Political Correctness

[TT3AZ]

They bring their weed and sell it to stupid Canadian kids at insane prices.

Yes, of course 100% of all jamaicans sell weed to canadians, and of couse 100% of all candian kids smoke, of course all canadians like justin bieber.

Well, stereotyping?

If im not wrong, as long as its a demand on drugs, people will sell....

And second, Jamaica is very hard country man, not everything is sun and beaches.....

 

[Keef]

That's not what I gather from Red Stripe commercials.

 

[Joel]

Yes, of course 100% of all jamaicans sell weed to canadians, and of couse 100% of all candian kids smoke, of course all canadians like justin bieber.

Well, stereotyping?

If im not wrong, as long as its a demand on drugs, people will sell....

And second, Jamaica is very hard country man, not everything is sun and beaches.....

Not really sure what point you're trying to make here...

 

[Azuremen]

Not really sure what point you're trying to make here...

That he can't get a joke.

 

[terminator363]

Note I live in Canada and I hate how all the kids dress up like hipsters. 40% of them abuse some sort of substance. What is with this whole "hipster" "rapper" Skater" attitude I don't mean to be a ***** but what makes them think they are better than anyone else? My history class was dreadful last semester, it's not the teacher or the things they taught us. It was all the asshats in my class texting and talking on their cell phones while wearing stupid advertised hoodies, hats and ridiculous shoes. By the way, I don't have a cell phone and I want to keep it that way.

 

[Grand Prix]

Note I live in Canada and I hate how all the kids dress up like hipsters. 40% of them abuse some sort of substance. What is with this whole "hipster" "rapper" Skater" attitude I don't mean to be a ***** but what makes them think they are better than anyone else? My history class was dreadful last semester, it's not the teacher or the things they taught us. It was all the asshats in my class texting and talking on their cell phones while wearing stupid advertised hoodies, hats and ridiculous shoes. By the way, I don't have a cell phone and I want to keep it that way.

Popularity trends and fads move in mysterious ways. Fashion and culture are cycles that are constantly ongoing; trends come and go, and can even resurface again decades later.

Some people will do anything to become part of a group. If you make friends you want to keep them, and an adaption in behaviour occurs naturally when this happens. I never really understood this myself in high school, but I've noticed over the years that depending on what kind of group I converse with, I behave differently, even if the personality is more or less the same. However, I have never let any group affect how I dress. (Edit: Actually, thinking about it some more, the way you dress has a lot to do with your cultural experiences, so it's inescapable) I consider the way we dress as another form of expressing identity. Dress like the group, your identity becomes the group's identity.

That is political correctness and stereotyping in a nutshell. Some people don't want to be associated with a group, so get offended for it, because they feel their identity is at stake. The thing is, these people haven't learned that it isn't a big deal, yet.


Hopefully some of that made any sense.

 

[TT3AZ]

Note I live in Canada and I hate how all the kids dress up like hipsters. 40% of them abuse some sort of substance. What is with this whole "hipster" "rapper" Skater" attitude I don't mean to be a ***** but what makes them think they are better than anyone else? My history class was dreadful last semester, it's not the teacher or the things they taught us. It was all the asshats in my class texting and talking on their cell phones while wearing stupid advertised hoodies, hats and ridiculous shoes. By the way, I don't have a cell phone and I want to keep it that way.

Huh, you should see here in sweden, specaly in high school, kids smoke in classroms, and they have nazi symbols on their clothes. But then again, school can do nothing because of the "free speech".

It isnt uncommon that even teachers often try to propagate white supremacy and such things. I had a teacher that once said that he thaught Hitler was a great man, because he gave the people jobs. He also said that he thaught homosexuality was wrong and grose. Then he said that black people should be called the "N-word" because that is what they have been called all the time. The N-word in sweden is similar to the one in english speaking countries, the differance is that here in sweden this word is used commonly by ethnic swedes.

Then people ask me why i use the race card? Well what do you think?

Hope im not violating the rules, but this is a good example of un democratical people we are dealing with (educational purpose only):

On the other hand we have ethnic groups as well, abusing the system, but thats another story

 

[Azuremen]

You sound like one of those that abuses the system.

