but I know it won't.
Well I'd like an interactive pit crew with the "lollipop man" signalling us to leave the box, but what you said is pretty spot on. The pit stop options could default. I.E same tyres as current, take on fuel etc. Maybe we could change this in the real time adjustments menu, so for example, there's one lap to your stop, and you're driving down the straight, but want a different compound of tyre. Make the adjustments in the menu and your crew will get ready for you. If you want the default pit, then just come in.
It's probably the best we can do without a team radio.
Here's an idea. The option to have control of the car in the pits. They could fine tune it so there's the potential to complete the stop and get through the pitlane approx 1 second faster than the auto pit, but there is the potential to lose a lot of time.
I would love this to be incorporated, but I know it won't.
Well I'd like an interactive pit crew with the "lollipop man" signalling us to leave the box, but what you said is pretty spot on. The pit stop options could default. I.E same tyres as current, take on fuel etc. Maybe we could change this in the real time adjustments menu, so for example, there's one lap to your stop, and you're driving down the straight, but want a different compound of tyre. Make the adjustments in the menu and your crew will get ready for you. If you want the default pit, then just come in.
It's probably the best we can do without a team radio.
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Because you were poor at it? It adds a hell of a lot to the game. Make a good stop and you gain a second or so on the computer, make a bad stop and you can lose time and or track position.
I'm all for it. Adds another dimension to the game. Those complaining about being the King of Suzuka but coming second because of dodgy pit strategies should watch real racing a hell of a lot more then they do. It's part and parcel with reality and as the "real" driving simulator, it should be incorporated in to the game itself.
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- F1fan1
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Nice assumption you got yourself there. I actually totally pwned at it. Pressing buttons as they pop up on screen is easy. Used to play BopIt as a kid. Grew out of it shortly after. Put it this way - if I want a game of guitar hero using a G25 as the controller I don't need GT5 to do so.
TokyoDrift
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Anything that takes away from being behind the wheel and driving is a bit of a waste of time to be honest. If I must be forced to pit, I want it to limit my speed automatically, pull in automatically, and do whatever needs doing, automatically. Now, if it were optional that you could manually intervene, that's fine.
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- Shin_Roh
BUMP!!! check this vid out, brought to our attention by wajdi1977 in the latest discussion thread. Food for thought at 2:00. Mmmmm brain food 
source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWCbbWRaEJw
source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWCbbWRaEJw
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So car tuning is a big no no for you then?
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- GTP_LSX
I agree, getting down to pit road speed would be a cool challenge. Like a Nascar race at Daytona, you have to drop speed from 195M/H down to 55M/H by the yellow commitment line/cone at the end of pit road. Sounds easy, but you don't want to slow too soon, or too late to maximize your speed running up to and then make the best of the speed you have while on pit road.
Also, if we get a mile and a half track for Nascar, like Atlanta or Lowe's, you will be dropping off the banking of turn four, and slowing from 175-180M/H down to again 55, but the car will get loose while doing that if your braking too hard, it's just challenging. Cool though none the less.
Not to mention the pit exit at Daytona is down right scary on the road course, not much room for error. Just as bad on many tracks for F1 on pit entry, though they can use a limiter on pit road, getting down the twisty pit entrance without it, while going fast as possible will be tricky to say the least.
As for button mashing, I'm not sure, I'd like to hurry them up if I could, so it may be nice. I do hope we can do things like change our wing angle for cars that have them, adjust wedge or tire pressures for Nascar, or spring rubbers if PD is that gracious with the detail in Nascar. Pressing a sequence to spin the wedge wrench in the back window of the Nascar's would be cool, or move the analoge stick back and forth to press down some grille tape on the front of the car, or even a windsheild tear off for any car. Or if you don't do it right, the tape can fly off, or the tear off wont come off all the way and flap all over the windsheild until it rips off. There is lot's of stuff that it could be used for to make it pretty cool, I guess I'm undecided until I try a racing game with it. But I did like the adjustment setup for Nascar 2003 season
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