Political Correctness

[TRGTspecialist]

Look at what I quoted, for example.

Ok:

all BLM supporters hates white people.

What's your evidence that a large majority of BLM supporters hate white people?

 

[GranTurismo guy]

What's your evidence that a large majority of BLM supporters hate white people?

YouTube, twitter etc. Don't have to look far to see.

 

[FoRiZon]

YouTube, twitter etc. Don't have to look far to see.

Social medias tend to amplify ludicrous things.

 

[GranTurismo guy]

Social medias tend to amplify ludicrous things.

That is true. And to be honest, I'd like to think that the thoughts of most people are not what these platforms seem to suggest.

 

[FoRiZon]

That is true. And to be honest, I'd like to think that the thoughts of most people are not what these platforms seem to suggest.

Also negative traits of people tend to be much enjoyable and stick than positive ones. Thats the truth.

 

[Scaff]

That is true. And to be honest, I'd like to think that the thoughts of most people are not what these platforms seem to suggest.

However that's the exact opposite of what you are doing?

What are these comments/videos/tweets that you cite as evidence? Are they from the people you claim are 'mostly like this or from people who say they are 'mostly' like this? How do you know they are accurate? How do you know that they represent the beliefs and thoughts of the majority?

The single answer is that you don't (and nor do any of us), which is why basing such a sweeping statement on evidence of such a low standard is both inaccurate and very often what he users of 'click-bait' fodder want you to do.

 

[Dotini]

That is true. And to be honest, I'd like to think that the thoughts of most people are not what these platforms seem to suggest.

Do most people have thoughts at all? Aren't they mostly feelings?

 

[TRGTspecialist]

YouTube, twitter etc. Don't have to look far to see.

If the evidence is so easy to find then you'll have no problem linking to it yourself.

And to be clear, what I'm interested in is evidence for your claim that a large majority of BLM supporters hate white people - not evidence that shows some people on Youtube/Twitter hate white people.

 

[GranTurismo guy]

However that's the exact opposite of what you are doing?

No, I'm going off directly what I hear people say. What I hope to see and what I actually do see are not the same.

 

[Scaff]

No, I'm going off directly what I hear people say. What I hope to see and what I actually do see are not the same.

And you know that represents the majority how?

 

[GranTurismo guy]

And you know that represents the majority how?

Where is everyone else saying otherwise? It's far easier to find a comment unfairly biased against men, in the case of feminism, than one that is not. Same story for BLM and white people.

Maybe it's not the majority of the actual group count. But it seems not so likely. Why aren't these people speaking up?

 

[Dotini]

Perhaps we need a poll to determine what BLM actually is?

"Four years after its founding, BLM is still a movement without a clear meaning for many Americans. Some see it has a hate group; others as cutting-edge activism and yet others as just a step above a mob."
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/29/us/black-lives-matter-blowing-it/

 

[GranTurismo guy]

Perhaps we need a poll to determine what BLM actually is?

"Four years after its founding, BLM is still a movement without a clear meaning for many Americans. Some see it has a hate group; others as cutting-edge activism and yet others as just a step above a mob."
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/29/us/black-lives-matter-blowing-it/

It's unfortunate that the group is pulled down by a lot of people within it that commit acts of bullying and terrorism. But that's what dominates the group currently.

 

[Dotini]

It's unfortunate that the group is pulled down by a lot of people within it that commit acts of bullying and terrorism. But that's what dominates the group currently.

What about this skyrocketing of police assassinations? Aren't the black men who are doing that blowing hard about BLM and using that "movement" as an excuse or cover?

 

[GranTurismo guy]

What about this skyrocketing of police assassinations? Aren't the black men who are doing that blowing hard about BLM and using that "movement" as an excuse or cover?

If it is an excuse what would be their true motive?

 

[Scaff]

Where is everyone else saying otherwise? It's far easier to find a comment unfairly biased against men, in the case of feminism, than one that is not. Same story for BLM and white people.

Maybe it's not the majority of the actual group count. But it seems not so likely. Why aren't these people speaking up?

So unless a larger number publicly decry it in a manner that you will see then it's a majority that's doing it?

That's appallingly weak logic.

You are making massive leaps based on no evidence at all that this really is a majority.

