[POLL] United States Presidential Elections 2016

[TenEightyOne]

Posted this in the America thread before I remembered that this one existed;

Hillary "Worse Liar Than My Husband Clinton" has confirmed, with no surprises, that she's going to run for the boss-job.

Let's hope that the run from the helicopter is safer than it was last time

I think HC will do very well in the election for the same minority reasons that Obama arguably did... but in my opinion she's a far worse (and much less credible) candidate.

 

[savage388]

No offense, but I always find it funny to hear Americans (I live in a border town) and American media talking about right wing or left wing extremists when both of your parties are just right and just left of centre. I'm not sure anyone knows what the word "extremist" or "far left/far right" even means in the U.S. anymore. The words are so overused they've become meaningless.

On another note, it looks like we can look forward to some unbiased media coverage for the upcoming election campaign. This is a picture of some of the attendees to a recent "off the record" cocktail party thrown by Hillary's campaign staffers:

/sarcasm

https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/587274340938420224/photo/1

I suppose then that's the irony in the whole system from an outsiders point of view, two parties with only slightly different views that cannot for the sake of anything compromise.

 

[Liquid]

Isn't Ted Cruz the bloke who said that net neutrality is "Obamacare for the internet"?

Let's go ahead and not elect people like that.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

It's a shame how far the U.S has tumbled downhill in the past few decades through dirty politics and media

Clinton's announcement naturally got press attention down here, and with it, we saw some of the counter-media that the Republicans have put out. I was really taken aback at the nature of some of it - if any of our political parties tried to produce ads like that, they would be rejected because they would be illegal. I don't know what the Democrats produced - Cruz's announcement got some attention, but most of our commentators have presented him as an outside chance while Clinton is a heavy-hitter - but the Republicans really went for the jugular. I remember when Obama ran for office and the Republicans ran an ad featuring an image of the Grim Reaper superimposed over his face; that was pretty extreme.

 

[FoolKiller]

Isn't Ted Cruz the bloke who said that net neutrality is "Obamacare for the internet"?

Let's go ahead and not elect people like that.

While his comparison is poor at best, many of us firmly believe that net neutrality is a mistake and is just opening the door to regulatory powers over the Internet.

 

[DK]

Imagine if net neutrality was done away with about 10 years ago, and we'd probably have no YouTube. If it was done away with 15 years ago, we'd probably have no Google.

Net neutrality is vital for fostering innovation on the Internet - who would dare innovate if the ISPs can turn the Internet into a protection racket?

 

[BradTC12]

If Clinton gets elected I will buy me a one way ticket to Canada for the next 4-8 years.

 

[TenEightyOne]

If Clinton gets elected I will buy me a one way ticket to Canada for the next 4-8 years.

Yeah yeah, plenty of people say this before any big election but you never go

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Yeah yeah, plenty of people say this before any big election but you never go

Statements like these should come with an addendum - you can only go if you voted. That's the beauty of the Westminster system, especially here, where you must vote. You can't do nothing and then complain.

 

[Sanji Himura]

Senator Marco Rubio officially announced his candidacy this morning.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Imagine if net neutrality was done away with about 10 years ago, and we'd probably have no YouTube. If it was done away with 15 years ago, we'd probably have no Google.

Net neutrality is vital for fostering innovation on the Internet - who would dare innovate if the ISPs can turn the Internet into a protection racket?

Net neutrality didn't exist when either YT or Google were created. Now what? Innovation continues regardless of the circumstances.

 

[DK]

Net neutrality didn't exist when either YT or Google were created. Now what? Innovation continues regardless of the circumstances.

That's funny, I heard one shrill anti-net neutrality argument saying that net neutrality would stifle innovation.

 

[FoolKiller]

Imagine if net neutrality was done away with about 10 years ago, and we'd probably have no YouTube. If it was done away with 15 years ago, we'd probably have no Google.

That's funny, I heard one shrill anti-net neutrality argument saying that net neutrality would stifle innovation.