Hitler did give people jobs and helped the Germany economy develop. If the Allies hadn't screwed Germany so hard after WWI, he would have never had a chance to come to power to begin with. I'm not defending that teacher nor Hitler, I'm just saying there are multiple perspectives to everything.

The N-word is just a word - it only holds meaning because you let it. And the double standard with it is amazing in most places - you can say it if you are black but if you are white, you must be a racist if you say it.

People are ignorant, get over it. Be the better person elevate yourself above them, don't play the race card because you hold grudges over meaningless words and other trite things.

 

[TT3AZ]

You sound like one of those that abuses the system.

Hitler did give people jobs and helped the Germany economy develop. If the Allies hadn't screwed Germany so hard after WWI, he would have never had a chance to come to power to begin with. I'm not defending that teacher nor Hitler, I'm just saying there are multiple perspectives to everything.

The N-word is just a word - it only holds meaning because you let it. And the double standard with it is amazing in most places - you can say it if you are black but if you are white, you must be a racist if you say it.

People are ignorant, get over it. Be the better person elevate yourself above them, don't play the race card because you hold grudges over meaningless words and other trite things.

That is true, but if you have lived in a certain enviorment in your whole life, you get affected. And the N-word and similar, people shouldnt say it according to me, even black people that says that word degrade them selves. Thats why i often say that some black people in the US are still slaves, slaves under their mentality.

 

[freedomweasel]

So you are aware of the problem, you're aware you're arguably part of the cause, and you act out in a manner which arguably makes the problem worse. You then blame your actions on "I grew up this way".

If you're that aware of what is going on, and what you're doing, it sounds like you should try and do something about it, or at the very least not make it worse.

 

[TT3AZ]

So you are aware of the problem, you're aware you're arguably part of the cause, and you act out in a manner which arguably makes the problem worse. You then blame your actions on "I grew up this way".

If you're that aware of what is going on, and what you're doing, it sounds like you should try and do something about it, or at the very least not make it worse.

Im not black, and i only use the race card when i encounter racism. Some times i can do it for fun, but, still.

 

[Joel]

Im not black, and i only use the race card when i encounter racism. Some times i can do it for fun, but, still.

You're a fine, upstanding human being! 👍

 

[Azuremen]

Well, hypocrisy is what all the cool kids do these days. You know, because it is ironic.

 

[Keef]

Well, hypocrisy is what all the cool kids do these days. You know, because it is ironic.

Word.

 

[freedomweasel]

Im not black, and i only use the race card when i encounter racism. Some times i can do it for fun, but, still.

I didn't say anything about being black. You don't have to be black to be insulted for your race, or to take advantage of your race.
I know the opinion of people on the internet doesn't matter as you'll never meet us or anything, but just keep in mind that if we're this annoyed the people you live and work around are likely just as annoyed by your behavior.
I've known people who acted like you seem to and most of my friends and I quickly cut ties with them.

Well, hypocrisy is what all the cool kids do these days. You know, because it is ironic.

Word.

You two have the same avatar so I thought you were talking to yourself.

 

[Villain]

Have you guys seen this? http://www.r-word.org/

Intellectual disabilities. That's what you're supposed to say in lieu of:

• Mental Retardation
• Mental challenges
• Special needs
• etc.

The three terms listed were all introduced as "PC" terms.

 

[Joel]

It's like the whole "lame", "crippled" "handicapped" "handicapable" "differently abled" thing.

I'll give a personal example. I'm fat. I'm not "big boned", I'm not "differently shaped", I'm not "body composition challenged", I'm fat.

 

[Keef]

When anybody I know gets offended by the term "retard", I tell them to look it up in the dictionary and apologize for being stupid.

 

[BobK]

Wouldn't that be ignorant?

 

[Keef]

Wouldn't that be ignorant?

They could be, but I don't give them the benefit of the doubt because they usually don't know the difference between ignorant and stupid anyway.

 

[KSaiyu]

1 headteacher who made an "outstanding" contribution to a school.

1 comment that referred to an autistic child has "having special needs".

