Poll: Do you believe GT6 will be a great game?
- Thread starter SuperCobraJet
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- Johnnypenso
The "illegalities" of hybriding were well discussed in another thread, and no, it isn't illegal. Contracts are not laws, they are private agreements. Having said that, of course it's not ideal from PD's standpoint and I get why they fixed it. Along the way though, they didn't need to let the diehards still playing the game, suffer through hybrids wrecking open lobbies for months and months before the big patch came down. They could have implemented the simple change I suggested, which is something that many have asked for long before hybrids came around, and then worked on the big fix in the meantime. Instead, they leave everyone in the dark with no communication at all and people suffered through hybrid trolls for months needlessly.
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- FLX81
No, it wont be great. PD has a history of promising potentially great features and then ruining them while including them in the game. Latest in this line are the concept cars that are specifically designed for this game. Such a great idea in theory, but without interiors? Screw that.
Other than that, the sound, AI, lack of immersion and the sheer amount of cars will hold it back. Updating physics and sound for 1200 cars is such a monsterous task, its unreal. You need at least 10 sound samples per car to create a good sound experience. Imagine the amount of labor and the sheer size that a potential update for all 1200 cars would have. Thefor I cant imagine PD really working on a sound update for the PS3 via a patch. For physics, its the same. There is no way in the world that they can craft individual physics for each car on par with PC simulators, which meticulously recreate so many vehicle aspects and finetune every car for months.
It can still be a good game, if it doesnt repeat too many other mistakes that GT5 had, but not great.
Other than that, the sound, AI, lack of immersion and the sheer amount of cars will hold it back. Updating physics and sound for 1200 cars is such a monsterous task, its unreal. You need at least 10 sound samples per car to create a good sound experience. Imagine the amount of labor and the sheer size that a potential update for all 1200 cars would have. Thefor I cant imagine PD really working on a sound update for the PS3 via a patch. For physics, its the same. There is no way in the world that they can craft individual physics for each car on par with PC simulators, which meticulously recreate so many vehicle aspects and finetune every car for months.
It can still be a good game, if it doesnt repeat too many other mistakes that GT5 had, but not great.
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- Sweden
Basically what @FLX1981 said. I believe that it'll be a good game, a clear improvment over GT5 but still years behind the competition in several areas. There's no question about it. Physics (while much improved, torque steer is still not present? among other things), subpar sounds, AI and an inconsistent level of quality will keep it from becoming a great game, once again.
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- NewAesthetic
- SlipZtrEm
@FLX1981 physics aren't worked on in that way, though; they build a physics engine, and the engine is fed various parameters from the cars themselves. This requires an in-depth look at each car for all its physical measurements, aerodynamic properties, performance figures of the drivetrain, etc etc, but all of the cars in the game run on the same physics engine.
The question of course is in what way the physics engine is being upgraded versus GT5, specifically the tire and suspension models. Some of us already felt like Standards behaved a bit... strangely, in GT5, and the general consensus is that Premiums were built with a much larger amount of variables for the physics engine to interpret than the Standards enjoyed in GT4, so they could've possibly had general numbers inserted. With GT6, let's say tire sizes actually matter. PD would then have to hunt down the stock tire dimensions of all the cars in the game (to say nothing about what aftermarket tires might mean), and they very well might use some "placeholder" values for cars that are similar to each other (the masses of FD RX-7's, for instance).
The question of course is in what way the physics engine is being upgraded versus GT5, specifically the tire and suspension models. Some of us already felt like Standards behaved a bit... strangely, in GT5, and the general consensus is that Premiums were built with a much larger amount of variables for the physics engine to interpret than the Standards enjoyed in GT4, so they could've possibly had general numbers inserted. With GT6, let's say tire sizes actually matter. PD would then have to hunt down the stock tire dimensions of all the cars in the game (to say nothing about what aftermarket tires might mean), and they very well might use some "placeholder" values for cars that are similar to each other (the masses of FD RX-7's, for instance).
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- Conza_No1
Amazing that 30% don't think so at this point, I think also the basis of the question should ask whether or not people thought GT5 was or not.
I think it will, so long as the driving dynamics aren't stuffed with, whilst adding more cars and tracks both on day one and in the future with real DLC
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- Johnnypenso
@Conza I'm surprised that it's only 30% and not higher. Most people play the game offline and at this point, we have no idea what kind of career mode or AI we are going to get. How can you possibly think a game is going to be great when you have no idea what the critical parts are going to be like?