There was no "net neutrality" 10 or 15 years ago. They just attempted their second try at passing net neutrality in the US. It hasn't gone into effect yet.

As of now, it still does not exist in practice in the US, so if you fear what would happen without net neutrality, you are looking at it.

Net neutrality is vital for fostering innovation on the Internet - who would dare innovate if the ISPs can turn the Internet into a protection racket?

Google, You Tube, Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, Overstock, Facebook, MySpace, Reddit, Vimeo, Tsu, Flickr, Imageshack, GTPlanet, and pretty much everyone on the Internet now.

Why would an ISP innovate if their systems are held hostage by the government? They have to get permission to raise any rates for other businesses. The decision on whether higher fees will be necessary to develop a new technology and/or improve the network will be determined by a government panel who have about as much expertise in the field as a monkey.

Add in that the current version getting ready to pass gives the government fee control on individual content providers means that they could at any time decide they don't like certain types of material on the Internet (Politicians have already wanted to shut blogs down and hold them legally liable because they aren't "real" press) and can require a different fee, or an added tax on their fees, created an essential ban. What happens when a Democratically led Congress or FCC decides they don't like The Drudge Report? How long before they get enough complaints about content issues to decide to create a sin tax on adult Web sites?

Or what happens when they get enough support to change the terms of the current net neutrality proposal to allow them to blatantly censor content the way they do TV and radio?

 

[DK]

Where's the bit in the FCC's new regulations that give them power to shut down websites? OK, my source may be this Cracked article (and therefore NSFW), but porn producers actually came out in favour of net neutrality - I'd hazard a guess that if they feared that they would get shut down, they'd probably voice their concerns. Plus, I'm far from convinced that the FCC would get away with controlling online content without a massive backlash.

The FCC's net neutrality rules ban ISPs from doing three things: charging content providers for prioritisation, throttling apps or services, or blocking legal content - that includes porn.

What happens when a Democratically led Congress or FCC decides they don't like The Drudge Report? How long before they get enough complaints about content issues to decide to create a sin tax on adult Web sites?

Or what happens when they get enough support to change the terms of the current net neutrality proposal to allow them to blatantly censor content the way they do TV and radio?

And what if the TimeWarner/Comcast merger goes ahead and they decide they don't like discussion forums like Reddit because its users complain too much about their service? Comcast part-owns Hulu - what if they decide they don't like the competition offered by Netflix, YouTube, Crunchyroll or HBO GO and decide to hold them hostage?

 

[squadops]

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/net-neutrality-issue.297632/

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Senator Marco Rubio officially announced his candidacy this morning.

And Obama has given him a nugget to work with straight away - he wants to take Cuba off the list of states supporting terrorism as part of the resumption of diplomatic relations between the two countries.

 

[Dennisch]

Chris Christie vows to 'crack down' on marijuana as president

Trying to lose the race before he starts it?

 

[DK]

I suppose the demographic parodied by the likes of "@ConcernedMom420" still outweigh open marijuana users.

 

[F1jocker12]

Some will say is all about the money...

Hillary Rodham Clinton’s brother, Tony Rodham, sat on the board of a self-described mining company that in 2012 received one of only two “gold exploitation permits” from the Haitian government—the first issued in over 50 years.

The Rodham gold mine revelation is just one of dozens featured in a forthcoming bombshell investigative book by three-time New York Times bestselling author Peter Schweizer, according to a Thursday statement from publishing giant HarperCollins. The publisher says the book, Clinton Cash: The Untold Story of How and Why Foreign Governments and Businesses Helped Make Bill and Hillary Rich, is the culmination of an exhaustive one-year deep dive investigation into the nexus between the Clintons’ $100+ million personal wealth, the Clinton Foundation, and the decisions Hillary made as Secretary of State that benefited foreign donors, governments, and companies.

