Plane Crashes Into Building (houses the IRS) In Austin Tx

[NocturnalPS]

This guy was clearly pissed off but still my opinion no excuse for what he did. Initial reports are that nobody was killed in the incident other then the pilot. He had left an angry anti-IRS Web page. http://embeddedart.com/

More news at:
http://www.foxnews.com/

 

[Joey D]

Some people will take anything way too far.

 

[Coxis]

I just saw this on TV. Well... He took the ultimate revenge. To crash a plane on a building which will do nothing to an organizaton as big as the IRS.

EDIT: I just finished reading his text. Wow was this a frustrated fellow!

 

[Eric.]

That was actually a pretty good read.

 

[Duke]

So, while I agree with some of what he says, I have to admit, the entire subtext is that he A) tried to stretch the rules, and B) screwed up, both on several occasions, then had a tantrum when he got caught out.

 

[Omnis]

Man, I admire this guy's spirit. Too bad he didn't harness and use it for something better. The hell with the IRS.

 

[Joey D]

You admire a guy's spirit who attempted to kill innocent people? Do you admire the hijacker's on Sept 11th spirit too?

 

[DK]

Agreed. This guy took one too many pills, if you ask me. I would never try and fly a plane into the HQ of the Irish Revenue Commission, mainly because I have a fear of death.

 

[lpb-nissan-gt-r]

Im sorry but without trying to make fun of such a dangerous event, what drift king said was hilarious.

 

[niky]

You admire a guy's spirit who attempted to kill innocent people? Do you admire the hijacker's on Sept 11th spirit too?

Hey, they were both trying to stick it to the Man. [/sarcasm]

On a serious note, sadly, there are people who do see the 9-11 hijackers in the same light.

 

[Joey D]

I didn't mean to have my comment sound bad and maybe I'm reading more into it. But really the guy committed a terrorist act to bring light to a message, the 9/11 hijackers did a similar thing just on a bigger level. Hate the government all you want, rally for change all you want, but committing terrorist acts isn't going to get your message across in a positive light.

 

[Dotini]

committing terrorist acts isn't going to get your message across in a positive light.

This is a great truth.

Gandhi and Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr were able to change the world for the better by bringing justice and freedom for millions. They did it non-violently.

 

[Public'sTwin]

You admire a guy's spirit who attempted to kill innocent people? Do you admire the hijacker's on Sept 11th spirit too?

He admired his spirit, not his intentions, nor his methods of accomplishing them.

If we all had this spirit, things - on the whole - would in all likelyhood be different for the better.

 

[NocturnalPS]

The crazy man burned down his own house with his family in it.. They got out safe. Some people really needs to take their meds.

 

[mafia_boy]

Apparantly, the psycho pilot has taken someone with him....a second body has been found inside the IRS building.

Source!

 

[Omnis]

He admired his spirit, not his intentions, nor his methods of accomplishing them.

If we all had this spirit, things - on the whole - would in all likelyhood be different for the better.

Thank you. I think it's amazing how a person can get so motivated to do some things. As I said, however, it's just tragic when that determination gets channeled into acts of violence.

Anyway, yes, I admire the man's spirit of taking on the IRS. But his course of action is obviously reprehensible.

 

[niky]

It's in the same spirit that people who've been disenfranchised by Western adventurism in the Middle East, exploited by the rich sheiks who hoard all the oil money, and who are fighting back in the "only way they know how".

Yeah... fight back at an unfair system by targetting innocent civilians and government workers. That works.

Yes, the system is unfair... but you don't blame the IRS for that. Blame the corrupt in Congress. Blame the bank CEOs.... don't blame the guys who are just doing their job.

 

[Joey D]

I still don't understand admiring anything about this man, he was a terrorist. I don't see how anything can be that bad which required someone to attempt to kill innocent people. If that's the sort of spirit we need to get things done in this country, I think I want to pass on being part of it.

 

[Dotini]

It's in the same spirit that people who've been disenfranchised by Western adventurism in the Middle East, exploited by the rich sheiks who hoard all the oil money, and who are fighting back in the "only way they know how".

Yeah... fight back at an unfair system by targetting innocent civilians and government workers. That works.

Yes, the system is unfair... but you don't blame the IRS for that. Blame the corrupt in Congress. Blame the bank CEOs.... don't blame the guys who are just doing their job.