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- NewAesthetic
- SlipZtrEm
That number looks about right; people who didn't enjoy GT5 and aren't planning on even buying GT6 probably don't visit this section much (you'd be surprised how many GTPlanet members that encompasses). You're then left with those who were always planning on buying it, and those who are still considering it in varying degrees. On GTP, 30% really seems about right, to me.
As for the entire GT5 purchasing population - I'm not too sure. It's something I've said a few times now, but there's really a lot of strange new variables present with GT6's launch that haven't ever been in the formula for previous releases. And as others have hinted at in increasing frequency the past month; we know much less about this title than we ever have about any GT sequel.
As for the entire GT5 purchasing population - I'm not too sure. It's something I've said a few times now, but there's really a lot of strange new variables present with GT6's launch that haven't ever been in the formula for previous releases. And as others have hinted at in increasing frequency the past month; we know much less about this title than we ever have about any GT sequel.
- 8,723
I agree in principle, but how do you reconcile that some players like the chase view?
I think, in an ideal world, we'd get an option in the menus to enable or disable certain viewpoints in the cycle. Or maybe just toggle between roof and bonnet in that cycle to go with the other three views; maybe the same for cockpit and bumper, although the Standard black-frames might make that annoying.
Something's got to give, I suppose, since a five view cycle is probably "too much".
True but I think liking the chase view simply has to do with people liking to see the whole car they're controlling. I just can't personally see why anyone would want roof cam over bonnet cam, does anyone really want or need the high view, as if they're laid on the roof?
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- magicayrton
That's if we get a chance to buy every car available in the game from day 1 it wil be.
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- DBeav12
I voted no. I will probably end up buying GT6, but I don't think it will be that great. I love the Gran Turismo series, but they've already said that GT6 is not even gonna be finished when it's released (standard cars and makeshift engine sounds). Seems like a just GT5 disc with better graphics to me. GT5 was never completely finished... Now that I think about it, I might wait until GT6 is actually finished to buy it (or in reality not buy it at all because it probably won't ever be finished).
I'd like to see some legit competition for Gran Turismo so they actually finish the games before selling them. There really isn't any competition at the moment. Basically, they can just not finish a game and expect it to sell because there is no competition.
I'd like to see some legit competition for Gran Turismo so they actually finish the games before selling them. There really isn't any competition at the moment. Basically, they can just not finish a game and expect it to sell because there is no competition.
JacoJa
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A very hesitant 'yes' vote from me. I really did lose a lot of faith in Polyphony after GT5. But I guess now that they've passed the difficult development stage, an additional three years of work on GT5 is going to do wonders. If the jump between GT5 and GT6 is similar to what we saw between GT1-2 & GT3-4, I know GT6 will be amazing.
I'm going to buy it and enjoy it, regardless.
I'm going to buy it and enjoy it, regardless.
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- Conza_No1
@Johnnypenso I think you're underestimating the likliness of GT6 to GT5, I'm of the mind that GT6 - will be GT5.5, more cars, tweaked physics engine, suspension, ect, and some more tracks, I mean GT5 was pushing the outer limit of the PS3 as it was, they can't so to much to improve upon what the game is other than content.
So I think its a forgone conclusion, as I said before, "If GT5 = 'Great Game', Then GT6 - 'Great Game', Else GT6 ≠ 'Great Game'."
I don't see why anyone would believe GT6 would be a completely new game, there's little evidence to suggest that other than a pathetic demo that was released for the GT Academy (I really hope the cars don't all drive like the Leaf or 370Z did, ridiculously unrealistic body roll ect).
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- yzfmike
- yzfmike
I think GT6 will be better and so it will be the cream of the crop. PD says they have more data gathered and have been reading fan sites, and getting move of what we want. I am hoping to be floored by GT6 just like I was in GT5 when I started it up.
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- Johnnypenso
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- france
It is already, conccurents does not exist on PS3 (except GT5 itself) or did you mean this wasn't the case for GT5 ?
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- Chameleon9000
Im hoping that, however unlikely, the game will have allot more stuff than first let on! i agree that sony seems to be quiet on the gt series at the moment, but im hoping they plan to slap everyone on the face and say 'HAH U JUST GOT JUKED', and then the game will be amazing and everyone will be like "i knew i should have belived in sony!" Not a likely scenario, but it would be great if it happened!
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- Johnnypenso
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- InFiNiTe_MeDuLa
I'm hoping GT6 will be a better (Finished) game over GT5, but i'm expecting the series next best evolution, will be GT7 on PS4 (No surprise there, just call me captain obvious ). Kaz and PD have their work cut out for them, as the competition is right in the rearview mirror, ready to overtake at the slightest continuation of missteps.
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