GOLD MINE: HILLARY CLINTON’S BROTHER GRANTED SUPER-RARE MINING PERMIT FROM HAITI AFTER STATE DEPT. SENT COUNTRY BILLIONS
and
http://vcsmining.com/gold-mining-permit-award.html

 

[Johnnypenso]

As hinted above, there is a book coming out May 5th, that apparently will show, "“We will see a pattern of financial transactions involving the Clintons that occurred contemporaneous with favorable U.S. policy decisions benefiting those providing the funds,” Mr. Schweizer writes. Whether it affects anything or not remains to be seen, the lefties are already implementing damage control, calling it real vitriol and downplaying it's significance, before the book is even released.

Book on Amazon

 

[F1jocker12]

Always remember what you are voting for.
I'm actually a little impressed with this chick and her strong message.


http://qz.com/385462/rihannas-american-oxygen-video-is-a-powerful-statement-on-immigration/

 

[Sanji Himura]

Bernie Sanders, the lone independent in the Senate, officially announced his candidacy this week. He will run as a Democrat.

 

[Touring Mars]

The words hell, chance and snowballs spring to mind, but not necessarily in that order.

 

[Sanji Himura]

First GTP Poll is now up. I have chosen to host this on a third party site because of the amount of analyzing tools that the site in question has available for me to analyze the poll. Keep in mind that the results of the poll will be analyzed by the 8th at 10am Eastern time and the poll will close approximately 12 hours before hand.

https://survey.zohopublic.com/zs/L5CNpb

Happy voting!

 

[F1jocker12]

Bernie Sanders, the lone independent in the Senate, officially announced his candidacy this week. He will run as a Democrat.

Interesting piece on info..... comparison between Hillary and Bernie... Where are those money coming from?

 

[Sanji Himura]

That really doesn't tell the whole story though. Both sides are strongly financed with a lot of illegal money. Hillary is financing her campaign through the Clinton Foundation, which has a record of receiving foreign money through shell companies. Mr. Sander's crime is money laundering for George Soros, who just got hit with a $7 billion tax bill.

To explain Soros' scheme, it is like a massive shell game. His money is funneled through shell charities and even unions just so that he has a low tax bill.

Eventually, someone in the democrat side will get the backing of GE (General Electric), which pays $0 in income tax.

 

[F1jocker12]

That really doesn't tell the whole story though. Both sides are strongly financed with a lot of illegal money. Hillary is financing her campaign through the Clinton Foundation, which has a record of receiving foreign money through shell companies. Mr. Sander's crime is money laundering for George Soros, who just got hit with a $7 billion tax bill.

To explain Soros' scheme, it is like a massive shell game. His money is funneled through shell charities and even unions just so that he has a low tax bill.

Eventually, someone in the democrat side will get the backing of GE (General Electric), which pays $0 in income tax.

Now we are moving in a different dimension here... Do you have any proof for what you are saying, or is just speculation?

 

[FoolKiller]

Eventually, someone in the democrat side will get the backing of GE (General Electric), which pays $0 in income tax.

By participating in every initiative that offers tax credits and then sweetening the pot on government contract bids by asking for a tax credit in place of money.

 

[Sanji Himura]

Now we are moving in a different dimension here... Do you have any proof for what you are saying, or is just speculation?

None that is being reported by main stream media. Van Jones, if you want some similar comparison, had to resign his gig at the Obama Administration with similar reporting (in other words, the true journalists dug up Van Jones in his own words, but even then, the MSM wouldn't report on it until AFTER he resigned.)

I take that back. Here is a lovely article from Bloomberg that describes how Soros tax dodges:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-04-30/george-soros-s-tax-bill?cmpid=BBD043015

 

[F1jocker12]

None that is being reported by main stream media. Van Jones, if you want some similar comparison, had to resign his gig at the Obama Administration with similar reporting (in other words, the true journalists dug up Van Jones in his own words, but even then, the MSM wouldn't report on it until AFTER he resigned.)

I take that back. Here is a lovely article from Bloomberg that describes how Soros tax dodges:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-04-30/george-soros-s-tax-bill?cmpid=BBD043015

And how is Sanders laundering Soros's money?