6 month investigation.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/janet-felkin-headteacher-cleared-totally-5682973

 

[polysmut]

6 month police probe.

?

Sussex Police said the force spent "a few weeks" on the investigation.

A spokesman added: "The investigation was not into a specific person, but into a report that the term 'special needs' had been used at a governors' meeting.

"It was quickly established that no crime had been committed and the police involvement concluded. This was over a period of a few weeks."

 

[KSaiyu]

My mistake, investigation was 6 months which involved the Council, Police and DoE whilst police intervention only was for weeks. Corrected.

 

[TenEightyOne]

My mistake, investigation was 6 months which involved the Council, Police and DoE whilst police intervention only was for weeks. Corrected.

You bumped for that?

From personal experience I can assure you that the issue of how to refer to young people with special educational needs is a very thorny one indeed. Also, if the police are asked to investigate such a low-level case it shouldn't be a surprise that there may be a number of weeks from the first report to the no-detection declaration.

 

[KSaiyu]

The woman had a six month investigation that involved the police for saying a child with SEN "Special Educational Needs" had "Special Needs".

She was investigated for a "hate crime".

 

[TenEightyOne]

The woman had a six month investigation that involved the police for saying a child with SEN "Special Educational Needs" had "Special Needs".

She was investigated for a "hate crime".

Yes, but that doesn't mean it's the opinion of the police, it means it's the opinion of the person who reported the crime. As you can see it was untrue.

The police's involvement lasted for a few weeks from end to end, it's very likely that for most of that time paperwork sat unattended and unprioritised in in-trays. The LEA will also have had to go through the same mechanics but with even fewer resources and even more checks/balances.

 

[KSaiyu]

Yes, but is it really necessary?

What do you propose we do with my surgical demonstrator (who has been honoured by the Queen) who made this joke to an entire cohort of medics:

"He turned around to the gentleman present, and it was gentleman only in those days - yeah, no bloody women!"

Instead of most of the room (probably 60-40 women to men, modern medical cohort nowadays) bursting out laughing, should they have dialled 999 for a "hate crime"?

 

[TenEightyOne]

Yes, but is it really necessary?

Necessary to report? In my opinion no, but it wasn't my call. Necessary to investigate once reported? Yes, I'd say so.

What do you propose we do with my surgical demonstrator (who has been honoured by the Queen) who made this joke to an entire cohort of medics:

"He turned around to the gentleman present, and it was gentleman only in those days - yeah, no bloody women!"

Instead of most of the room (probably 60-40 women to men, modern medical cohort nowadays) bursting out laughing, should they have dialled 999 for a "hate crime"?

I suggest that people report a crime if they feel one's been committed. If they report it they should expect an appropriate investigation. Again, if you're asking if I would report it? No, I don't think so, in the limited context described it seems acceptable to me.

 

[KSaiyu]

The problem is the fear of being reported would lead to people not saying those things and - hey presto! You lose freedom of speech.

 

[Joel]

@KSaiyu

That seems like a pretty lighthearted joke but it's not always that simple. It's also pretty heavily contextual. I'll assume your surgical demonstrator is a good person and anyone who knows him well would see it was clearly a joke without malice intended. No, I don't think your surgical demonstrator should be investigated for a hate crime. I don't support the existence of hate crimes in the first place. But I don't think it's always as simple as your example.

Are you sure everyone found it funny? Do you think someone in the room would have felt safe to call out a surgical demonstrator who's been honoured by the Queen? Is a 20 something just starting out their career going to feel safe calling out a guy who's been working there for years? I mean, look at the way you're reacting, asking rhetorically if that should be a "hate crime". Someone who found that offensive can either laugh along, or be branded "overly PC" or "too sensitive" if they speak up. How would you have reacted if someone said "that's not funny"?

The problem is the fear of being reported would lead to people not saying those things and - hey presto! You lose freedom of speech.

Just like the fear of being branded "overly PC" and not a team player leads to people keeping silent. No, I do not support laws against speech, but I would support a business owner disciplining someone for that. And yes, I realize that in the health care industry the government is the employer. That's why libertarians are so big on keeping the government out of it in the first place. That's why libertarians are so big on freedom of speech.