It's unfortunate that the group is pulled down by a lot of people within it that commit acts of bullying and terrorism. But that's what dominates the group currently.

Once again how do you know it's what dominates the group currently?

 

[Dotini]

If it is an excuse what would be their true motive?

At the basic level, humans are nothing more than brains piloting a meat skeleton around who have an instinct for survival. Perhaps that instinct is being exploited by memetic means? Black males who aren't in prison are dying in disproportionate, wholesale numbers in a series of US inner cities.

 

[GranTurismo guy]

So unless a larger number publicly decry it in a manner that you will see then it's a majority that's doing it?

That's appallingly weak logic.

You are making massive leaps based on no evidence at all that this really is a majority.


Once again how do you know it's what dominates the group currently?

Is there any specific reason why all of those that thought otherwise wouldn't voice their opinion in the same place? I get what you're saying, but why is there an abundance in one type of comment and almost a complete lack in another?

How do you not know it dominates BLM currently? Look at their achievements. Amongst all the negatives surrounding the movement, what has actually been done that's positive?

 

[Dotini]

Look at their achievements. Amongst all the negatives surrounding the movement, what has actually been done that's positive?

Great point. Without positive achievements, only negative, the movement will wither and die. So nothing much to worry over.

 

[Scaff]

Is there any specific reason why all of those that thought otherwise wouldn't voice their opinion in the same place? I get what you're saying, but why is there an abundance in one type of comment and almost a complete lack in another?

Because people operate in echo chambers, and have the ability to delete and remove opposing views

I take it your not a white supremacist? Do you go on The Daily Stormer and post opposing comments? If not can I assume now that the majority of white people support them? Because that's exactly the leap you are making.

How do you not know it dominates BLM currently? Look at their achievements. Amongst all the negatives surrounding the movement, what has actually been done that's positive?

Now first off I haven't said they don't, the difference is that I'm not going to make a general statemnet with no evidence, you are.


As far as positive stories go, well that's a judgement call, but plenty of people seem to think they have, as a five second google indicates.

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=black lives matter positive stories

 

[Dotini]

If BLM really wants to do something positive, it would get blacks to stop shooting each other in so many inner cities.

 

[Scaff]

If BLM really wants to do something positive, it would get blacks to stop shooting each other in so many inner cities.

Did you even bother checking if that was accurate before you posted it?

I suspect not.

http://blacklivesmatter.com/11-major-misconceptions-about-the-black-lives-matter-movement/

 

[GranTurismo guy]

I take it your not a white supremacist? Do you go on The Daily Stormer and post opposing comments? If not can I assume now that the majority of white people support them? Because that's exactly the leap you are making.

That's fair. But I can only go by what I see.

 

[Scaff]

That's fair. But I can only go by what I see.

You chose what you see, we all do.

Maybe look a bit harder and don't make assumptions based on limited and/or poor evidence, as I'm fairly sure you would not want others doing the same to you (as my example illustrated - now imagine that's done to you constantly).

 

[Northstar]

Did you even bother checking if that was accurate before you posted it?

They say they care, but I can't recall the rallies in Chicago decrying the fact the body count hasn't been this high since the drug wars of the late 90's.

Chicago Murder stats.

 

[GranTurismo guy]

Maybe look a bit harder

Regardless of whether a matter pops up on the news or if I search into it, for me the result is mostly the same - negative BLM/femenism is what dominates.

 

[Carbonox]

Black males who aren't in prison are dying in disproportionate, wholesale numbers in a series of US inner cities.

Most often at the hands of other black males.

 

[Northstar]

Most often at the hands of other black males.

Technically we don't really have enough data to make that call. Of the 717 homicides in Chicago thus far 485 have not resulted in any charges. I don't have time right now to look for data concerning other cities but I'm guessing it's similar.

 

[Dotini]

Ironically, Donal Trump's promises to decentralize education and massively bring back jobs to the inner cities may do more to make black lives matter than any amount of primal screaming and breast beating from feminists and SJWs.

 

[Scaff]

Regardless of whether a matter pops up on the news or if I search into it, for me the result is mostly the same - negative BLM/femenism is what dominates.

And for reasons I have already covered thats a far from objective way of gathering evidence.

Most often at the hands of other black males.

And most white people are killed by white people.