[POLL] United States Presidential Elections 2016

[GTPorsche]

Protesters drive Bernie Sanders from one Seattle stage, and 15,000 turn up at the next one!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...t-disrupted-by-black-lives-matter-protesters/

Oddly, both the firmly socialist Sanders and the shifty chameleon Trump say they are for a single payer health care system, although sometimes I think Trump will say just about anything in order to get attention.

Sanders fought against segregation during the Civil Rights movement, and actually cares about minorities in this country and this is how he gets treated.

 

[Swagger897]

Sanders fought against segregation during the Civil Rights movement, and actually cares about minorities in this country and this is how he gets treated.

Yeah, that really pisses me off..

But I was waiting for something to happen yesterday knowing it was the year mark.
"To be held accountable for his actions", that part got me. For what?

 

[GTPorsche]

They just see him as a rich, old, white male. If they actually did their research on him, they wouldn't be doing that.

 

[Dotini]

This morning CNN reported its poll taken after the Republican debate. Trump increased his lead to 23% over new 2nd place Ted Cruz at 13%. Both Bush and Walker have sunk to mid-pack.

 

[Joey D]

And on top of that, how much damage can he actually do if even the Republican senate members will be critical of his ideas?

The president still has control over the military forces with or without Congress approval, so in theory they can do some damage on an international level even if Congress is critical of their ideas.

I don't think you'll see Trump get the nomination and even if he does, I don't think swing voters will vote for him. I think you'll see someone more moderate win the election since I have a feeling many Americans are fed up with partisan politics and extreme leanings one way or another.

 

[Swagger897]

Yeah, he is definitely one of, if not the, top pick for me. More of his previous history that has been underwritten by the more populous group of republican contenders really does not come out and give him too strong of a basis. People won't do their research and be just as ignorant as the idiots are. If someone were to give him a good thirty minute rundown on everything he has done in the past that were the correct decisions to make, he would be so far in front I don't believe anyone could beat him, aside from dem's voting for Hilary 'just cuz'.

This morning CNN reported its poll taken after the Republican debate. Trump increased his lead to 23% over new 2nd place Ted Cruz at 13%. Both Bush and Walker have sunk to mid-pack.

How can Ted still be running? He's from Calgary. I don't understand why Rand hasn't gone off on him yet.

 

[Joey D]

How can Ted still be running? He's from Calgary. I don't understand why Rand hasn't gone off on him yet.

I thought all you had to be was a "natural born citizen", which I believe Cruz is since his mother was an American citizen.

 

[GTPorsche]

Yes, being born to American parents, no matter where you are in the world, makes you an American citizen. It's how McCain is also eligible, though he's not running this time, considering he was born in Panama.

 

[Swagger897]

Yes, but that is undefined, and could be taken both ways.

Would you view someone who was from Mexico come to America with legal citizenship, have a kid, only to take him back to Mexico, no matter how long a stay and to not return, still a citizen?

 

[Joey D]

The Constitution doesn't say they have to be born on US soil though, just that they have to be a natural born citizen. I believe the most accepted definition of natural born citizen means that you were born a US citizen and not that you had to be naturalized.

 

[Swagger897]

The Constitution doesn't say they have to be born on US soil though,

Still, it doesn't say the opposite..

 

[Joey D]

Still, it doesn't say the opposite..

Correct, but if we are going to base laws in the country off the Constitution then we have to go with how it was written.

 

[Swagger897]

Correct, but if we are going to base laws in the country off the Constitution then we have to go with how it was written.

We should never have stopped basing laws via the piece of paper that controls how the government is run in the first place.

In my opinion, I don't view him as one of us in "we the people".

 

[Omnis]

I wouldn't call Trump a fascist. That's being unfair to fascists. No, Trump is a Trumpist (and I suppose his followers are Trumpets); the only thing Donald Trump believes in is Donald Trump. The only policy Trump has is whatever is good for Trump.

If fascism (which is surprisingly hard to define; thank you, internet, for over-using it and using it out of context) is the boot on the government on the thoat of the people, then Trumpism is the boot of Trump on the throat of the government, which has its boot on the throat of the people.

Your definition fails. That's not what fascism is. Rather, that is what fascism must become to maintain itself as an economic system.

Donald Trump is the perfect example of a modern fascist, complete with all the rhetoric and all the blowhard-ness. His vision of America as a monolithic business that has to "win" and do whatever it takes to not "lose" is the very essence of economic fascism.

Bernie Sanders is a chump. He got bullied by those two morons. Literally shouted off his own stage. What an ass. He wants to be the leader of the country and can't even stand up to a pack of lunatics.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Still, it doesn't say the opposite..

It doesn't have to, it already says enough to explain itself. Constitutional interpretation inherits British legal definition, the language in which it is written. The British interpretation of "natural born" as "in liege to" is reinforced and embodied in US law in the Naturalization acts of 1790 and 1795.

 

[GTPorsche]

Your definition fails. That's not what fascism is. Rather, that is what fascism must become to maintain itself as an economic system.