Thank you. I think it's amazing how a person can get so motivated to do some things. As I said, however, it's just tragic when that determination gets channeled into acts of violence.

Anyway, yes, I admire the man's spirit of taking on the IRS. But his course of action is obviously reprehensible.

I still don't understand admiring anything about this man, he was a terrorist. I don't see how anything can be that bad which required someone to attempt to kill innocent people. If that's the sort of spirit we need to get things done in this country, I think I want to pass on being part of it.

There is truth in all of these comments. What we are confronted with is a rotting core of contradictions at the center of our civilization and its discontents. Even our founders pondered a fearful choice when deciding to rebel and make war against crown and king, and the Civil War was no laughing matter. The bottom line is that when men are subject to ill fortune, injustice or tyranny, those with gumption will do something about it, and the results may or may not be for the better. The protagonist in our current story was no Washington, Lincoln, or Gandhi. He was a small-time loser in a permissive, decadent and failing culture, and selfishly and gratuitously acted out in a fashion which is becoming all too common.

 

[Omnis]

I still don't understand admiring anything about this man, he was a terrorist. I don't see how anything can be that bad which required someone to attempt to kill innocent people. If that's the sort of spirit we need to get things done in this country, I think I want to pass on being part of it.

That's not what I'm talking about. You're getting it twisted. I'm talking about the motivation to do something radical and extraordinary. It's just too bad he chose to make that something violent and destructive instead of something positive like MLK and Gandhi did, as already mentioned in this thread.

 

[Biggles]

to do something radical and extraordinary.

You mean like Adolf Hitler, Charles Manson, or Jim Jones?

Human history is full of psychotic individuals carrying out "radical and extraordinary" acts of murder. Just because the trigger in this case was the IRS you find the "motivation" admirable?

 

[Famine]

...

I honestly can't even read a word you say, with that username in this thread. I saw the "latest post" notification and just creased.

 

[Danoff]

He targeted an institution responsible for carrying out human rights violations under the banner of such violations.

I don't approve of his methods, but I share the sentiment - that the instructions given to the IRS and the enforcement of those instructions is/are atrocious.

I'd prefer that he use his energy to challenge the legality of the tax code rather than resort to violence.

 

[Public'sTwin]

You mean like Adolf Hitler, Charles Manson, or Jim Jones?

Adolf Hitler was undeniably extraordinary, and for a short time, a hero to some.

It's pretty much bad guys who have the same resolve as Batman in the real world. (And lord know America could use some Harvey Dents.)

Oh wait, Mother Theresa.

 

[Omnis]

You mean like Adolf Hitler, Charles Manson, or Jim Jones?

Human history is full of psychotic individuals carrying out "radical and extraordinary" acts of murder. Just because the trigger in this case was the IRS you find the "motivation" admirable?

Yes, I do mean like them. Can you imagine what the world would be like if there were as many people that would do good that had the same determination as those that do evil?

 

[Biggles]

i honestly can't even read a word you say, with that username in this thread. I saw the "latest post" notification and just creased.

King, Country & Empire.

 

[Touring Mars]

That's not what I'm talking about. You're getting it twisted. I'm talking about the motivation to do something radical and extraordinary. It's just too bad he chose to make that something violent and destructive instead of something positive like MLK and Gandhi did, as already mentioned in this thread.

"It's just too bad" that he chose to carry out a suicide attack on innocent people? This is the same kind of logic that some people use to justify murdering doctors who work in abortion clinics, and I don't find it admirable at all. Whether he has a legitimate grievance or not (and he clearly did) does not justify his actions in any way. The ability to motivate oneself to carry out a suicide attack demonstrates a lack of restraint and respect for the rights and lives of others that is quite frankly appalling.

 

[Omnis]

Why are you thinking that I'm against that? Things can be profound in good and bad ways. I am not denying that this is an example of one bad.

 

[Touring Mars]

I accept that you do not condone his behaviour, but I don't agree with your assessment that his ability to motivate himself is deserving of any respect or recognition. I'm sure the family of the person he murdered would also find such an assessment somewhat distasteful.

 

[Omnis]

Well then perhaps my choice of words was not ideal. I'm just taken aback by something so extreme, and would have loved it if that energy were channeled into something constructive. Next time I won't leave an open comment that others can easily spin.