[POLL] United States Presidential Elections 2016

The party nominees are named. Now who do you support?


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I loved Trump's line about Rosie O'Donnell. That made me lol. Everything else was complete garbage.

I thought Rand Paul had a pretty bad night. He needs bigger balls. Whoever is managing him is doing a terrible job. His campaign is a piece of crap run by amateurs. He has the right message but needs to have more cojones about himself and to be able to be more demonstrably right. We know he's probably the best guy, but a dumb audience wouldn't.

Bush had the best night. Everyone else is canned and rehearsed. Empty suits.

They need to replace Carson with Fiorina. Chris Christie needs to take a knee. Every time he gets fired up with the fearmongering and the ********, it probably starts smelling like bread on stage.

edit: Take this an example of what I mean when I talk about balls.

http://www.nytimes.com/live/republi...zes-on-opportunties-to-speak/?smid=tw-nytimes

Carson spoke for a longer period of time than Paul. Come on, now.
 
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I thought Carson did a good job, but he could have done a lot better. The problem is that he can't get information out as quickly as the others can. Talking slowly seems to be the issue. This will hurt him in later primary debates and if he somehow gets into the presidential debates.

Kristie and Paul were getting on my nerves with their one-liner shots at each other and acting like children.

Trump got put on the spot with his bankrupt companies and how he would budget our country. His comment towards O'Donnel was funny but I think it will harm him with the women vote. His attitude towards Kelly won't do him any favors either.
 
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I thought Christie's Social Security "solution" made sense but then again I was drunk at a bar. I mean, SS is ****ed either way and the only way out is to make it hard on people who didn't plan on not using it. Getting out of a crappy system over 25 whopping years sounds ridiculous but that's how deep a hole we've dug for ourselves.
 
Carson is a bozo. He has no business being on that stage. The only thing we got out of him is that he believes in the tithe and he can separate siamese twins. Wow.

I would rather have him in the white house than half the sociopaths on the stage. But, honestly, what's an honorable man like him doing there?
 
Trump's threat to go Independent if he doesn't get the GOP nomination is pretty much holding the party hostage at this point. Assuming the man can maintain his... Well, I don't really know, with the base - he carries far more sway in the party than I ever thought he would. Think Perot in '92, and you're pretty much handing a potential win to the Democrats, no matter who gets the nomination.

A lot of my liberal friends came out of it with continued respect for Rand Paul, and a lot of them mentioned John Kasich. I'd personally put Kasich in the same, "Hey that guy's not too bad," group that my governor, Rick Snyder is in. A shame that a pragmatic choice like him has about a 0% chance of being elected at this point.

So, another one next Tuesday at Bennigan's, right? I heard Trump has a gift card he needs to spend...
 
My favorite now is probably Ted Cruz. As a moderate myself I didn't like him as much prior but after his speech a few days ago in congress and now today on how the republicans have done nothing while in control. My opinion on him has dramatically changed. I just hope that if he wins, he keeps those promises.
 
I'm surprised that Fox is asking so many gotcha questions to the candidates and not a bunch of soft balls.
It's because they know that they someone who can go head-to-head with Hilary Clinton. If a candidate came out of the debate looking strong and the public believed that it was only down to the moderators letting one past the keeper, their credibility would tank as soon as they squared off with Clinton in an arena outside the network's ability to control. And there's so many candidates that they had to run two debates, the main event and the undercard. The best way to get a firm footing against Clinton would be to have one candidate stand out from the rest on big policy issues.
 
And Trump already pretty much confirmed that if he doesn't get the Republicans vote, he'll run as an independent.

Get ready for the Hilldog, America!*









*Unless Biden steals it from under her nose, of course.
 
I'm not new to politics, pal. I know he won't keep his promises but that doesn't mean you can hope :rolleyes:.

You're reading too much into some light sarcasm.

Q: If you could have a previous President, any previous President Of The United States, in the White House today who would it be and why?
 
On first inspection, it would appear Trump won the "debate", handling the toughest questions in stride.
Bush and Walker didn't seem to help themselves, but Kasich did, so the field tightens up behind Trump for the moment, with Fiorina advancing from the 7 dwarves. At least that is the media view as I see it. How the voters will react remains to be seen in new polls.
 
You're reading too much into some light sarcasm.

Q: If you could have a previous President, any previous President Of The United States, in the White House today who would it be and why?
Sorry, my sarcasm detector is in the maintenance shop today.

To answer your question, either Reagan or FDR because of their leadership (military and diplomatic) abilities and how they were able to recover the country during their times of office.
 
Q: If you could have a previous President, any previous President Of The United States, in the White House today who would it be and why?

My choice is unquestionably John Tyler. To my knowledge, he is the ONLY American president to go out of his way to defy his party, the congress and the people in their eagerness to go to war (Mexico, in this case).

Coincidentally, I was born in Tyler, Texas, named after the president sometimes dismissed as an accident and the very worst of the presidents, according to mainstream historians.
 
You're reading too much into some light sarcasm.

Q: If you could have a previous President, any previous President Of The United States, in the White House today who would it be and why?

Calvin Coolidge.
 
George Washington.

He didn't want the job, making him the only person I can think of qualified for it.

His cabinet weren't yes men. He appointed people with differing opinions. Adams and Jefferson's disagreements are part of our country's history and he had them both in the office with him on decisions. He wanted to hear both sides, not just a more publicly palatable version of his own ideas.

And he stepped down on his own when he didn't have to. He could have been king and chose to be a term-limited, elected official instead.
 
LBJ.... if he had more time a lot of good things would've been done.

To answer your question, either Reagan or FDR because of their leadership (military and diplomatic) abilities and how they were able to recover the country during their times of office.
SO the best ones are the ones that caused the most debt to the US?

On first inspection, it would appear Trump won the "debate", handling the toughest questions in stride.
Bush and Walker didn't seem to help themselves, but Kasich did, so the field tightens up behind Trump for the moment, with Fiorina advancing from the 7 dwarves. At least that is the media view as I see it. How the voters will react remains to be seen in new polls.
Yeah, trump was getting more direct questions than any of them. Sort of unfair with what he's been touting but that's him apparently. The entire women question was a joke though.
 
Back to reality.

Rand Paul came across as a wounded animal. Hissing away with little confidence.
 
Back to reality.

Rand Paul came across as a wounded animal.
He is. A lot of bad press lately. He had to play it safe. His back and forth with Christie was the only issue he could afford to get loud on, and I wonder if he didn't ruin any bump it gave him by eye-rolling when Christie mentioned 9/11 victims. I think that is up to viewer opinion. Either you agree that the constant 9/11 story is wearing thin 14 years later, or you feel it was disrespectful.



To be honest though, having Jesse Benton indicted on federal charges is the best thing to happen to Rand Paul, if he survives the negative press. If only Benton had been gone before he was working for Ron Paul.
 
SO the best ones are the ones that caused the most debt to the US?
The debt increase under both Bush 43 and Obama combined are far higher than the combined debt increase in 2015 dollars from Reagan and FDR. (Around 10 trillion).

Here is the debt ceiling increase up to 2011, why is that ceiling now above 17 trillion?
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FDR turned this country around with his spending while drastically increasing our military size and Reagan helped end a recession along with improving our military.

Bush 43 did not do a single good thing for this country and Obama has not done much for improvements.
 
I've got to say Trumps got my vote. I'm loving everything about his campaign so far. This is what we need.
 
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