Donald Trump is the perfect example of a modern fascist, complete with all the rhetoric and all the blowhard-ness. His vision of America as a monolithic business that has to "win" and do whatever it takes to not "lose" is the very essence of economic fascism.

Bernie Sanders is a chump. He got bullied by those two morons. Literally shouted off his own stage. What an ass. He wants to be the leader of the country and can't even stand up to a pack of lunatics.

Event security is the problem since they let them get onto the stage to begin with.

 

[Omnis]

Bernie Sanders's vision for America played out right in front of him. Eaten by democracy.

 

[mister dog]

I hope Trump will have to give an outdoors speech soon, and it will be very windy

 

[Dotini]

Bernie and Donald have some overlap in that they both appeal to working class whites.

 

[Crash]

Would you view someone who was from Mexico come to America with legal citizenship, have a kid, only to take him back to Mexico, no matter how long a stay and to not return, still a citizen?

Yes, that's how dual (or more) citizenships are often held.

Good news for you is that there is a Constitutional requirement that the person elected to the Presidency have lived in the US for at least 14 years.

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I believe the whole "natural-born citizen" part should be amended anyways. I don't see a good reason why someone who was naturalized, and have lived in and been a citizen of the US for 15, 20, 30, 40, or even more years in the US, and is an American by any other definition, can't be elected to be the President of the United States.

 

[Omnis]

I believe the whole "natural-born citizen" part should be amended anyways. I don't see a good reason why someone who was naturalized, and have lived in and been a citizen of the US for 15, 20, 30, 40, or even more years in the US, and is an American by any other definition, can't be elected to be the President of the United States.

Because then Rupert Murdoch could run for President.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Good news for you is that there is a Constitutional requirement that the person elected to the Presidency have lived in the US for at least 14 years.

Not directly before being President though, as has been proven.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Trump tries to dig his way out of the hole he dug himself into in thr first place, arguing that if you read his comments to be able menstruation, you're a deviant:

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-...onds-to-criticism-over-sexist-remarks/6684366

 

[Dennisch]

And yet, Trump is still comfortably leading in the polls. 24%, Jeb is at 12% and all the others at 8 or lower.

The other Republicans must be tearing their hairs out. I wonder how long it takes for them to bark up the populist tree.

 

[Tornado]

I'm not sure he's actually trying to get himself out of the hole so much as just trying to mock people who took issue with what he said.

 

[Pupik]

Someone who isn't a grandstanding, self-important idiot with twenty years of all forms of media showing just how much of a grandstanding, self-important idiot he is (even before he announced political candidacy) would be better, yes; regardless of their schooling. I mean, clearly the point was lost for why I compared him to various people with actual political experience that Fox didn't spend most of the night attacking, but his biggest contribution to American culture, his best showing of how he knows how to mediate matters of import between world powers, was a recently cancelled reality show where he presided over Meat Loaf threatening to beat up Gary Busey for allegedly stealing arts and crafts supplies. Whose most important political achievement to date is claiming that he personally was the one who got Obama to release a birth certificate to prove that Obama was actually eligible to become President of the United States (and that's why Trump decided not to run against him in 2012). Whose best understanding of first amendment rights, in response to that last thing no less, led to him suing Bill Maher for $5 million dollars for joking about Trump's own birth history. Whose extensive experience in international relations caused him to claim as one of his first campaign platforms that Mexico, a country that is a political ally and a major industrial partner, has an actual policy to send rapists and criminals to the United States so they don't have to deal with them that he will put a stop to. And you're saying it's unfair that Fox spent more time going after him and trying to trip him up than they did asking other candidates questions?



For crying out loud, what lens of America are you defending where you're asserting that "Trump 2016" needs to be taken seriously by political commentators during an actual political debate where he deflects hilariously sexist comments by claiming he only really meant them in response to one person? We all hate Rosie O'Donnell, but that doesn't really make it a Presidential platform. What Devil's Advocate do you think you're playing for where you're arguing that Fox News was too hard on Donald Trump when it came to asking him why he should be President of the United States? Who cares how much he appeals to people as being real and not afraid to provoke controversy and not afraid of the PC police when he is still Donald 🤬 Trump?

This is not Internet Gold. It's Astatine.

 

[GTPorsche]

Black Lives Matter movement has asked that those women that interrupted Bernie Sanders apologize to him.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/08...ivists-publicly-apologize-bernie-sanders.html

 

[prisonermonkeys]

If Trump has no policy, at least he can't be accused of breaking election promises:

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-12/donald-trump-claims-to-be-leading-everywhere/6691568

 

[Omnis]

Rand Paul just lost the bud light bro truck crowd.

 

[Dotini]

It seems clear enough that Hillary Clinton is being investigated by the DOJ in re her storage of classified material on her personal computer server.

I am convinced this is the way President Obama wants it, and that criminal charges are pending.

Accordingly, I am able to rationally predict Joe Biden at the top the Democrat ticket, together with Elizabeth Warren for VP.